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riversedge

(80,516 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:07 PM Feb 13

A man was harassing a woman in the elevator. See what she did.♥️

This creep might think twice before he harasses another woman!!--maybe!!

A man was harassing a woman in the elevator. See what she did.♥️


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A man was harassing a woman in the elevator. See what she did.♥️ (Original Post) riversedge Feb 13 OP
Good on her! 3catwoman3 Feb 13 #1
Think? BidenRocks Feb 13 #52
Sadly true. niyad Feb 13 #96
Well, yes, there is that. 3catwoman3 Feb 13 #97
It's all bdamomma Feb 13 #165
life can be challenging when you think with your dick. and so many of them do nt orleans Feb 13 #167
I had a biology professor in college that said something like that. WinstonSmith4740 Feb 14 #190
She beat the crap out of him !!!!!!! Yahooooo Trueblue1968 Feb 14 #191
Good LetMyPeopleVote Feb 13 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #3
Nah...and he won't report it anyhow. MineralMan Feb 13 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #9
How was she to know that? I would have been scared to death that he would attack again in that closed space. AnotherMother4Peace Feb 13 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #32
What leads you to assert a momentarily lowered head removes all threat? Torchlight Feb 13 #34
Are you really going to ask a sexual assault victim BidenRocks Feb 13 #60
I included an excerpt from the post I responded to Torchlight Feb 13 #61
Perhaps quotation marks might have avoided confusion. I knew niyad Feb 13 #92
Bet you that those who are trying to give the assaulter protection are not female. efhmc Feb 13 #102
Definitely. MorbidButterflyTat Feb 13 #115
You underestimate the danger she was in ninjanurse Feb 13 #133
Now is that clearly no longer a threat in your eyes or hers? usedtobedemgurl Feb 14 #214
Same as emptying a magazine RoseTrellis Feb 14 #205
Shooting someone is a bit more damaging than a groin kick Attilatheblond Feb 14 #207
Hoooo boy, some of them, for sure... electric_blue68 Feb 15 #234
Don't think he'll be pressing charges, but if he does, my money is on her. Joinfortmill Feb 13 #17
Maybe a little overkill is what he needed. GaYellowDawg Feb 13 #18
IMO if she stopped short of debilitating him until the doors opened, this story would have a different ending. Hope22 Feb 14 #220
I am guessing that it must be difficult to be a woman within your circle of niyad Feb 13 #27
Absolutely! SheltieLover Feb 13 #49
What would Krusty Gnome have done?? BattleRow Feb 13 #66
Pulled out her gun? niyad Feb 13 #98
What man would touch Kristie Gnome? maxrandb Feb 13 #124
Well, there is at least one. Wednesdays Feb 13 #131
We can't count her plastic surgeon. :-) nt spooky3 Feb 13 #175
By all reports: Corey Lewandowski ShazzieB Feb 14 #179
I hear she has had him pegged from the very beginning. MineralMan Feb 14 #223
Nominated for best reply of the century. Maybe Ilsa Feb 13 #71
I am deeply honoured, thank you. My first reaction was unprintable. niyad Feb 13 #87
+1 leftstreet Feb 13 #108
+2 Permanut Feb 13 #118
Great response niyad Brenda Feb 13 #138
Thank you. It took a bit to write calmly! niyad Feb 13 #140
It's been sad to see apologists here for decades. Brenda Feb 13 #142
I am absolutely not surprised, coming from that one Skittles Feb 14 #181
So disappointingly true. niyad Feb 14 #185
Bravo! BlueSpot Feb 14 #182
Thank you. niyad Feb 14 #186
THIS! And especially.... electric_blue68 Feb 15 #233
The Asshole was groping a woman in an elevator. MineralMan Feb 13 #69
I agree liberalgunwilltravel Feb 13 #95
Some people respond as if it's not the real world people live in. MineralMan Feb 13 #101
Thank you for mentioning training in self defense oberle Feb 13 #169
She made it quite clear after the 1st kacekwl Feb 13 #80
Nobody is immobilized by one woman's kick to the groin synni Feb 13 #88
No it wasn't and her defense was exactly as women are trained to do when being assaulted ms liberty Feb 13 #120
Not from my viewpoint Sanity Claws Feb 13 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #14
You wholly ignore 'Reasonable Fear' Torchlight Feb 13 #20
The fact that she was trapped & couldn't escape changed the situation, IMO. CrispyQ Feb 13 #29
....... bluestarone Feb 13 #38
And she reasoned that he needed a little more reason not to re-attack. MineralMan Feb 13 #74
Your concern for the sexual predator is noted. chia Feb 13 #119
if a guy touches me uninvited Skittles Feb 14 #183
Sorry, he had ample opportunity to act in an adult and civil manner Torchlight Feb 13 #11
He put hands on her mcar Feb 13 #22
He wasn't going to stop The Blue Flower Feb 13 #26
That's right mcar Feb 13 #160
He put his hands on her TWICE Seinan Sensei Feb 13 #45
She had every reason to believe he wouldn't stop mcar Feb 13 #161
Is there a legal limit on beating a potential rapist to the floor? I saw no blood, body parts were still attached irisblue Feb 13 #23
Even if in a place with a "duty to flee" IbogaProject Feb 13 #25
Not excessive at all Soul_of_Wit Feb 13 #30
If that was done to my Daughter or my Wife Seinan Sensei Feb 13 #50
Nope. She's got it on video. He was warned. thought crime Feb 13 #33
LOL don't you ever watch scary movies? leftstreet Feb 13 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #43
Sorry. Your post is just so tone deaf leftstreet Feb 13 #48
Self-defense, not aggression. niyad Feb 13 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #57
What then is the precise point at which defense ends and aggression begins? Torchlight Feb 13 #59
see post 27 niyad Feb 13 #82
It's not a free pass for anything. Aristus Feb 13 #93
Unlimited aggression? MontanaMama Feb 13 #99
The problem is MorbidButterflyTat Feb 13 #117
Unlimited aggression would have been empting a full magazine on his self entitled ass. Attilatheblond Feb 14 #212
Ah, correct! leftstreet Feb 13 #58
And I am so FUCKING PISSED at the misogynistic, patriarchal BS niyad Feb 13 #109
Misogyny is Patriarchy's oxygen leftstreet Feb 13 #110
Absolutely! SheltieLover Feb 13 #67
Stiletto to the eyes face would be an effective response. irisblue Feb 13 #84
There was a reason I used to wear 4-inch heels when I was in public. niyad Feb 13 #125
Stick him with a Hat Pin! BidenRocks Feb 13 #152
Very true. I don't wear hats, since my sunglasses are usually there if I niyad Feb 13 #156
Somehow I think that kick to the balls Hope22 Feb 14 #208
There isn't a jury on this planet that would convict her. cloudbase Feb 13 #42
He was lucky she didn't pull out a pistol. Nt spooky3 Feb 13 #70
Sadly, you are overly optimistic about juries. I have seen too many niyad Feb 13 #126
Indeed. Some of the posts beggar belief. cloudbase Feb 13 #127
Sadly true! niyad Feb 13 #129
It absolutely is not obamanut2012 Feb 13 #53
If she were a man... Dear_Prudence Feb 13 #54
Killing him would have been excessive use of force Random Boomer Feb 13 #56
And I hope she reported him to the police. Nt spooky3 Feb 13 #72
He assaulted her, she moved away, he assaulted her again Justice Feb 14 #192
He put his hands on her. She had no idea what was next. Irish_Dem Feb 13 #62
What legal standpoint? fujiyamasan Feb 13 #65
Thank you for pointing that out. niyad Feb 13 #128
Not a problem fujiyamasan Feb 13 #145
I heard that some Japanese rail lines BidenRocks Feb 13 #157
While that is helpful to a degree, it does not address the problem niyad Feb 14 #197
All this. electric_blue68 Feb 15 #235
This would be a good training video ! thought crime Feb 13 #171
She was trapped in a box with a man who assaulted her. LuckyCharms Feb 13 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #75
You're very wrong. LuckyCharms Feb 13 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #86
I think you're confusing rejections of your assertions with "being upset" Torchlight Feb 13 #90
Snicker Brenda Feb 13 #139
Oh, jeez. I'm late to this thread. He really said women were "being upset" because we object to demands Scrivener7 Feb 16 #240
Oh, I'm not upset at all. LuckyCharms Feb 13 #100
She turned and pushed a button BidenRocks Feb 13 #158
Even if it was staged, only good can come from images of women fighting back. Scrivener7 Feb 16 #241
See post 27. Keep digging that hole, dear heart. It is such a good look for you. niyad Feb 13 #130
Damn straight niyad. MontanaMama Feb 14 #213
I am angry, and disgusted. niyad Feb 14 #215
As we should be. MontanaMama Feb 14 #216
EXACTLY!!! niyad Feb 14 #221
If you are in that situation, you have every reason to believe someone is going to try and rape you. FascismIsDeath Feb 14 #189
She was always at risk of him strangling her. Taller/ heavier Hope22 Feb 14 #218
"Excessive" would have been another two or three kicks to his nuts. GoCubsGo Feb 13 #76
Nope. MontanaMama Feb 13 #91
+1 for the blame comment. - nt CrispyQ Feb 13 #159
She should've shouted "but the DOW is over fifty thousand" Shambala Feb 13 #114
Snicker niyad Feb 13 #132
Snort! electric_blue68 Feb 15 #236
Public Service Notice ninjanurse Feb 13 #134
Not sure about this because she would surely have been in fear of her life. He assaulted her by PatrickforB Feb 13 #154
Well, if that had gone to trial and she was in the dock on assault charges, and I were on the jury... Jedi Guy Feb 14 #178
I don't think so. A man is bigger and stronger than a woman, so she would be justified in fearing that if she didn't tblue37 Feb 14 #184
A women who was assaulted in a confined space she cannot readily retreat from can/should use all the force she can Attilatheblond Feb 14 #206
Golly, maybe if he had smiled more she wouldn't have felt the need to fiercely defend herself until she could escape Attilatheblond Feb 14 #210
Yes. Because he could catch more flies with honey than with a creepy sexual assault in an elevator. Scrivener7 Feb 16 #239
Really? She was still stuck in there with him LearnedHand Feb 14 #227
Oh, for fuck's sakes. No, it wasn't excessive force. She did exactly the right thing. Scrivener7 Feb 15 #232
Hope she left some lasting damage dalton99a Feb 13 #4
And That's How You Do It! MineralMan Feb 13 #5
She really dealt with that assaulter but hope she also called security and police to protect other less capable women. MLAA Feb 13 #6
The fact that we are seeing the video... Soul_of_Wit Feb 13 #36
I'm pretty sure a lot of elevators have security cameras in them. MineralMan Feb 13 #78
I assumed it was security video Soul_of_Wit Feb 14 #209
Yes. They only look at them if there is an incident. MineralMan Feb 14 #211
That was the perfect place to put my last heart. 1WorldHope Feb 13 #8
K&R! Torchlight Feb 13 #12
Good for her! SheltieLover Feb 13 #13
Whoa, don't know if this is real, but I'm gonna use her moves! Joinfortmill Feb 13 #16
He (and Trump) need a dictionary that explain what "No!" means. Ping Tung Feb 13 #19
From 2016, apparently woman is a Beijing TV host and actress. betsuni Feb 13 #21
Thank you for this. I thought it looked a bit familiar. Still relevant. niyad Feb 13 #135
My first thought was AI slop. Thanks for the post. Monsieur_Grumpe Feb 14 #196
I wish more women/girls had more situational awareness. irisblue Feb 13 #24
A friend asked me once why I do not use headphones when I am niyad Feb 13 #39
Holy shit that was pretty badass! fujiyamasan Feb 13 #28
Bravo! You go, girl! Vinca Feb 13 #31
BRAVA!!! niyad Feb 13 #37
I do not know whether this was staged (as I remember a similar video niyad Feb 13 #35
Excessive force, Maj. Dude Feb 13 #41
Well done! UpInArms Feb 13 #44
This seems staged. However, IF this video teaches or inspires a woman to: flvegan Feb 13 #46
What more do we know about this? I think it looks like... QueerDuck Feb 13 #47
There is a (possibly apocryphal) story from many years ago in the London tube dickthegrouch Feb 13 #55
She was in danger with no ability to flee until the door opened Ritabert Feb 13 #63
And THAT, my dears, is how it is DONE!!!!! hamsterjill Feb 13 #64
I celebrate her quick reactions--and good aim! hlthe2b Feb 13 #73
Good for her. He has no business putting hands on her. She did excellent. Don't minimize. Srkdqltr Feb 13 #79
Possibly fake video Tasmanian Devil Feb 13 #81
Nope. That is a camera mounted in the ceiling of the elevator car. MineralMan Feb 13 #104
well, i guess i could smile at the camera next time i'm in an elevator -- but i don't think it'll show up very good orleans Feb 13 #168
Looks fake to me. There's a lot of this stuff getting posted in the "reels" Liberal In Texas Feb 13 #107
So.... MorbidButterflyTat Feb 13 #113
LOL! ShazzieB Feb 14 #180
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 13 #116
Wut? Brenda Feb 13 #147
And the only rec for this post calling it AI slop is Brenda Feb 13 #143
Please ... Tasmanian Devil Feb 13 #153
This looks so fake Chicagogrl1 Feb 13 #83
It's fake. They're both amateur actors. Made to be click-bait and passed all over social media. Liberal In Texas Feb 13 #149
Fake or not, if only something like that had happened to a convicted 34-count... the nelm Feb 13 #170
Staged or not, it shows women a course of action in such a situation. niyad Feb 14 #225
The "well actually" crowd is in the building mcar Feb 14 #228
Yes, but this is about women protecting themselves. The very idea niyad Feb 14 #229
Yes, they have to be totally aware of what they are doing mcar Feb 14 #230
ggrrrrrrr niyad Feb 14 #231
I can't believe that the guy thought that would work. mjvpi Feb 13 #85
He got what's coming to him. bluescribbler Feb 13 #89
She did a fine job. Swede Feb 13 #94
should have kicked him once more when he was down moonshinegnomie Feb 13 #103
It looks rehearsed. Omnipresent Feb 13 #105
"She allowed him...." MorbidButterflyTat Feb 13 #111
I never suggested she put herself in a corner. Omnipresent Feb 14 #194
And if he came at her again when her back was against the wall, she could have been trapped. ShazzieB Feb 13 #151
My point is that most people want to see who is lurking around behind them. Omnipresent Feb 14 #193
Convince me this isn't staged misanthrope Feb 13 #106
Staged or scripted Tasmanian Devil Feb 13 #112
I don't care if it's staged or not. Dem_in_Nebr. Feb 13 #121
Yeah, even if it was staged or faked, I think it was informative. ShazzieB Feb 14 #187
And THAT is how it's done. Javaman Feb 13 #122
If i am alone on an elevator and a MineralMan Feb 13 #123
Used to be a tip of the Fedora. BidenRocks Feb 13 #173
Well, don't expect a tip of the MAGA cap. MineralMan Feb 14 #200
I've watched the video a couple of times and IMO no jury would convict her LogDog75 Feb 13 #136
FAFO Timewas Feb 13 #137
I also agree that no jury would convict her. HeartsCanHope Feb 13 #141
She was in an enclosed space with someone making unwanted advances, with no way to know how far he was going DFW Feb 13 #146
Right on. Tactical Peek Feb 13 #144
Not been Rebl2 Feb 13 #148
Same here. And I did not get on an elevator if there was a lone man there. niyad Feb 13 #150
Think back to 2016 canetoad Feb 13 #155
That's about how old this staged video is. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 13 #162
Really? canetoad Feb 13 #163
I'll have to remember that move! ShazzieB Feb 14 #188
Can you just imagine the hysteria had she done so? niyad Feb 14 #217
That... I partly (at the least) wished she'd said "Get the hell way from me!" electric_blue68 Feb 15 #237
Women bdamomma Feb 13 #164
And boy will it be tough in our new burkas! Nt Hope22 Feb 14 #219
Unless bdamomma Feb 14 #224
I look good in red.. Hope22 Feb 14 #226
If real, she did exactly the right thing. chowmama Feb 13 #166
'Bought 9-10 years ago, my husband broke up a dude from hitting the dude's girlfriend. chouchou Feb 13 #172
She should have nailed him even more. Make him a eunuch. BigmanPigman Feb 13 #174
Good for her! ABC123Easy Feb 13 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Feb 14 #177
excellent job. pansypoo53219 Feb 14 #195
Busting his nuts! Smart move. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 14 #198
Violence is good as long as we agree with the outcome AZLD4Candidate Feb 14 #199
Good for Her!! She walloped an Epstein Jr. !! It appears she is trained blue-wave Feb 14 #201
ouch... myohmy2 Feb 14 #202
Just make sure you hurt them bad enough they can't follow you. Linda ladeewolf Feb 14 #203
That looked super choreographed LoveSucky Feb 14 #204
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 14 #222
Good on her! Either real (effin' bastard wouldn't take no), or staged as training. electric_blue68 Feb 15 #238

3catwoman3

(29,239 posts)
1. Good on her!
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:11 PM
Feb 13

Maybe he'll think twice before trying that crap again.

Why do men (obviously not all) think it is OK to do this?

3catwoman3

(29,239 posts)
97. Well, yes, there is that.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:42 PM
Feb 13

I sometimes wonder if there was not some behavioral control gene that was on the part of the Y chromosome that looks like it broke off and that why the chromosome is smaller. The male of the species seems, generally speaking, to get into so much more trouble than women.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,431 posts)
190. I had a biology professor in college that said something like that.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 02:59 AM
Feb 14

He thought women were biologically stronger than men...not physically, biologically. For example, women live longer, and are less susceptible to disease. Genetic issues that take 2 recessive genes in a woman only take one in a man...that kind of thing. He felt there was an immunity factor missing from the Y chromosome, and that was basically his theory...it's smaller and looks like an X chromosome with a leg missing.
And as I tell my students, the older I get, the more I believe it. There's just something missing there!

Response to riversedge (Original post)

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
7. Nah...and he won't report it anyhow.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:17 PM
Feb 13

Yeah, that woman beat the crap out of me! Arrest Her!

Response to MineralMan (Reply #7)

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,104 posts)
15. How was she to know that? I would have been scared to death that he would attack again in that closed space.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:30 PM
Feb 13

Response to AnotherMother4Peace (Reply #15)

Torchlight

(6,715 posts)
34. What leads you to assert a momentarily lowered head removes all threat?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:09 PM
Feb 13
Peace Wave: He never raised his head again after the kick to the crotch. He clearly was no longer a threat.

BidenRocks

(3,167 posts)
60. Are you really going to ask a sexual assault victim
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:38 PM
Feb 13

to show more restraint than ICE?

This threat is over when he is dead!

Sorry, he could get up looking to kill.

Victims are just that. If they lose their mind, fine.

They don't operate under ANY ROE.

If only E. Jean did that to chump!

niyad

(131,749 posts)
92. Perhaps quotation marks might have avoided confusion. I knew
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:38 PM
Feb 13

that you were quoting because I am still seething about the entire post from which you quoted.

ninjanurse

(129 posts)
133. You underestimate the danger she was in
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:17 PM
Feb 13

She still had to get out of that elevator and now he’s real mad. But since you’ll never have to face a threat like that you can keep explaining why she didn’t do it right.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,010 posts)
214. Now is that clearly no longer a threat in your eyes or hers?
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:47 PM
Feb 14

I am a rape survivor and have PTSD. Are you saying that if I kept hitting a man, even if I was in the middle of a PTSD episode, I should find a way to stop myself when therapists cannot even help me? And take it from a woman, a strange man is always a threat no matter how disabled he may seem. I have heard cops talk about perps on drugs and hos they just keep coming. You are seriously saying she should have risked her life just because you say so? You want that woman to get hurt? Because it may be too late for her once he rises up.

RoseTrellis

(157 posts)
205. Same as emptying a magazine
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:32 PM
Feb 14

That’s the same rationale cops use when they shoot people multiple times and empty their magazines into them….
🙄

Attilatheblond

(8,710 posts)
207. Shooting someone is a bit more damaging than a groin kick
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:46 PM
Feb 14

Last edited Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Emptying a magazine is a bit different that punching until the opportunity to escape becomes available.

Men are generally stronger than most women. Pissed off men are especially dangerous to women. In a confined space with not immediate escape? That woman was in more danger after the groin kick. Kudos to whoever coached her to keep swinging. For all she knew she was fighting for her life, a concept few men seem to understand about how dangerous other men can be to women who refuse their attentions.

edited due to not hitting the n key in the word men

electric_blue68

(26,736 posts)
234. Hoooo boy, some of them, for sure...
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 08:55 PM
Feb 15
"For all she knew she was fighting for her life, a concept few men seem to understand about how dangerous other men can be to women who refuse their attentions.".

Hope22

(4,676 posts)
220. IMO if she stopped short of debilitating him until the doors opened, this story would have a different ending.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 02:58 PM
Feb 14

He needed to stay the F down or face more of the same! I’m thankful that she was prepared. For all we know this was not her first assault!

niyad

(131,749 posts)
27. I am guessing that it must be difficult to be a woman within your circle of
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:00 PM
Feb 13

acquaintance, given your posted strict and narrow "legal"standards of what a woman is alllowed to do when she is being assaulted. Your posted repeated lack of care and concern for the safety and well-being of the intended victim in that video are duly noted, as is your clearly-evidenced concern for the assaulter. In case you did not notice, even after she struck him, he kept coming at her. She did not know if he was armed, what he was capable of doing, what he intended.

GOOD FOR HER!!! Since our laws are so fucking patriarchal, and rapists and rape protectors are now blatantly in charge, it seems like the only way we can protect ourselves is to be able to beat the crap out of anyone intent on harm. Apologists be damned.

Ilsa

(64,251 posts)
71. Nominated for best reply of the century. Maybe
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:06 PM
Feb 13

someone will do better in the next 74 years, but I doubt it.

He didn't simply harass her, he assaulted her by trying to grab her breast.

I wish someone had shown "El Jefe" in the WH who was boss 60 years ago.

Brenda

(2,025 posts)
138. Great response niyad
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:27 PM
Feb 13

Although I wonder if this happened in the US? Doesn't matter, the woman's response was EXCELLENT!

But about those "apologists" ... there are quite a few around here.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
140. Thank you. It took a bit to write calmly!
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:34 PM
Feb 13

From several posts downthread, Beijing, I believe.

Yes, sad to see the apologists here.

electric_blue68

(26,736 posts)
233. THIS! And especially....
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 08:46 PM
Feb 15
THIS!!

(my underline)
"and rapists and rape protectors are now blatantly in charge"."

&%@^@^÷%$+#×@#%!!!
And good for her!

(glad I enjoyed most of my Fri, Sat & Sun without sering this.)

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
69. The Asshole was groping a woman in an elevator.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:03 PM
Feb 13

I don't much care if she gave him a little more to think about. She left unharmed. When you're being attacked by someone who is bigger and stronger than you are, take the extra step to give you more time to escape.

I'm not a fighter. However, my father gave me some advice when I was a teenager. He said, "If some stranger physically attacks you, assume he's trying to kill you. Immobilize and stop him as quickly and effectively as you can. Then get the hell away from him."

I don't know who taught you about situations like she was in. She did the right thing for her safety. He'll survive.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,182 posts)
95. I agree
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:41 PM
Feb 13

And if she had a firearm with a 10-shot capacity and shot him 10 times, when asked by police why she shot him 10 times, the correct answer is, "I only had 10 bullets."

The bottom line is, he started it. She finished it. And in finishing it the way she did, she may have prevented other women from the same type of attack.

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
101. Some people respond as if it's not the real world people live in.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:49 PM
Feb 13

In the real world, some strange man physically groping you in an elevator is a very dangerous assault if you are a woman. You have no idea what his intentions might be. Women, in general, are at a physical disadvantage in situations like that. Fortunately, she has apparently had some training in self defense. She used it to prevent any further assault and then exited the elevator ASAP.

She immobilized him and went one step further to make sure he could not attack her again. Perfectly justified in the circumstances. She escapes unharmed and he gets an object lesson through learning that not all women are helpless and weak. Perhaps, as you suggest, he will learn from this. I doubt it, though. Instead, he'll probably use more immediate force the next time.

I'm surprised that anyone is attempting to blame her for her actions. Screw that!

oberle

(342 posts)
169. Thank you for mentioning training in self defense
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 10:21 PM
Feb 13

I urge all women of any age to take self defense classes, or better yet, martial arts. It gives you the skills and the confidence to take on anything that happens.

kacekwl

(9,095 posts)
80. She made it quite clear after the 1st
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:18 PM
Feb 13

assault so to try again the gloves come off and being in a closed space nothing is overkill until that door opens and you're gone.

synni

(760 posts)
88. Nobody is immobilized by one woman's kick to the groin
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:33 PM
Feb 13

Unless she is very physically fit and trained in martial arts, she is simply not capable of incapacitating a man with a single kick. The fact that he was still standing indicates that he was still a threat. The only way she would know that he was no longer a threat would be if he hit the floor. She left as soon as he did.

ms liberty

(11,175 posts)
120. No it wasn't and her defense was exactly as women are trained to do when being assaulted
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:58 PM
Feb 13

Smack him hard in the face, kick him in the crotch and a quick, sharp knee to the head.
You disable and injure the attacker as much as possible in order to give yourself a chance to escape.
That woman was being sexualky assaulted in a small enclosed space. There was no being nice. There was survival or assault. She did exactly what she needed to do.

Sanity Claws

(22,401 posts)
10. Not from my viewpoint
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:20 PM
Feb 13

She was still stuck in a closed space with him and had to disable him. She left as soon as the door opened.

Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #10)

Torchlight

(6,715 posts)
20. You wholly ignore 'Reasonable Fear'
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:39 PM
Feb 13

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And that she had zero opportunity to retreat.

Peace Wave: The legal standard for self-defense allows individuals to use "reasonable, proportional force."

CrispyQ

(40,893 posts)
29. The fact that she was trapped & couldn't escape changed the situation, IMO.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:04 PM
Feb 13

That's what I'd argue as an attorney, & as a juror, I'd buy it, even if the judge said not to. Just sayin'. It was clear what his intent was & that he wasn't going to take her NO.

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
74. And she reasoned that he needed a little more reason not to re-attack.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:07 PM
Feb 13

You're sounding a little strange about this situation. Why do you hold that woman who got groped in an elevator to such a standard?

Skittles

(171,126 posts)
183. if a guy touches me uninvited
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:37 AM
Feb 14

ALL BETS ARE OFF

hell, I smashed a guys toes with my combat boot just for something he SAID to me

Torchlight

(6,715 posts)
11. Sorry, he had ample opportunity to act in an adult and civil manner
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:24 PM
Feb 13

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Consequences are a tough thing for a lot of people to stand up to... he certainly couldn't.


Peace WAVE: Sorry, but from a legal standpoint, that's got to be excessive use of force.

The Blue Flower

(6,454 posts)
26. He wasn't going to stop
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:57 PM
Feb 13

He just wasn't going to get the point. Good for her. Leaving him incapacitated on the floor was her only recourse.

mcar

(45,921 posts)
161. She had every reason to believe he wouldn't stop
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 09:08 PM
Feb 13

She defended herself. The idea that she should have held back when he certainly wouldn't have is just bizarre.

irisblue

(37,335 posts)
23. Is there a legal limit on beating a potential rapist to the floor? I saw no blood, body parts were still attached
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:52 PM
Feb 13

IbogaProject

(5,805 posts)
25. Even if in a place with a "duty to flee"
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:56 PM
Feb 13

She was trapped with him and we don't know what he said during any of it.

Soul_of_Wit

(81 posts)
30. Not excessive at all
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:04 PM
Feb 13

He laid hands on her. They were in a confined space. If he was still capable of moving, then he deserved every blow. She retreated when she was able to do so. Defending oneself is a winner with juries almost every time.

Seinan Sensei

(1,503 posts)
50. If that was done to my Daughter or my Wife
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:27 PM
Feb 13

Her response to him would be the bare minimum I would wish for

leftstreet

(40,193 posts)
40. LOL don't you ever watch scary movies?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:19 PM
Feb 13

Audiences will tell you how often they yell at the heroine on the screen,

"No, no, don't just hit him and run away! He'll get back up!! Finish the fucker off"


Response to leftstreet (Reply #40)

leftstreet

(40,193 posts)
48. Sorry. Your post is just so tone deaf
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:25 PM
Feb 13

Debating a responsible level of aggression from a woman trapped in an elevator with a man who's put his hands on her

I mean

Response to niyad (Reply #51)

Torchlight

(6,715 posts)
59. What then is the precise point at which defense ends and aggression begins?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:38 PM
Feb 13

How is that defined, and does this apply to all circumstances or simply this one?




This is the problem. Self defense doesn't permit you to then become an aggressor.

Aristus

(72,062 posts)
93. It's not a free pass for anything.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:39 PM
Feb 13

But as long as a women is in an enclosed space with an aggressor, anything and everything is permissible for her to ensure her own safety. If a guy doesn't want to sustain massive bodily injury from a woman defending herself, he can make the rather easy choice to leave her alone, and not attack her.

I really thought it was less complicated than you are insisting on making it.

MontanaMama

(24,707 posts)
99. Unlimited aggression?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:43 PM
Feb 13

She absolutely had to disable him to the point where he didn't come back at her. If he had been able to do that, she might be dead. But thanks for mansplaining how she should have gone easy on this degenerate. Good grief.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,424 posts)
117. The problem is
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:31 PM
Feb 13
male entitlement.

Women are not playthings for men to do with whatever they want.

If he had shown some basic decency and respect and kept his filthy hands to himself, he wouldn't have gotten his ass beat.

Simple.

Attilatheblond

(8,710 posts)
212. Unlimited aggression would have been empting a full magazine on his self entitled ass.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:36 PM
Feb 14

Since adrenaline is a helluva short term pain killer, he could have been momentarily stunned but come back at her in a rage before she could escape.

Women in this culture see how being 'feminine' and nurturing can be a ticket to the morgue when dealing with men who do not know how to respect others/

leftstreet

(40,193 posts)
58. Ah, correct!
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:38 PM
Feb 13

An important distinction, thank you.

Although clearly some people see aggression rather than self-defense and can instantly change the narrative.

(You're so sharp!)

niyad

(131,749 posts)
109. And I am so FUCKING PISSED at the misogynistic, patriarchal BS
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:03 PM
Feb 13

women have to contend with in defending ourselves in this culture of rapists, rapist protectors, and general woman-haters.

Tomorrow is V-Day, Ending Violence Against Women and Girls.One Billion Rising is a worldwide group trying to end this culture of woman-hating. One Billion stands for the ONE IN THREE FEMALES WORLDWIDE who will be the victim of sexual assault/violence. One female every two minutes is sexually assaulted in this country.

leftstreet

(40,193 posts)
110. Misogyny is Patriarchy's oxygen
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:09 PM
Feb 13

As you well know

Since so many people will keep breathing it without seeing it, your diligence and willingness to constantly expose it here is beyond valuable



irisblue

(37,335 posts)
84. Stiletto to the eyes face would be an effective response.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:29 PM
Feb 13

Peace Wave, you are just at the bone wrong here.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
156. Very true. I don't wear hats, since my sunglasses are usually there if I
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:37 PM
Feb 13

am not actually wearing them. When Ii used to wear blazers, the hatpins were in the lapels!

We could talk about my purse!!!

Hope22

(4,676 posts)
208. Somehow I think that kick to the balls
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:49 PM
Feb 14

Packed a much bigger punch. While I don’t wish this woman had to suffer this. She is most certainly my hero. All young women should have training on this order so they will be safe at all ages.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
126. Sadly, you are overly optimistic about juries. I have seen too many
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:05 PM
Feb 13

cases where juries are patriarchal assholes, male and female. There are reasons so many women do not report assaults/rape., they know the horror they would be facing. Just look at some of the posts in this thread.

Dear_Prudence

(1,158 posts)
54. If she were a man...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:33 PM
Feb 13

How would a man have reacted if another man stalked him, menaced him, and laid hands on him in an enclosed space? I believe the perp would have had a broken nose in addition to the injuries the woman inflicted. Walk a mile in HER shoes...

Random Boomer

(4,401 posts)
56. Killing him would have been excessive use of force
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:34 PM
Feb 13

Resoundingly disabling him (in the moment) was quite appropriate.

He approached her first and did not accept her rebuff. He then approached again and ESCALATED into assault by putting his hand on her in an enclosed space.

She neutralized him, but left him still alive. Sounds just about right to me.

Justice

(7,254 posts)
192. He assaulted her, she moved away, he assaulted her again
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 05:00 AM
Feb 14

She defended herself.

His actions were assaults, not approaches.

Irish_Dem

(80,854 posts)
62. He put his hands on her. She had no idea what was next.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:42 PM
Feb 13

She has a right to defend herself from SA.

fujiyamasan

(1,600 posts)
65. What legal standpoint?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:47 PM
Feb 13

Apparently this wasn’t even in the US.

This kind of weird shit could happen anywhere in the world to women. What I like is she didn’t stand around taking it.

fujiyamasan

(1,600 posts)
145. Not a problem
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:47 PM
Feb 13

I don’t know if this woman had any formal training but I think it’s smart for women to take self defense classes.

BidenRocks

(3,167 posts)
157. I heard that some Japanese rail lines
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:41 PM
Feb 13

have female only cars.
Seems the drunk businessmen are handsy.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
197. While that is helpful to a degree, it does not address the problem
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 09:53 AM
Feb 14

of misogynistic cultures that give men permission/approval to assault women. Instead of being able to move freely in society, women are segregated, restricted, their movements curtailed.

LuckyCharms

(22,490 posts)
68. She was trapped in a box with a man who assaulted her.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:00 PM
Feb 13

If she had killed him for it, she would have been justified.

I've told my wife that if she is ever in a situation like that where she can't get away, her goal is not to hurt the perpetrator, her goal is to kill him. With that mindset, her goal is to fight like she is fighting for her life, and she is not to stop until the person is unconscious. If he dies during that process, so be it. You want her to stop her self-defense when she is unsure if he could reach into his waistband at pull out a gun?

Her goal is to eliminate the threat to her. How is that woman supposed to know that the man is not armed with a gun or a knife?

He's lucky she didn't kill him.

You are expecting her to make a split second decision not to try to kill him when she is literally trapped? Unable to run? No help at all possible? She presumably is not an armed officer of the law. She's a WOMAN TRAPPED IN A CLOSED BOX WITH A MAN WHO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED HER.

Can you see a jury convicting her?

I can't.




Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #68)

Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #77)

Torchlight

(6,715 posts)
90. I think you're confusing rejections of your assertions with "being upset"
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:36 PM
Feb 13

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Peace Wave: No. I'm right and no amount of being upset at me...

Scrivener7

(59,332 posts)
240. Oh, jeez. I'm late to this thread. He really said women were "being upset" because we object to demands
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:10 AM
Feb 16

that we treat attackers gently?

Do these men hear themselves?

Good god. There's no getting away from them.

LuckyCharms

(22,490 posts)
100. Oh, I'm not upset at all.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:44 PM
Feb 13

The goal is to eliminate a perceived threat.

The first and best option is to put distance between yourself and the threat.

That is not possible in an elevator, is it? Where are you going to run to in an elevator? To the other corner?

Are you going to scream for help in an elevator, when seconds matter?

How are you certain that a person who you are TRAPPED IN AN ELEVATOR WITH, WHO TRIED TO GRAB YOUR BREAST AND TOUCHED YOU TWICE, is not trying to kill you?

Even if this was staged, my point is that the woman had a split second to make a decision.

She stopped when she was able to escape. If the door was not able to be opened, she should have continued until he was dead, or old cold with certainty.

What if that elevator had another 40 floors to travel until the door was able to be opened? Still think she went too far?

Scrivener7

(59,332 posts)
241. Even if it was staged, only good can come from images of women fighting back.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:17 AM
Feb 16

Both for a woman seeing it, so maybe it's what goes through her head in the split second she has to defend herself, and for a man to see it who might consider "having a little fun" while pressing his strength advantage when alone with a woman in a vulnerable position.

His actions were obviously meant to instill fear and paralyze her. It's great to see that not working.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
130. See post 27. Keep digging that hole, dear heart. It is such a good look for you.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:14 PM
Feb 13

For the sake of the female victim I hope you are never on a jury for any case involving assault, sexual assault, or rape.

MontanaMama

(24,707 posts)
213. Damn straight niyad.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:46 PM
Feb 14

Maybe I shouldn’t be shocked that we have a SA defender on DU but I am.

MontanaMama

(24,707 posts)
216. As we should be.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:53 PM
Feb 14

I am encouraged by the pushback on this thread but the fact that pushback is even necessary is disturbing.

FascismIsDeath

(145 posts)
189. If you are in that situation, you have every reason to believe someone is going to try and rape you.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 02:05 AM
Feb 14

Enough fucking said. If she accidentally killed him, I believe she would still be within her rights to self defense.

Hope22

(4,676 posts)
218. She was always at risk of him strangling her. Taller/ heavier
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 02:51 PM
Feb 14

She had to lay him out or retaliation could have been fatal for her. From the looks she has had solid self defense instruction. This would not have been the outcome for many women / girls.

GoCubsGo

(34,870 posts)
76. "Excessive" would have been another two or three kicks to his nuts.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:08 PM
Feb 13

Give me a fucking break.

MontanaMama

(24,707 posts)
91. Nope.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:37 PM
Feb 13

If she hadn't disabled him, he wouldn't have stopped his assault and then where would she be? Regardless, she gets blamed for doing too much or not doing enough. He's fortunate to be alive.

ninjanurse

(129 posts)
134. Public Service Notice
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:21 PM
Feb 13

If you are ever attacked in an elevator and have to physically fight someone much stronger than yourself who has demonstrated an intention to harm you, do not worry that you might get in trouble for being too rough. Use the maximum force you are able to before running away. Like my Sensei said, it’s better to be judged by 12 than carried out by 6.

PatrickforB

(15,409 posts)
154. Not sure about this because she would surely have been in fear of her life. He assaulted her by
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:31 PM
Feb 13

putting his arm around her shoulder, and it was the second time he touched her without her permission. She's alone, she doesn't know him and he assaulted her. She defended herself appropriately because men tend to be stronger than women and she needed to disable him without permanently harming him, which two good kicks in the scrotum will do.

Jedi Guy

(3,463 posts)
178. Well, if that had gone to trial and she was in the dock on assault charges, and I were on the jury...
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:18 AM
Feb 14

I'd look at it like this. If he'd kept his hands to himself she wouldn't have kneed his testicles hard enough to introduce them to his diaphragm. I would vote to acquit, to put it bluntly. And I'd be willing to bet heavily I wouldn't be the only juror who had that outlook.

In another timeline he kept his hands to himself. You might say he didn't fuck around and thus didn't find out.

In our timeline, sadly, he evidently never learned not to touch people without their consent, which is a lesson most of us learn in early childhood. She simply delivered that lesson in a forceful manner. Pain can sometimes be a very effective teacher, so perhaps this young fellow has learned a valuable lesson, even if belatedly.

Furthermore, the young lady had no idea of his intention. Maybe he "only" intended to grope. Maybe he intended to do a hell of a lot worse. She had no way of knowing and, for her own safety, had to assume the worst possible outcome was on the table and act accordingly.

I get into elevators with women all the time in my office building. I don't put my hands on them and they don't hit me. Imagine that.

tblue37

(68,414 posts)
184. I don't think so. A man is bigger and stronger than a woman, so she would be justified in fearing that if she didn't
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:38 AM
Feb 14

incapacitate him he might seriously harm or even kill her.

Attilatheblond

(8,710 posts)
206. A women who was assaulted in a confined space she cannot readily retreat from can/should use all the force she can
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:39 PM
Feb 14

Surprise is generally the one tool we have to deal with an attacker who is likely much stronger. And if the surprise is not debilitating enough, it is likely she will be beaten to a pulp if he recovers too soon and she has not found an escape.

Attilatheblond

(8,710 posts)
210. Golly, maybe if he had smiled more she wouldn't have felt the need to fiercely defend herself until she could escape
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:01 PM
Feb 14

Go talk to a self defense coach who teaches women how to stay alive in today's culture.

Scrivener7

(59,332 posts)
239. Yes. Because he could catch more flies with honey than with a creepy sexual assault in an elevator.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:02 AM
Feb 16

I love your post.

LearnedHand

(5,363 posts)
227. Really? She was still stuck in there with him
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 06:38 PM
Feb 14

The man is the perp and you’re pointing out how the woman protected herself wrong?? Do you see the problem with that stance? This is not the post in which to express a goddam thing about whether she was too violent.

Scrivener7

(59,332 posts)
232. Oh, for fuck's sakes. No, it wasn't excessive force. She did exactly the right thing.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 06:33 PM
Feb 15

Jesus H.

MLAA

(19,717 posts)
6. She really dealt with that assaulter but hope she also called security and police to protect other less capable women.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:16 PM
Feb 13

Soul_of_Wit

(81 posts)
36. The fact that we are seeing the video...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:10 PM
Feb 13

...makes it likely that the incident was reported (or was seen live by security.)

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
78. I'm pretty sure a lot of elevators have security cameras in them.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:10 PM
Feb 13

That's what this video looked like.

Soul_of_Wit

(81 posts)
209. I assumed it was security video
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 12:57 PM
Feb 14

Not all security feeds are live-monitored. A lot of security video is never looked at. Some video is auto-deleted after a short period of time.

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
211. Yes. They only look at them if there is an incident.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:35 PM
Feb 14

I don't know how often they over-write old video. Probably 24 -48 hours.

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
19. He (and Trump) need a dictionary that explain what "No!" means.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:38 PM
Feb 13

He didn't understand it the first time he grabbed her.

irisblue

(37,335 posts)
24. I wish more women/girls had more situational awareness.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 01:56 PM
Feb 13

From google

Situational awareness (SA) is the ability to perceive, understand, and predict environmental elements and events to make informed safety decisions. It involves monitoring surroundings to identify, analyze, and react to potential risks or hazards before they occur. Key components include perception (gathering data), comprehension (understanding meaning), and projection (anticipating future states).

niyad

(131,749 posts)
39. A friend asked me once why I do not use headphones when I am
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:14 PM
Feb 13

out and about. And I explained about SA. She had never heard of the concept. To my relief, she stopped using her headphones on her daily runs.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
35. I do not know whether this was staged (as I remember a similar video
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:09 PM
Feb 13

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having been), or real, but fucking assaulters need to understand that it is just possible that their intended victim just might be capable of kicking the crap out of them.

AND WE SHOULD BE TEACHING ALL FEMALES FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD ON TO BE ABLE TO DO EXACTLY THAT. At least, until the woman-haters in charge go back to physically limiting girls and women, as they have done for centuries.

Maj. Dude

(46 posts)
41. Excessive force,
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:19 PM
Feb 13

Could be said/used if she had CCW Permit and fired at him while he was doubled over tending to his hurt (testicles) feelings.
And she got out of there limiting her time with the creep.
I'd buy her her favorite beverage and laugh with her if she felt so inclined after a situation like that.
It would be her choice of course, because that's the way I was raised.

flvegan

(66,174 posts)
46. This seems staged. However, IF this video teaches or inspires a woman to:
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:24 PM
Feb 13

1. be always aware
2. take up some form of defensive/offensive training, to then;
3. defend oneself by any means necessary, and;
4. finish your opponent and then escape as necessary

That said, if the video isn't/wasn't staged, that was quite the ass kicking. Flawless victory!

QueerDuck

(1,554 posts)
47. What more do we know about this? I think it looks like...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:24 PM
Feb 13

... Inspirational fiction and a cautionary tale.

dickthegrouch

(4,473 posts)
55. There is a (possibly apocryphal) story from many years ago in the London tube
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:33 PM
Feb 13

Where a woman being assaulted in the crowded tube car, grabbed the man's hand, rapidly raised it high in the air and asked at the top of her lungs "To whom does this belong?"

Not possible in this situation, but a possibility for more public places. I am all for people de-escalating when they can, and defending themselves when they need to.

Srkdqltr

(9,666 posts)
79. Good for her. He has no business putting hands on her. She did excellent. Don't minimize.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:12 PM
Feb 13

Women need to know they should not put up with stuff like this.
Men should know there will be consequences.
None of this is cute or kidding. She did the absolutely right thing.

Tasmanian Devil

(134 posts)
81. Possibly fake video
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:24 PM
Feb 13

I am not an expert at fake videos, so I asked Gemini. You can obviously choose to believe or not, but remember just how much AI slop is taking over the Internet.

https://gemini.google.com

Any thoughts on if this video is faked?


And it responded that it was likely computer generated.

The video you're asking about is actually a high-quality **CGI (Computer-Generated Imagery) render**, not a real-life recording.

Here are the key reasons why it’s considered "faked" or, more accurately, digital art:

1. Visual "Perfection" : The lighting, shadows, and textures in the video are often slightly too smooth or consistent compared to real-world physics. Digital artists frequently use software like Unreal Engine 5 or Blender to create these hyper-realistic scenes, which can easily fool the eye on small smartphone screens.

2. Unnatural Camera Movement: If you look closely at the "handheld" camera shake, it often feels procedural—like a digital filter applied to a steady shot rather than the organic weight and momentum of a person holding a real camera.

3. Anomalies in Fine Detail: In these types of viral "is it real?" clips, you can often spot minor glitches (artifacts) where objects intersect, or where the reflections on surfaces don't perfectly match the surrounding environment.

4. The Source: This specific video has been widely circulated by accounts that specialize in showcasing "vibe" or "dreamcore" CGI environments. These artists create these short loops specifically to trigger a "liminal space" feeling or to test how realistic their rendering engines can get.

Verdict: It is a **digital creation**. While it's an impressive technical feat of 3D modeling and rendering, it does not exist in the physical world.

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
104. Nope. That is a camera mounted in the ceiling of the elevator car.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:58 PM
Feb 13

Look up next time you're in an elevator in a public building. There's a security camera up there, and it records continuously.

Gemini is just a freaking AI talking machine. It actually knows nothing. Again, look up next time you're in an elevator. And smile, you're on video.

orleans

(36,840 posts)
168. well, i guess i could smile at the camera next time i'm in an elevator -- but i don't think it'll show up very good
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 10:16 PM
Feb 13

under my mask

(i always wear a mask in public indoor places)



Liberal In Texas

(16,202 posts)
107. Looks fake to me. There's a lot of this stuff getting posted in the "reels"
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:00 PM
Feb 13

or on TikTok. It's amateur TV production. By claiming it's real video they can get more clicks and more people passing it on. Like here.

Response to Tasmanian Devil (Reply #81)

Brenda

(2,025 posts)
147. Wut?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:50 PM
Feb 13

Simply stirring up animus between genders?

You mean a video showing public assault of a woman by a man is just a political ploy? You do know that millions of women are sexually assaulted in every country every fucking day, right?

What do the primaries nine months from now have to do with the video being posted now?

Brenda

(2,025 posts)
143. And the only rec for this post calling it AI slop is
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:44 PM
Feb 13

the only one in this thread saying she is using excessive force.

In what country and by what legal standard?


Tasmanian Devil

(134 posts)
153. Please ...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:27 PM
Feb 13

I'm not saying attacking women in elevators is ok or that women don't have every right to fight back! I just have a negative reaction to clickbait and manipulation. To me (and I think a few others on this thread), this video appears to be to be a poorly choreographed fight scene, badly rendered by AI.

My purpose in pointing this out is to just try and raise the skepticism level on DU a little bit. Fake memes and AI slop is not helping.

Liberal In Texas

(16,202 posts)
149. It's fake. They're both amateur actors. Made to be click-bait and passed all over social media.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:55 PM
Feb 13

Lots of this kind of thing popping up like in FB reels and TikTok.

the nelm

(265 posts)
170. Fake or not, if only something like that had happened to a convicted 34-count...
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 10:44 PM
Feb 13

felon a few times in his life he might have learned something. Then again, self-entitled brat that he is, likely not.

mcar

(45,921 posts)
228. The "well actually" crowd is in the building
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 07:29 PM
Feb 14

I don't give AF if it's staged - it's an excellent tutorial for women/girls who may find themselves in a similar dangerous situation.

Kind of like training videos, right? No one complains that they are staged.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
229. Yes, but this is about women protecting themselves. The very idea
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 08:53 PM
Feb 14

and image apparently offends some people.

mcar

(45,921 posts)
230. Yes, they have to be totally aware of what they are doing
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 10:04 PM
Feb 14

and not go too far to hurt the poor menz who are assaulting them.

Omnipresent

(7,411 posts)
105. It looks rehearsed.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 03:59 PM
Feb 13

She kept her back to him twice.
It’s safer to keep your back to an elevator wall, to see where anyone is. She allowed him to creep up behind her twice.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,424 posts)
111. "She allowed him...."
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:19 PM
Feb 13

Sure.

If she had done as you suggested, she'd have been trapped in the back corner.

Staying close to the elevator doors was smart.

ShazzieB

(22,489 posts)
151. And if he came at her again when her back was against the wall, she could have been trapped.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:13 PM
Feb 13

Thanks but no thanks!

I mean, I think it depends. Positioning herself with her back to the wall when she first got on, yeah. He would have probably been less likely to anything if he'd had to walk up to her with her facing him. Also, I can see that turning her back on him once he made the first move wasn't a great idea. But backing up to the wall at that point could have gotten her trapped, so I think staying vigilant and being ready to respond as needed was a reasonable strategy at that point.

[EDIT:This comment has been edited because I got confused about who I was replying to at the time. I was on my phone, and I got lost in this long complicated thread trying to follow it on that tiny screen.]

Omnipresent

(7,411 posts)
193. My point is that most people want to see who is lurking around behind them.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 05:28 AM
Feb 14

Even animals would rather keep their eyes on a potential predator.

misanthrope

(9,473 posts)
106. Convince me this isn't staged
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:00 PM
Feb 13

Every move she used on him looks like those used in staged fighting for audiences and cameras.

Tasmanian Devil

(134 posts)
112. Staged or scripted
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 04:19 PM
Feb 13

The action looked comic-book level fake to me. My wager would be that Gemini is correct and this is computer generated. I thought it looked a lot like something I'd expect in a video game. But who knows, clickbait is everywhere.

Dem_in_Nebr.

(343 posts)
121. I don't care if it's staged or not.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:25 PM
Feb 13

Bottom line, women: this is how it's done.

I don't know whether call Ladies or Women.

ShazzieB

(22,489 posts)
187. Yeah, even if it was staged or faked, I think it was informative.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:56 AM
Feb 14

I initially wondered if it was some sort of training video showing women how we can defend ourselves in a situation like that..

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
123. If i am alone on an elevator and a
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:42 PM
Feb 13

Woman enters. I just say "Hi." Then I step to the front of the car opposite from the floor number buttons.

That's it. When I get to my floor, I step out and walk away.

I'm always aware that I might seem threatening in that situation.

MineralMan

(151,100 posts)
200. Well, don't expect a tip of the MAGA cap.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 10:57 AM
Feb 14

Tipping the hat was always a very civilized thing to do, I think.

LogDog75

(1,249 posts)
136. I've watched the video a couple of times and IMO no jury would convict her
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:23 PM
Feb 13

She was in a closed space with and being sexually assaulted. She hit him with a closed hand and almost sent him to the floor. He got up and took a step towards her. At that moment, he still posed a threat to her and she had the right to defend herself. She kicked him in the groin and he bent over, but not incapacitated, but he was still a danger to her so she kneed him in the head which sent him to the floor. At that point, he was no longer a threat and she was able to leave the elevator immediately when the doors opened.

Her movements look practices so I suspect that lady had some type of defensive training by the way she kicked him in the groin and then kneed him in the head.

HeartsCanHope

(1,637 posts)
141. I also agree that no jury would convict her.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:37 PM
Feb 13

She was sexually assaulted, alone in a closed space with the assailant, and I feel, took the steps

necessary to keep him from hurting her further. Kudos to her for standing up for herself.

DFW

(60,058 posts)
146. She was in an enclosed space with someone making unwanted advances, with no way to know how far he was going
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:48 PM
Feb 13

So, maybe he didn't have a knife or a taser. She shouldn't have to wait to find out.

Rebl2

(17,635 posts)
148. Not been
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 06:51 PM
Feb 13

On elevator in long while, but if I was the only woman on an elevator, and a man got on , I got off. That’s been years ago though.

canetoad

(20,666 posts)
155. Think back to 2016
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 08:31 PM
Feb 13

And how great it would have been if Hillary had done that to tsf when he lurked behind her at the debate.

canetoad

(20,666 posts)
163. Really?
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 09:25 PM
Feb 13

Can't believe I haven't seen it before, but there ya go.

Still, it's not an impossible situation. I've been forced to twist a guy's knackers till his eyes watered for grabbing my arse in a work situation. And I can give you his name if necessary.

ShazzieB

(22,489 posts)
188. I'll have to remember that move!
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 02:01 AM
Feb 14

I don't think I'd be able to put much force behind a kick, and that's if I didn't miss the target altogether. Twisting is much more my style!

bdamomma

(69,503 posts)
164. Women
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 09:39 PM
Feb 13

must learn self-defense moves in this most dangerous time. We will probably see more of this, sadly.

Hope22

(4,676 posts)
226. I look good in red..
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 06:14 PM
Feb 14

…but with my attitude I would be hanging on the wall in minutes!!😂

chowmama

(1,072 posts)
166. If real, she did exactly the right thing.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 09:59 PM
Feb 13

And if staged/AI, it's a good training example.

He went from harassment to assault quickly and wasn't going to back off on his own. Small room, no escape, nobody coming to help. In self-defense classes, women are told to do whatever it takes to get free and able to escape and then run like hell. That's what she did.

She had no idea what he might have been on. She had no idea if he was armed with a gun or a garrote, duct tape, zip ties, or handcuffs. She had to incapacitate him until the doors opened. If they're delayed or jammed, and he starts to recover, she's dead. He's now aware that she'll fight, so she's lost the element of surprise. He's going to fight her as if she were a man; likely he has a longer reach and more muscle mass to do it with. Not many people have the expertise to counteract those advantages. And he's now pissed as hell, with all the corresponding adrenaline. Adrenaline can temporarily dull pain, for him as well as for her.

If those doors hadn't opened, she'd have been within her rights to go further.

chouchou

(3,084 posts)
172. 'Bought 9-10 years ago, my husband broke up a dude from hitting the dude's girlfriend.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 10:46 PM
Feb 13

YES..He Broke up the dude. Busting his arm. My Sweetheart !

BigmanPigman

(55,027 posts)
174. She should have nailed him even more. Make him a eunuch.
Fri Feb 13, 2026, 11:03 PM
Feb 13

You KNOW he has done this before and will do it again. Too bad she wasn't carrying a knife to make sure this would be his last assault.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

pansypoo53219

(23,013 posts)
195. excellent job.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 06:44 AM
Feb 14

years ago a story in the paper. guy attempted to rape a woman + she grabbed his dick + wouldn't let go. i think she 'nailed' him too, cause he was pleading for mercy.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,757 posts)
199. Violence is good as long as we agree with the outcome
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 10:26 AM
Feb 14

There is a reason I put my earphones down on and ignore everyone when outside. Men. Women. Children. I only pay attention to dogs because dogs are wonderful and deserve our attention

blue-wave

(4,906 posts)
201. Good for Her!! She walloped an Epstein Jr. !! It appears she is trained
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 10:59 AM
Feb 14

in self defense. I believe every person, female or male, should be trained on how to react and defend in such assaults. The predators need to get their comeuppance.

LoveSucky

(53 posts)
204. That looked super choreographed
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 11:46 AM
Feb 14

But even if it was wasn't, I am surprised that there are posters here that think THAT was excessive.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

electric_blue68

(26,736 posts)
238. Good on her! Either real (effin' bastard wouldn't take no), or staged as training.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 09:43 PM
Feb 15
Serious walloping!!
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