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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs Crash Deepens, Investors Say Bitcoin Is Headed for Zero Dollars
https://futurism.com/future-society/crash-bitcoin-headed-zero-dollarsOur BTC price target is 0.0, Pivotus Partners chief market strategist and partner Richard Farr tweeted. Thats not just for shock factor. Its where the math takes us.
Farr said he concurred with Michael Burry, who famously shorted the US housing market before its collapse in 2008, and recently warned in a Substack post that further losses for Bitcoin could result in a death spiral.
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Farr also criticized the token for being damaging to the environment, as mining it requires copious amounts of energy and water.
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AZJonnie
(3,205 posts)As bad as AI is in this regard, at least it does SOMETHING.
Crypto is the stupidest waste of valuable energy resources ever invented (even worse that auto racing).
Crypto is literally saying "this thing has value because it represents the completely unproductive and copious waste of resources that could've been used to actually create something useful".
Crypto is fucking stupid and needs to die
WarGamer
(18,318 posts)BTC is one of the last.
AZJonnie
(3,205 posts)And crypto does have some utility in terms of payment facilitation and it can be cheaper than alternatives, including in terms of natural resource usage. I'm sure there's some other ways it's not so bad
PoW crypto is what annoys me by far the most. I should've been more clear
In my defense, the topic at hand is bitcoin, so ......
paleotn
(21,823 posts)But AI isn't doing much other than writing uninspired term papers, buggy code, and crappy porn.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)Seems like this was a scam opportunity from the get go. I mean, what assets backed this currency? Blind faith?
NoSheep
(8,328 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,348 posts).
modrepub
(4,018 posts)You can probably leverage it with a derivative (as long as you can find someone who accepts your counter).
A lot of folks deplore derivatives. If used too much they can cause a lot of volatility. Margin calls on things like these have probably cause a lot of market volatility this week.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)I always thought playing in derivatives was a tool to reduce the friction of market changes.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)Did this fact start the slide? I can only speculate.
Hugin
(37,610 posts)Zero Hold It said. Basically, dont have any is what it means.
They said that they were basing their recommendation on, you know, metrics. Saying that crapto is in no way a hedge on the dollar. It has no intrinsic value. Mainly a rehash of what DUers have been goin on about FOREVER.
There was one tidbit about the Bitcoin specifically that I wasnt aware of and that is about 66% of Bitcoin is controlled by ONE ENTITY. (One person.)
WarGamer
(18,318 posts)Coinbase holds 4%
The US Gov't holds less than 2%
Hugin
(37,610 posts)Bitcoin is finite and cornered.
WarGamer
(18,318 posts)Hugin
(37,610 posts)Its about control. 60% of Bitcoin trade is currently controlled by one entity.
WarGamer
(18,318 posts)BTC is controlled by the people who own the pass codes to the wallets...
Maybe they meant 60% of BTC is controlled by humans with blonde, brown or black hair?
Captain Zero
(8,807 posts)Just my hunch.
What do you bet they are already cashed it?
They probably started the run, truth be known.
Another one of his sadistic highs, for sure.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)It drives you closer to shore. Drop sails and anchor before you really fuck up.
sakabatou
(45,928 posts)CrispyQ
(40,804 posts)Last I knew she still had it.
ColoringFool
(429 posts)cojoel
(1,022 posts)But when bitcoin was becoming a "thing" a decade ago he was very excited about it. In particular he felt there was a finite amount of it based on the bitcoin design, and that would be stable, somehow. For some reason he asked my thoughts about it.
I said "it is kind of like a fiat currency that is not backed by the full faith and credit of any government in the world". This was not the answer he was hoping for, hahaha.
Uncle Joe
(64,539 posts)It was his financial backers that took the hit.
Thanks for the thread highplainsdem
bronxiteforever
(11,211 posts)
dickthegrouch
(4,392 posts)could ever be considered secure.
Anyone can re-create a prime number given enough time, or processing power.
Bit coin and block chain were always destined for disaster in my opinion.
surfered
(12,327 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,499 posts)BurnDoubt
(1,579 posts)I always thought it was a scam.
It certainly seems like a swell way to launder money, or offer bribery.
ToxMarz
(2,797 posts)So does AI and humans, I wonder if they are all competing for the same limited resources.
Orrex
(66,808 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,544 posts)The speculation applied to crypto mirrored the worst anticipation of untold riches applied to the early days of the internet.
Except...Crypto was always going to flop since it had no valuation at all in and of itself. The only cash involved came from those fooled into paying coin of the realm for vaporware.
People have forgotten that it was formulated as a method to avoid national banking and tax authorities, and it has been used as such by drug dealers and terrorists.
cate94
(3,060 posts)Gore1FL
(22,895 posts)For giggles I invested about $1000 into a bitcoin fund once and ultimately made about 20%. During the brief time I had it, Elon Musk said about 6-7 stupid things that flung the price around, mostly down. I sold when it climbed again and pretty much said "never again."
I guess had I kept it for a longer term I'd have made a bit of money, but I really don't like investing it make-believe. Bitcoin isn't different than the NFT idiocy except that it ate energy and didn't come with a picture or whatever.
I look forward to the nonsense ending. Our BTC price target is 0.0. What a lovely phrase.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)You've traded real money for a system you do not understand.
Gore1FL
(22,895 posts)I am not sure, though, that the system is understandable.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)Why else would Trump invest.
Norrrm
(4,374 posts)A volatile, unstable, wishful 'currency' with no assets or gov't support backing it.
The big money return in crypto is:::
1. Starting it, hyping it, selling it, and getting out, leaving the
suckers holding the bag.
2. Handling/storing it for others.
...a. Not your own money/crypto. Someone else's money/crypto.
...b. Lots of fraud/money manipulation/theft/lack of regulation.
3. Backed by trust/faith/great promises/optimism... but no
real assets.
4. It can literally disappear and good luck with lawsuits.
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A few have profited by 'investing' but not the majority.
Bitcoin is one of the very, very few that has made profit.
And that is only because enough people WANT to believe in it.
Even bitcoin has no real assets backing it.
BC is used as a fantastic example of crypto but it is a lucky outlier.
Hundreds of others have flopped.
Should the US Gov't invest in/purchase massive amounts of crypto with taxpayer 'real' money?
Every legislator approving this should be made to invest half their family's life savings in the very same crypto to show their confidence in it.
BTW... You're buying it with your 'real' money.
Will they let you buy it with your other old broken crypto?
BannonsLiver
(20,315 posts)Creepy weirdo dead inside types. Guys who tan their nutsacks because they think it boosts testosterone.
masmdu
(2,642 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 7, 2026, 12:22 AM - Edit history (1)
Periodically over the next 3 weeks to as low as .77 (currently 1.45). Last chance before likely passage of Clarity act. Tokenization of Real World Assets (RWA) is THE crypto use case.
roamer65
(37,850 posts)1932 was a wonderful year for Democrats!
awesomerwb1
(5,037 posts)All time high > huge correction/ big dip/crash whatever you want to call it > trades sideways for a year or two > goes up to an all time high again. Repeat.
LudwigPastorius
(14,377 posts)I agree that Bitcoin is primarily speculative, but there are tons of other investment types without underlying value or income generation. As long as there is someone who wants to take a chance on making money, it will persist.
Personally, if I were to invest in Crypto, it would be in tokens and blockchains that have utility, or potential utility. (Ethereum, Ripple, SOL, etc.) not Bitcoin.
Old Crank
(6,767 posts)As Krugman has pointed out.
We know what happened with the iPhone.
Are there any real uses for bitcoin other than speculation or money laundering?
jmowreader
(52,994 posts)You can...
Buy drugs with it.
Pay your ransom when some asshole's malware encrypts your hard drive with it.
Hire a hitman with it.
Buy illegal weapons like machine guns and high explosives with it.
The problem with using it for anything legitimate is the price per bitcoin...it's like "one gallon of milk, 2/100,000 of one BTC."
