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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuardian "Point of no return: a hellish 'hothouse Earth' getting closer, scientists say"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/feb/11/point-of-no-return-hothouse-earth-global-heating-climate-tipping-points?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_OtherThe world is closer than thought to a point of no return after which runaway global heating cannot be stopped, scientists have said.
Continued global heating could trigger climate tipping points, leading to a cascade of further tipping points and feedback loops, they said. This would lock the world into a new and hellish hothouse Earth climate far worse than the 2-3C temperature rise the world is on track to reach. The climate would also be very different to the benign conditions of the past 11,000 years, during which the whole of human civilisation developed.
At just 1.3C of global heating in recent years, extreme weather is already taking lives and destroying livelihoods across the globe. At 3-4C, the economy and society will cease to function as we know it, scientists said last week, but a hothouse Earth would be even more fiery.
The public and politicians were largely unaware of the risk of passing the point of no return, the researchers said. The group said they were issuing their warning because while rapid and immediate cuts to fossil fuel burning were challenging, reversing course was likely to be impossible once on the path to a hothouse Earth, even if emissions were eventually slashed.
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Bolding is mine. Just unbelievable.
Irish_Dem
(80,476 posts)They are fine with it.
They made a lot of money ruining the planet and refuse to pay one penny to reverse the damage.
Johnny2X2X
(23,880 posts)They see the coming calamity and know hundreds of millions of people will be looking to migrate to safer areas.
Irish_Dem
(80,476 posts)yardwork
(69,124 posts)Buying Greenland, riding rockets to Mars, building underground bunkers.
Irish_Dem
(80,476 posts)leftstreet
(39,646 posts)Well, okay, scary, horrifying, dystopian...
DURec
chowder66
(12,029 posts)chowder66
(12,029 posts)La Coliniere
(1,836 posts)And yet most Americans have no interest in owning electric vehicles and big pickup trucks are still very much desired. Ugh
fujiyamasan
(1,454 posts)Thats the big lie that enriched Elon Musk.
Democratic administrations are largely responsible for him getting so wealthy.
AloeVera
(4,088 posts)To our descendants.
Their only concern is winning the next election. They are politicians after all, not leaders.
We need visionaries and true leaders, combined with revolutionary changes in our societal and economic structures. I don't see that happening until the really bad times start and by then it will be much too late. It seems that as a species, we are not capable of putting our descendants' lives ahead of our own. Or future gain/survival before present comfort. All we can do is watch the ice melt in sorrow and powerlessness.
Edited to add:
And we're not as smart as we think we are. Or we'd learn from ant colonies and bee hives and work together as a COLLECTIVE. But you know, COMMUNISM and FREEDOM! As I said, revolutionary changes but those would require EVOLUTIONARY changes too.
yardwork
(69,124 posts)They vote for liars and conmen. Or they refuse to vote for somebody they perceive as being not good enough. Either way, the lying conmen win and seize control.
So here we are.
AloeVera
(4,088 posts)About how our political and societal systems have failed our species - because they've made "courageous politicians" an impossibility as it relates to our future survival. Even before Trump, we fell far short of what was needed to save our planet - and us.
Also about how we lack certain evolutionary qualities of collective and species survival present in even insects.
Not the place to rehash old and tired arguments or score points about the last election. But to each his own.
Coventina
(29,493 posts)Im just sorry for our fellow creatures and the lovely planet.
BigmanPigman
(54,845 posts)biophile
(1,323 posts)Humans deserve what they get, for the most part. The other species unfortunately will go down with us.
Bless the beasts and the children.
IbogaProject
(5,724 posts)And with all that Methane under the Arctic ocean poised to release in mass there is a risk of our water evaporating off the planet. This isn't life will be hard, this is extinction level serious. The last methane caused extinciton cycle killed 90-95% of all life.
AloeVera
(4,088 posts)Thanks for that info. I think.
That's so bad. But I keep hearing that we can't give up, though it may seem hopeless. Not yet...
Our capacity to fool ourselves and our capacity for hope may be what doom us as much as our rapaciousness for creature comforts, gizmos and wealth.
leftstreet
(39,646 posts)We need more of this: people who can put these things in perspective in understandable words
AloeVera
(4,088 posts)We need awareness. We need to be scared!
IbogaProject
(5,724 posts)I suspect the one remaining mechanism to head the worst off might be increased vulanism. Maybe a large volcano, hopefully not Yellowstone, goes off and gives us some temporary cooling and more polar snow and ice coverage. Here is a recent link, this is by university professors under pen names due to all the climate deniers.
https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2026/02/is-ssp5-85-the-worst-case-scenario.html
AloeVera
(4,088 posts)IbogaProject
(5,724 posts)leftstreet
(39,646 posts)thx
IbogaProject
(5,724 posts)hatrack
(64,562 posts)Welcome to today's episode of "Shit Getting Really Fucking Real".
VGNonly
(8,442 posts)they form ice-like masses underwater. Cold water and low pressure keep them under check.
Methane in the atmosphere cause about 85x more damage than C02.
NickB79
(20,283 posts)Seas were 75' higher, spruce forests like those found in Minnesota grew at the North Pole, and alligators were living in the Midwest.
LudwigPastorius
(14,410 posts)We humans were a promising species, but we opted to boil our own oceans just for the LOLs.
VGNonly
(8,442 posts)In 20 years, extreme degradations. In 50 mass extinctions, maybe 5-10% of earth's inhabitants will still be alive.
NickB79
(20,283 posts)In the middle of February.
When it should be below zero.
This isn't normal.
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GP6971
(37,793 posts)surfered
(12,473 posts)Which can cause the polar vortex to wobble and move cold arctic air to non polar regions.
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surfered
(12,473 posts)VGNonly
(8,442 posts)The Earth could be 4-8c by 2100.
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senseandsensibility
(24,507 posts)that is rarely mentioned in the corporate media.
