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She had a plan: Kamala Harris (Original Post) applegrove Jan 29 OP
Sigh 💙 littlemissmartypants Jan 29 #1
"Dems have no message, no economic plans, ignore the working class, we have no idea who they are," betsuni Jan 29 #2
I hope Kamala runs again. After the 2024 election, I think she knows a thing or two. thought crime Jan 30 #3
Dems have never re-run someone who lost POTUS/VP in my lifetime AZJonnie Jan 30 #21
If you don't see it happening, it won't. thought crime Jan 30 #24
Fair warning, my response below is very graphic AZJonnie Jan 30 #26
How much do you care that the Democrats run their very best leaders? thought crime Jan 31 #31
No plan for armed masked goons executing American citizens in the street? IronLionZion Jan 30 #4
Concepts of a plan won out over an actual plan.... Except, that's not actually true.... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 30 #5
REPUBLICANS ARE PEDOPHILES! Here's the LIST!----- Jack Valentino Jan 30 #7
I hear what you're saying but I thought Kamala's campaign *was* what you're talking about wanting to see AZJonnie Jan 30 #22
It wasn't all racism. Misogyny played its part. flashman13 Jan 30 #6
A VERY large part. This country is so far behind the other advanced countries niyad Jan 30 #15
We are not the least bit advanced. We are just a third world country with an outsized military. flashman13 Jan 30 #27
A most excellent point. Or, as George Carlin said, an oil company niyad Jan 30 #28
Yes - I had forgotten about that. Carlin had a way of getting to the heart of the issue. flashman13 Jan 30 #29
It was Vlad. czarjak Jan 30 #19
Post removed Post removed Jan 30 #8
Hello. johnp3907 Jan 30 #9
What flavour pizza do you like? niyad Jan 30 #10
I have no clue why, but she loves TombStone pizza Brother Buzz Jan 30 #13
Given how many times as one has been delivered, certainly true! niyad Jan 30 #16
Well I got a few words in below to go Cha Jan 30 #17
chant and be happy sheshe2 Jan 30 #20
Post removed Post removed Jan 31 #33
You're back! sheshe2 Jan 31 #35
Not for long! FSogol Jan 31 #36
I don't drink or smoke sarisataka Jan 31 #37
She's not fussy!! GP6971 Jan 31 #34
Hasta la vista, baby! Swede Jan 30 #11
Fuck That Nazi PEDO in the WH Cha Jan 30 #14
Yes, and We Would Still Cha Jan 30 #12
That, and her plans just weren't good enough for some that claim to be progressive. W_HAMILTON Jan 30 #18
Her plans were good enough for me. Her candidacy was good enough for me. mucholderthandirt Jan 31 #38
"I want to keep people safe and see them thrive. For me, it's always been about that work." betsuni Jan 30 #23
Yes BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 30 #25
Someday, we'll elect a woman. Hope I live to see it. Joinfortmill Jan 30 #30
Also money. People vote with their wallets every fucking time. Initech Jan 31 #32
as i like to say when i mock the dumbass people that voted for drumpf...... Takket Jan 31 #39

betsuni

(29,080 posts)
2. "Dems have no message, no economic plans, ignore the working class, we have no idea who they are,"
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 11:54 PM
Jan 29

people insist as they firmly cover their eyes and ears and turn off their brains, mouths open and flapping.

thought crime

(1,576 posts)
3. I hope Kamala runs again. After the 2024 election, I think she knows a thing or two.
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 12:17 AM
Jan 30

Kamala Harris is the only candidate who has obliterated Trump in a debate. She proved that she has excellent qualifications for President and a great grasp of issues. Also very important; she most effectively bridges the divides in the Democratic Coalition. I really want her to run again.

I would really look forward to watching presidential primary debates with Kamala, Gavin Newsom, Jasmine Crockett, AOC and others.

AZJonnie

(3,707 posts)
21. Dems have never re-run someone who lost POTUS/VP in my lifetime
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 02:24 AM
Jan 30

As much as I'd to have a female POTUS (her included), in 2028, I just don't see it happening.

AG, otoh, would be absolutely perfect. With her deputy, Jack Smith!!!

thought crime

(1,576 posts)
24. If you don't see it happening, it won't.
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 04:29 AM
Jan 30

Much has happened that none of us have seen in our lifetimes.

In my book, Kamala didn't lose; Joe Biden lost. I'm sorry to say it, but that was something we've never seen in our lifetimes, either; the total collapse of a major presidential campaign. And we've never seen anything like Trump in our lifetimes, and hopefully won't again.

Maybe we need to see that something we've never seen before can still be very possible. The dream ticket is to have two of our best and most effective leaders running for Pres. & VP: Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Kamala Harris; two out of the three in any combination, please. It may just be time to double-down.

thought crime

(1,576 posts)
31. How much do you care that the Democrats run their very best leaders?
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 03:18 AM
Jan 31

Leaders who can hold the informal Coalition together and turn out plenty of Democrats and Independents?

IronLionZion

(51,280 posts)
4. No plan for armed masked goons executing American citizens in the street?
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 12:19 AM
Jan 30

Converse sneaker licking doesn't have the same ring to it as boot licking.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,014 posts)
5. Concepts of a plan won out over an actual plan.... Except, that's not actually true....
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 12:24 AM
Jan 30

The Project 2025 plan was the plan hiding in plain sight that almost nobody voted for but actually won out.

In a way, it is a model for what Democrats must learn to do:
Nobody really wants to hear an actual plan--they want to fall in love with a messenger and put their trust in them. But there needs to be an actual plan behind that messenger. Except in Democrats' case it needs to be a plan to do good; not evil.

I will admit that I got frustrated hearing Democrats endlessly rattle off numbers and statistics in 2024. Given the current electorate, Harris probably would have been better served to just say, "trust me, I have a plan for that. And here is why you can trust me...."

Given that these are politicians and politics we are talking about, I'm not sure anybody believes the detailed plan is ever going to happen anyway. All they really need is a reason to feel good about their vote. Time spent laying out detailed plans based on numbers nobody cares about just takes time away from making a real connection with voters on a human level.

Jack Valentino

(5,045 posts)
7. REPUBLICANS ARE PEDOPHILES! Here's the LIST!-----
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 12:57 AM
Jan 30

I believe the winning margin in 2024 had to do with the economy---
but Democrats should NOT leave such a damaging arrow in their quiver,
and should scream it from the rooftops in such a way that cannot be ignored!


'Dirty politics'? SORRY, but we have SO MANY DIRTY REPUBLICANS!!!!


'so if you VOTE for Republicans, you are voting for criminals, terrorists, nazis
AND CHILD-RAPING PEDOPHILES, and here's PROOF with NAMES!'


I'd like to see THAT in some Democratic campaign advertisements!



AZJonnie

(3,707 posts)
22. I hear what you're saying but I thought Kamala's campaign *was* what you're talking about wanting to see
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 02:32 AM
Jan 30

She had a small handful of numbers/stats but by and large, "trust me, I have a plan for that. And here is why you can trust me...." was pretty much her vibe as I remember it

niyad

(132,483 posts)
15. A VERY large part. This country is so far behind the other advanced countries
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 01:23 AM
Jan 30

when it comes to women in political, corporate, or indeed, any real power. It is embarrassing.

flashman13

(2,407 posts)
27. We are not the least bit advanced. We are just a third world country with an outsized military.
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:09 PM
Jan 30

niyad

(132,483 posts)
28. A most excellent point. Or, as George Carlin said, an oil company
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:12 PM
Jan 30

with an army. Rather like ruzzia these days.

flashman13

(2,407 posts)
29. Yes - I had forgotten about that. Carlin had a way of getting to the heart of the issue.
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 05:43 PM
Jan 30

Response to applegrove (Original post)

sheshe2

(97,645 posts)
20. chant and be happy
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 01:37 AM
Jan 30

Lol...the username, it's a song. 🤪

Hare Krishna Mantra (1hr) - Divine Meditation Frequency - Chant And Be Happy





Response to sheshe2 (Reply #20)

W_HAMILTON

(10,336 posts)
18. That, and her plans just weren't good enough for some that claim to be progressive.
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 01:26 AM
Jan 30

They need to revisit the root word of the term and stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Tens of millions of us are in a much worse spot now than we were before or than we would have been had Kamala and other good Democrats been elected.

I fully expect MAGA Republicans to do everything they can to prevent progress, but not those that claim to be progressive.

mucholderthandirt

(1,787 posts)
38. Her plans were good enough for me. Her candidacy was good enough for me.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 08:53 PM
Jan 31

Her laugh was good enough for me. I had no problems with Harris at all, she was a good politician, a good person, and would be a damned fine president, and we should absolutely run her again. It was good enough for Hilary to try, it's good enough for Harris.

I had a reel show up on my phone today, showing Harris doing some event or other, and she was talking about all the stuff Trump would do, and she was 100% correct about all of them. Strong, smart, beautiful, kind and funny. What more do people want? Because frankly, I'm tired of the same old, same old, privileged white old man getting the nod. Let's run more to the right! We'll surely pick up those old white bigots' votes! LOL

betsuni

(29,080 posts)
23. "I want to keep people safe and see them thrive. For me, it's always been about that work."
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 02:44 AM
Jan 30

"As a prosecutor, my work was protecting vulnerable people, especially women and children, from sexual predators. As California's attorney general, I protected our state from cartels, homeowners from predatory banks, and I made the criminal justice data open ... . In the Senate, it was getting money to community banks, the most effective funders of small business. In the White House, I was able to work on so many issues that mattered to me: small business, maternal health, child poverty, climate action, infrastructure, repairing our global alliances.

"As president, there was so much more I could do. I wanted to see Gen Z given the tools they needed to become a new Greatest Generation, and I had so many ideas on how to help them. I wanted to create a secretary of culture to uplift the immense creative talent of this country. I wanted to change the way we think about our workforce, to assign value based on an individual's skill, to open up government jobs to talented people who didn't necessarily have a college degree. I wanted to increase home ownership. All these things, and so much more, all grounded in the fundamental values of dignity, fairness, and opportunity."

"107 Days"

Initech

(108,785 posts)
32. Also money. People vote with their wallets every fucking time.
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 01:49 PM
Jan 31

And the 2024 election was no different. They were sold the "big lie" about the economy by slick-looking Fox News hosts *AGAIN*. And he's literally doing everything but the job he was elected to do.

Takket

(23,717 posts)
39. as i like to say when i mock the dumbass people that voted for drumpf......
Sat Jan 31, 2026, 09:01 PM
Jan 31

"Joe Biden was so old, I just couldn't vote for Kamala Harris!"

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