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RickHworth

(145 posts)
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 08:25 PM 11 hrs ago

What the comparison really is.

At my watering hole, it was brought up how much in benefits that "illegals" get. I was told that all that I had to do was to just Google it.
I did.
On my phone, I googled "how much do illegal immigrants get in benefits in the United States". I present the query on my phone to the bartender, that made the statement, and another patron, who was listening in, for verification. She agreed to what I typed, along with the other patron. I press search.
The result popped up immediately and without reading the result, I turned my phone that she could read the result.
"Your phone is wrong!" was her response. Then the owner of the bar piped in saying that illegals are getting thousands of dollars of food stamps, as quick as the patron says "that is not what this says" pointing to my phone.
Facts do not matter to this cult. We need to stop wasting time and energy trying to "reach them" This is not the former Republican party. This is a cult of personality, and just as shallow.

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What the comparison really is. (Original Post) RickHworth 11 hrs ago OP
Years of The Felon screaming "Fake News" has livetohike 11 hrs ago #1
They are not reachable sdfernando 11 hrs ago #2
what 'undocumented' immigrants get in benefits.... markie 11 hrs ago #3
Why are you spending $$ at a maga business? RainCaster 10 hrs ago #4
The cult of personality statement got me thinking. Ilikepurple 10 hrs ago #5
Yep. I don't bother engaging anymore. progressoid 9 hrs ago #6
Facts are wasted on the willfully ignorant... Wounded Bear 9 hrs ago #7
Not just a cult of personality, a ragtag collection of morons. NoMoreRepugs 9 hrs ago #8
Something I explained to a similar person leftieNanner 9 hrs ago #9
The Dunning-Krugar effect - They're so stupid, they think they are smart. Intractable 9 hrs ago #10
Should have told her to try it on her phone Figarosmom 9 hrs ago #11

markie

(23,956 posts)
3. what 'undocumented' immigrants get in benefits....
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 08:54 PM
11 hrs ago

compared to how much this administration is spending on maligning them is peanuts.... if only they understood

RainCaster

(13,467 posts)
4. Why are you spending $$ at a maga business?
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:17 PM
10 hrs ago

When the owner of that bar tells you a long line of maga bullshit, your response should be to leave and never return.

Ilikepurple

(474 posts)
5. The cult of personality statement got me thinking.
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:19 PM
10 hrs ago

Trump hasn’t always captured the hearts and minds of such a large subset of Americans. It seems as soon as he became the brazen embodiment of the right wing propaganda, he was able to slide into a vacuum created by right wing radio and Fox News. When faced with his Republican competition in the 2016 primaries he doubled down when others hedged and acquiesced in betrayal of a reality established by their trusted news sources playing on systemic bigotry and collective self-pity. One would think facts at some point would interfere with this approach, but seemingly not. I had a friend tell me once that it was easy to beat the house at blackjack by doubling down whenever you lose. The problem is that at some point you are likely to run out of funds or the house will might simply no longer take your bets. I’m hoping that one of these obtain for either our political system or at least a larger number of constituents.

progressoid

(52,816 posts)
6. Yep. I don't bother engaging anymore.
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:22 PM
9 hrs ago

Partially for my own sanity. But mostly because they refuse to accept reality.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221006250

They're not going to be reasoned out of it. They weren't reasoned into it.


leftieNanner

(16,140 posts)
9. Something I explained to a similar person
Mon Feb 9, 2026, 10:51 PM
9 hrs ago

Was that legal, asylum seeking immigrants do get some assistance with food and housing. That's where the Magats get this stuff. If you try to acknowledge what they say that way, and then explain that undocumented immigrants do not get that help, you might make a small dent. Also, if people are here illegally, they don't want to be found by the government. In order to receive any benefits, they would have to sign up for them! Which would let ICE know where to find them.

I know. I'm making sense here. Silly me.

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