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JD Vance says there are 30М undocumented folks in the U.S., In 2025 they were responsible for 29 murders, meaning 1 in a million is a murderer. On the other hand 22,000 ICE agents killed 34 people in 2025. That means 1 in 674 ICE agents is a murderer
dlk
(13,254 posts)Vance yawns.
IbogaProject
(5,921 posts)I was very happy when the Niden Administration removed illegal alien from government use.
Greg_In_SF
(1,257 posts)8 U.S.C. § 1325: Addresses improper entry by aliens, including entering at unauthorized times or places, and misrepresentation. Penalties include fines and imprisonment.
8 U.S.C. § 1324: Involves bringing in and harboring certain aliens, imposing penalties on those who assist in illegal entry.
Scrivener7
(59,534 posts)Then, when we get into office we can abolish it.
I don't really see any of the published negotiation points being negotiable.
And what can republicans' position be? "Ok, we won't trample these two Constitutional rights, but we'll continue to trample these other 4"?
If that is their position (which it is) we need to make them own that.
boston bean
(36,934 posts)We dont have to tell them the out of existence part.
Scrivener7
(59,534 posts)Just as they had no intentions of instituting Project 2025, we have no intention of abolishing ice.
Scrivener7
(59,534 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,518 posts)Chasstev365
(7,804 posts)we can do it
(13,024 posts)CaptainTruth
(8,204 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,960 posts)Emile
(42,316 posts)It's time to be on the side of justice, and ABOLISH ICE NOW!
we can do it
(13,024 posts)Mr.Bee
(1,827 posts)Being undocumented is generally a civil violation with immigration consequences (removal/deportation) rather than a criminal one.
usonian
(25,393 posts)ICE is needed there.