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If the Dems win the Presidency in 2028 wil JD Vance certify the election? (Original Post) milestogo Jan 30 OP
Does the VP always do the certifications or only when his party controls the Senate? Callie1979 Jan 30 #1
The VP presides as president of the Senate Hassin Bin Sober Jan 30 #8
With any luck, he won't be the vice president. aeromanKC Jan 30 #2
Oh lord, WHO would Vance pick as his VP if trump's in the ground? Callie1979 Jan 31 #12
Nah Polybius Jan 31 #13
Will JD Vance certify such an election-- Jack Valentino Jan 30 #3
By then, if, if...the result in '28 is an overwhelming Blue victory... MiHale Jan 30 #4
It will not be Vance jonstl08 Jan 30 #5
Electoral Count Reform Act of 2022. VP's role is purely ministerial. chowder66 Jan 30 #6
The answer is the same as when it was asked in the last two elections sarisataka Jan 30 #7
Depends on who is Vice President. usonian Jan 30 #9
His role is purely ceremonial. Kaleva Jan 30 #10
The VP doesn't certify Fiendish Thingy Jan 30 #11

Callie1979

(1,351 posts)
1. Does the VP always do the certifications or only when his party controls the Senate?
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:33 PM
Jan 30

It's quite possible the GOP loses the Senate.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
8. The VP presides as president of the Senate
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:52 PM
Jan 30

From Article 2:

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President,

aeromanKC

(3,893 posts)
2. With any luck, he won't be the vice president.
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:36 PM
Jan 30

His VP replacement won't be much better, but just think MAGAGOP will not be the same without the mango Mussolini.

MiHale

(13,037 posts)
4. By then, if, if...the result in '28 is an overwhelming Blue victory...
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:37 PM
Jan 30

And the midterms go as we fantasize in November (both houses) …he’ll really have no choice.

But it will be fun if the above scenario comes to fruition.

jonstl08

(565 posts)
5. It will not be Vance
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:43 PM
Jan 30

Trump probably will not survive this term so will Vance's replacement certify it. Probably not.

chowder66

(12,247 posts)
6. Electoral Count Reform Act of 2022. VP's role is purely ministerial.
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:45 PM
Jan 30

Makes it absolutely clear that the Vice President’s role in the electoral vote-counting process is ministerial. [Section 109]

The 12th Amendment provides that, after they vote as part of the Electoral College, presidential electors must send certificates of their electoral votes to the president of the Senate (usually the vice president). But with respect to the vice president’s role during the counting process, the 12th Amendment says only that “[t]he President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.” The original ECA designated the President of the Senate as the presiding officer when Congress meets on January 6. The statute assigned the presiding officer specific duties, such as “preserving order,” calling for objections, and announcing the results.

Contrary to arguments made during the last election, neither the 12th Amendment nor the ECA contemplated a role for the vice president — or any other presiding officer — that involves making substantive decisions about which electoral votes to count. That said, the law could have been explicit in order to foreclose any argument that the vice president has the power to decide the election.

Accordingly, the ECRA specifies that the vice president’s role in the process of counting electoral votes is limited to “ministerial duties” and that he or she has “no power to solely determine, accept, reject, or otherwise adjudicate or resolve disputes over the proper list of electors, the validity of electors, or the votes of electors.”

https://protectdemocracy.org/work/understanding-the-electoral-count-reform-act-of-2022/

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
7. The answer is the same as when it was asked in the last two elections
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 03:51 PM
Jan 30

The Vice President's certification is symbolic. One single person does not have the power to overturn the entire election.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,253 posts)
11. The VP doesn't certify
Fri Jan 30, 2026, 04:48 PM
Jan 30

The joint session of congress does.

After January 6, congress passed, and Biden signed, the Electoral Count Reform Act.

Among other things, it defined the VP’s role as purely ceremonial/parliamentary, with no authority.

It also raised the threshold to sustain an objection to a state’s slate of electors.

Vance will preside over the tally, congress will vote to certify the winner, and the clerk will enter the result in the record.

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