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PCIntern

(28,248 posts)
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 09:19 AM Feb 4

Ok: I heard the MOST INCREDIBLY VILE rumor, which I shall not repeat here

Last edited Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)

And was wondering if anyone else has heard/seen it. I need not be descriptive because if you are familiar with that which I am talking about, you know.

And believe me, if you haven’t heard, and it turns out to be untrue, then you absolutely do not want to know what it is.

It borders on the indescribable. No…it’s there. I’m not asking for you to post it, just an acknowledgment.

ON EDIT: SOMEONE BELOW-THREAD POSTED MORE OR LESS THAT TO WHICH I AM REFERRING.

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Ok: I heard the MOST INCREDIBLY VILE rumor, which I shall not repeat here (Original Post) PCIntern Feb 4 OP
Oy vey Prairie Gates Feb 4 #1
gosh can you narrow it down a bit WhiskeyGrinder Feb 4 #2
No PCIntern Feb 4 #4
I think I know what you're referring to Zorro Feb 4 #23
Which one? there are plenty of vile rumors.How can we know if you won't post it? mwmisses4289 Feb 4 #3
You know, PCIntern Feb 4 #6
So, it's a rumor of a rumor, or a meta-rumor. usonian Feb 7 #76
"Bordering on CT" Conjuay Feb 4 #14
😄😄😄😄👍 ColoringFool Feb 4 #33
😄 mwmisses4289 Feb 4 #59
Where did you hear it? PuraVidaDreamin Feb 4 #5
Reportedly a site which an acquaintance of mine frequents PCIntern Feb 4 #9
So you have "sources". Permanut Feb 4 #52
Warning: graphic WhiskeyGrinder Feb 4 #7
You posted it. I didn't. PCIntern Feb 4 #11
did I guess it??? WhiskeyGrinder Feb 4 #13
Ding ding ding. PCIntern Feb 4 #16
What is this, third grade? yardwork Feb 4 #18
isn't that just q anon 101 "adrencloroiquin" or some nonnsense? rampartd Feb 4 #22
yeah people shouldn't believe everything they read WhiskeyGrinder Feb 4 #26
It's chicken and egg, smoke and fire question. yardwork Feb 4 #28
Post removed Post removed Feb 4 #60
That name tho. n/t flvegan Feb 4 #62
adrenochrome Celerity Feb 4 #61
not as much fun as draining the "preborn of their vital bodily fluids, rampartd Feb 4 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author rampartd Feb 4 #67
This sounds like something... skypilot Feb 4 #27
exactly WhiskeyGrinder Feb 4 #29
Really? Why would they eat that? babylonsister Feb 4 #38
great questions! WhiskeyGrinder Feb 4 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 4 #53
I mean, okay. Tommy Carcetti Feb 4 #49
exactly WhiskeyGrinder Feb 4 #50
I recall that David Icke used to write Safe as Milk Feb 7 #80
oh come on Skittles Feb 7 #81
If it's the one about that guy who did that thing... EYESORE 9001 Feb 4 #8
maybe tell us where you heard it and then we can figure out if that person told us too WhiskeyGrinder Feb 4 #10
I've heard Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files more than anyone else. Intractable Feb 4 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 4 #65
The number bdamomma Feb 6 #71
... orangecrush Feb 4 #15
Story leaves no doubt why the biggest asshole in the world... Kid Berwyn Feb 4 #17
Please don't vague post. Say it or delete this post. Jbraybarten Feb 4 #19
I'm sorry PCIntern Feb 4 #24
You could have, for instance, said "about something in the Epstein Files" muriel_volestrangler Feb 4 #51
You know, PCIntern Feb 6 #69
So it was just clickbait? OK, good to know. (nt) muriel_volestrangler Feb 7 #82
I'm tired of talking to you so goodbye. PCIntern Feb 7 #83
Please don't reply with straw men. It has nothing do with me. What is the point of vague posting? FFS. Jbraybarten Feb 6 #68
Feel free to use the graphic below dating to the early '70s post-Hippies, regarding your UTUSN Feb 6 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author niyad Feb 4 #35
OK, admit it Cirsium Feb 4 #54
How about a category? Bettie Feb 4 #20
Sure Cirsium Feb 4 #56
If it's the one about trump, a chihuahua, and a Water Pik it's just as well I know nothing about it. nt Buns_of_Fire Feb 4 #21
OMG Cirsium Feb 4 #57
Does it matter? Nothing will ever be done regardless of what he does. 617Blue Feb 4 #25
Can't decide if this post is PikaBlue Feb 4 #30
Guilt. ColoringFool Feb 4 #32
I'll Just Say: Anyone Who Thinks There Were No Murders Is Naive To The Extreme.... ColoringFool Feb 4 #31
Wouldn't surprise me at all should it be true Torchlight Feb 4 #34
wouldn't surprise me either at this point. harumph Feb 4 #39
in regards bdamomma Feb 6 #72
I hope it comes with a video with sensational front-page graphics! That would be quite titillating. NBachers Feb 4 #36
The files contain a lot of uninvestigated allegations along with the investigated ones. Scrivener7 Feb 4 #37
I know exactly what you're talking about but can't say anything about it either... NNadir Feb 4 #41
Which one? "Incredibly vile" seems to be a thing these days. Ocelot II Feb 4 #42
Look upthread PCIntern Feb 4 #43
In a world where some of our fellow travelers Arthur_Frain Feb 4 #44
Incredible is probably the best word to use. MineralMan Feb 4 #45
+1 leftstreet Feb 4 #58
One thing for sure, with theseb type of creeps, NOTHING would surprise me bluestarone Feb 4 #46
Why would Rebl2 Feb 4 #47
You must choose wisely. usonian Feb 4 #48
That some of them murdered children or babies, mwmisses4289 Feb 4 #55
LOL Greg_In_SF Feb 4 #63
I definitely must check my list of vile rumors. Sneederbunk Feb 4 #66
Is this the thing on the secret message channel? Sparkly Feb 6 #70
darling, I was thinking it was three times back, but I acknowledge it has been . . . . . Stinky The Clown Feb 6 #73
More projecting of what they are doing Blue Full Moon Feb 7 #75
I've seen people connecting this video to this rumor. Wiz Imp Feb 7 #77
I've seen/read about allegations re murders B.See Feb 7 #78
BOMBSHELL! jmbar2 Feb 7 #79

mwmisses4289

(3,901 posts)
3. Which one? there are plenty of vile rumors.How can we know if you won't post it?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 09:26 AM
Feb 4

And the "if you know, you know" is annoying, bordering on CT.

PCIntern

(28,248 posts)
6. You know,
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 09:30 AM
Feb 4

If I posted this rumor, everyone would immediately brand me as a complete and utter degenerate and harbinger of gossip which absolutely transcends maliciousness. So I’m not going to do it. I simply asked if anyone else had heard a rumor, So I’m not going to do it. I did not say that it’s true, and I will not be prod into posting it.

I have been a responsible member of this community for 22 years and will not alter my reputation. I was simply asking if anyone else had heard this. Do I need to say that again?

usonian

(24,841 posts)
76. So, it's a rumor of a rumor, or a meta-rumor.
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 12:59 AM
Feb 7

The creative speculation forum has been abandoned. Too bad.

PCIntern

(28,248 posts)
9. Reportedly a site which an acquaintance of mine frequents
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 09:32 AM
Feb 4

which she claims possesses legitimacy most of the time.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,845 posts)
7. Warning: graphic
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 09:31 AM
Feb 4

Is it the allegation from the Epstein files that rich people murdered babies and cut them open and ate their feces?

rampartd

(4,525 posts)
22. isn't that just q anon 101 "adrencloroiquin" or some nonnsense?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:04 AM
Feb 4

q anon is quite specific that trump intends, to exorcise our nation of the liberals and democrat devil worshippers who do that stuff.

yardwork

(69,267 posts)
28. It's chicken and egg, smoke and fire question.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:19 AM
Feb 4

Which came first: Vile behavior by Republicans or QAnon rumors that smeared Democrats?

With TrumpCo every accusation is a confession.

Trump won in 2016 because vile rumors about Hillary Clinton were spread by Russian trolls. Maybe the vile things were true but it was Trump and his buddies who did them.

This would have been a powerful weapon against the truth. If evidence against Trump had surfaced in 2016, the similarly vile rumors about Hillary would have confused people.

One thing is clear. There are extraordinarily wealthy people in the world and some of them are incredibly evil. They have the means to do anything they want.

Response to rampartd (Reply #22)

Celerity

(54,240 posts)
61. adrenochrome
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 01:31 PM
Feb 4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenochrome

Adrenochrome is a chemical compound produced by the oxidation of adrenaline (epinephrine). It was the subject of limited research from the 1950s through to the 1970s as a potential cause of schizophrenia. While adrenochrome has no currently proven medical application, the semicarbazide derivative, carbazochrome, is a hemostatic medication. Adrenochrome is mass produced and commercially available to the public, and is not a controlled substance.

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In his 1954 book The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley mentioned the discovery and the alleged effects of adrenochrome, which he likened to the symptoms of mescaline intoxication, although he had never consumed it.

Anthony Burgess mentions adrenochrome as "drencrom" at the beginning of his 1962 novel A Clockwork Orange. The protagonist and his friends are drinking drug-laced milk: "They had no license for selling liquor, but there was no law yet against prodding some of the new veshches which they used to put into the old moloko, so you could peet it with vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom or one or two other veshches [...]"

Hunter S. Thompson mentioned adrenochrome in his 1971 book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. This is the likely origin of current myths surrounding this compound, because a character states that "There's only one source for this stuff ... the adrenaline glands from a living human body. It's no good if you get it out of a corpse." The adrenochrome scene also appears in the novel's film adaptation. In the DVD commentary, director Terry Gilliam admits that his and Thompson's portrayal is a fictional exaggeration. Gilliam insists that the drug is entirely fictional and seems unaware of the existence of a substance with the same name. Hunter S. Thompson also mentions adrenochrome in his book Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72. In the footnotes in chapter April, page 140, he says: "It was sometime after midnight in a ratty hotel room and my memory of the conversation is hazy, due to massive ingestion of booze, fatback, and forty cc's of adrenochrome."

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Adrenochrome is the subject of several conspiracy theories, including QAnon and Pizzagate, in which the chemical plays a similar role to Satanic ritual abuse stories. The theories commonly state that a cabal of theistic Satanists rape and murder children, and harvest adrenochrome from their victims' blood as a recreational drug or as an elixir of youth, similar to children's blood infusions. In reality, adrenochrome has been produced by organic synthesis since at least 1952, is synthesized for research purposes by biotechnology companies, who will then sell it to anyone; as it is not a controlled substance, any medical or recreational use of the chemical is effortless to access.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #61)

babylonsister

(172,719 posts)
38. Really? Why would they eat that?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:41 AM
Feb 4
or cut babies open for that matter?

I'm plenty appalled about the possibility of snuff films; have not heard this one. And might I repeat...

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #40)

Tommy Carcetti

(44,480 posts)
49. I mean, okay.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 12:36 PM
Feb 4

Sounds like QAnon to me.

This is why I've managed to keep arms length from the whole Epstein thing.

There's a lot of truth to it, but also a whole lot of crazy unsubstantiated bullshit as well.

Safe as Milk

(241 posts)
80. I recall that David Icke used to write
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 01:59 AM
Feb 7

similar stories of shape shifting reptilians conducting cannibalism rituals with young children as sacrificial victims. Just as with this story, they had to extract a specific chemical from a still-alive victim. This stuff was published in one or more of Icke’s books.

Intractable

(1,945 posts)
12. I've heard Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files more than anyone else.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 09:34 AM
Feb 4

But, it's just a rumor I heard multiple times on MS-NOW.

Response to Intractable (Reply #12)

Kid Berwyn

(24,124 posts)
17. Story leaves no doubt why the biggest asshole in the world...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 09:48 AM
Feb 4

…got to be the biggest asshole in the world.

Might explain why he never uses the words, “kick” and “broomstick.”

PCIntern

(28,248 posts)
24. I'm sorry
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:08 AM
Feb 4

I had not realized that I needed to adhere to your standards and take into account your sentiments before I posted. I certainly was not going to post the specifics yes thank you something of that nature as a rumor… The fact that someone else wished to do that is their business. If I had done so, and this turns out to be false, then people, such as you most likelywould accuse me of rumormongering of the worst categorization .

There are a whole lot of vague posts around here anyway… Including those which are descriptive of how the individual is reacting to a situation. These are emotional posts, certainly valid in my opinion, but not substantive from a newsworthy point of view, and would likely fit your description of “vague”.

With all due respect to you of course.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,071 posts)
51. You could have, for instance, said "about something in the Epstein Files"
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 12:50 PM
Feb 4

without saying any of the words you wanted to avoid. That at least would give everyone some idea of the area. You didn't come within a zipcode of any "specifics". Few DU OPs are as vague as you were - "call your rep right fucking now" was, I guess ...

PCIntern

(28,248 posts)
69. You know,
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 08:10 PM
Feb 6

I “could” do a lot of things. I chose to do it this way. I think it did its job because I KNEW that someone else would eventually post the rumor.

Because after 22 years here, I know my customer(s).

Jbraybarten

(231 posts)
68. Please don't reply with straw men. It has nothing do with me. What is the point of vague posting? FFS.
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 01:01 PM
Feb 6

UTUSN

(77,585 posts)
74. Feel free to use the graphic below dating to the early '70s post-Hippies, regarding your
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 11:03 PM
Feb 6

"I had not realized that I needed to adhere to your standards and take into account your sentiments before I posted."


Response to Jbraybarten (Reply #19)

Bettie

(19,600 posts)
20. How about a category?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:01 AM
Feb 4

Clearly, I have not heard this, but there is indescribable evil from the right wing daily.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,110 posts)
21. If it's the one about trump, a chihuahua, and a Water Pik it's just as well I know nothing about it. nt
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:03 AM
Feb 4

PikaBlue

(484 posts)
30. Can't decide if this post is
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:23 AM
Feb 4

a verbal Rorschach Test or a modern adaptation of "The Minister's Black Veil" by Nathaniel Hawthorne.

ColoringFool

(602 posts)
31. I'll Just Say: Anyone Who Thinks There Were No Murders Is Naive To The Extreme....
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:24 AM
Feb 4

What, all the raped children were given trust funds for college? More like many were dropped into the Caribbean.

But see, here's what happens: People in the know and in cahoots add bizarre elements to "rumors" so as to get people to disbelieve ALL elements, aka, the truth.

And then, with zero actual law enforcement investigations, or at least not very thorough ones, rumors are then classified and accepted as Crazy Conspiracy Theories To Be Ridiculed.

Me? I prefer to remember the Maine and the Gulf of Tonkin.

Torchlight

(6,730 posts)
34. Wouldn't surprise me at all should it be true
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:30 AM
Feb 4

Wouldn't surprise many people at all should it be true.

"They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand... They are different."
~ F. Scott Fitzgerald ~

harumph

(3,215 posts)
39. wouldn't surprise me either at this point.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:46 AM
Feb 4

“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy - they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

F. Scott Fitzgerald

bdamomma

(69,503 posts)
72. in regards
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 08:43 PM
Feb 6

to quotes by F. Scott Fitzgerald, I stick with Carlin who said "it's a big club, and we ain't in it"

NBachers

(19,394 posts)
36. I hope it comes with a video with sensational front-page graphics! That would be quite titillating.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:34 AM
Feb 4

Scrivener7

(59,341 posts)
37. The files contain a lot of uninvestigated allegations along with the investigated ones.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 10:34 AM
Feb 4

While I wouldn't put anything past them, there seem to be many stories that are carbon copies of the Satanic Panic stories about baby-killing, which is a phenomenon that surfaces at least once in every generation. I think we need especially to be careful to get credible corroboration on those kinds of stories.

There is enough horror in the files coming from FBI confirmed sources for us to consider.

NNadir

(37,873 posts)
41. I know exactly what you're talking about but can't say anything about it either...
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:10 AM
Feb 4

...because if I were to repeat it, well then, who knows what the consequences would be for the people who may have been involved.

The sources of course are alleged to be impeccable by the people, who I can't name, lest they be dragged into this mess, who clearly know about these things, although their lips are sealed.

Arthur_Frain

(2,321 posts)
44. In a world where some of our fellow travelers
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:27 AM
Feb 4

have had intimate relations with chickens, you have to consider everything.

Yet here in the world of AI deepfakes I question even the most simple images I see these days.

What an interesting time to watch what happens to humanity next.

MineralMan

(151,107 posts)
45. Incredible is probably the best word to use.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:44 AM
Feb 4

Not believable. That's what "incredible" means.

I read down the thread, and the story that appears to be the subject here is truly incredible, in the above sense.

Did not happen. That's my assessment, and I'm moving on to some other subject that has more credibility.

leftstreet

(40,253 posts)
58. +1
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 01:23 PM
Feb 4

Also don't like the way these stories minimize sexual assault on women and girls

But maybe that's...nevermind

bluestarone

(22,038 posts)
46. One thing for sure, with theseb type of creeps, NOTHING would surprise me
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 11:54 AM
Feb 4

NOTHING! The most evil bastards ever!

Rebl2

(17,639 posts)
47. Why would
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 12:07 PM
Feb 4

you even post this at all if you aren’t going to say what it is about? If it’s a rumor, it shouldn’t be posted at all.

usonian

(24,841 posts)
48. You must choose wisely.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 12:33 PM
Feb 4
Door number one:

Paul Desmond, rather than Dave Brubeck wrote
"Blue Rondo a la Turk" (or was it Dave?)


Door number two:

Jets sign Uncle Rico.





Door number three:

DOJ Removes New Epstein Files That Mention Wild Trump Sex Allegations, Including Rape
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/new-epstein-files-release-mentions-wild-trump-sex-allegations-including-rape-and-later-removed/






Door number four?

mwmisses4289

(3,901 posts)
55. That some of them murdered children or babies,
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 01:20 PM
Feb 4

that i can believe; there are way too many stories of parents/relatives killing their children and babies. As for the rest of it, makes me think of Countess Elizabeth Bathory of Hungary, a prolific several killer of the late 1500s to early 1600s who killed young girls and young women, supposedly in the belief that drinking their blood would keep her young and healthy.

Sparkly

(24,877 posts)
70. Is this the thing on the secret message channel?
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 08:20 PM
Feb 6

If you don't know which secret message channel, don't answer here.

If you do, only reply privately to the people here who know.

PW: Not the last one. The one two times back.

Stinky The Clown

(68,951 posts)
73. darling, I was thinking it was three times back, but I acknowledge it has been . . . . .
Fri Feb 6, 2026, 09:46 PM
Feb 6

. . . . . . been a while and my book may be expired.

Blue Full Moon

(3,398 posts)
75. More projecting of what they are doing
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 12:38 AM
Feb 7

Just like why isn't anything being said about concentration camps. Late 90s Alex Jones was talking about it. Now someone will just say it's cray cray. There was an article about that they performed occult rituals. Similar story was Gilles de Rais and others.

B.See

(8,301 posts)
78. I've seen/read about allegations re murders
Sat Feb 7, 2026, 01:46 AM
Feb 7

specifically an allegation described by fbi as 'unsustantiated' involving Trump and a Lake Michigan... incident. But wasn't aware of the above.

Nothing of them would surprise me tho.

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