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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenator Fetterman supports the GOP voting ID law just passed in House
To those who support the new voting ID the GOP support and just voted on in the House, think about how it will affect women and their ability to vote.
To get a birth certificate costs at least $30. If you married and your name is different than your birth name, you have to pay to get a copy of your marriage license which could cost up to $5o if it's available which sometimes it isn't. If you are on your second or third marriage, you will need all copies of marriage and divorce papers which will cost more. Manywomen can't afford this, and this bill affects women more than men due to only women changing their names for the most part.
This bill is a very expensive poll tax in another name and an attempt to make it much more difficult for women to vote, which is the goal of the GOP as stated by many in power.
Blue Owl
(58,893 posts)Vote this turncoat OUT!
Pinback
(13,579 posts)Lots of time for more damage, unfortunately.
Baitball Blogger
(52,183 posts)QueerDuck
(1,554 posts)lick a frog........
Initech
(108,504 posts)This man is compromised by Fox and Murdoch, he should not be allowed to continue as an elected democrat.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,493 posts)There is no recall mechanism for Federal officials.
Omnipresent
(7,411 posts)dem4decades
(13,969 posts)pwb
(12,609 posts)In small towns people are known to the poll workers. Will a 90 year old known in town without a drivers license be denied voting? Married woman with name changes?
It will hit both sides but some discretion to local personal knowledge of a voter should be enough to vote.
msongs
(73,569 posts)BlueKota
(5,259 posts)Why does he even pretend to be a Democrat anymore? Instead of John his first name should be Judas.
poli-junkie
(1,551 posts)Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)bluestarone
(22,026 posts)SunSeeker
(58,180 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 13, 2026, 05:11 PM - Edit history (1)
He is not the same man I donated to. I think his stroke affected his personality and cognition...and not for the better.
BlueKota
(5,259 posts)something called the Conversation his answers to the interviewer's questions were basically incoherent. When she sought clarification his answers still didn't make sense. I think you're right that his stroke affected his rationality and ability to speak without wandering away from his subject. His cognitive issues seemed to me to be almost as bad as tsf's.
I feel sad for him about his illness, but it's too bad he can't be replaced with another Democrat before 2028.
Bettie
(19,588 posts)He's a Republican at this point.
The stroke clearly changed him. I've seen others become an entirely different person after a stroke.
Scrivener7
(59,332 posts)AZ8theist
(7,260 posts)I worked my ass off to get her elected.
Imagine how betrayed I felt. So glad she's gone. She's dead to me now.
We now have 2 great Senators standing for the rule of law and Democracy in Kelly and Gallego!!!
Scrivener7
(59,332 posts)Alansworld
(25 posts)Sinemanchin.
senseandsensibility
(24,792 posts)and said he always treated her with respect and called out other Dems for being mean to her. As if that's the problem right now.
La Coliniere
(1,890 posts)the wool over so many of us. Wish we could see into the future in regards to the politicians we vote for. He needs to be challenged by an authentic Democrat.
no_hypocrisy
(54,769 posts)will opt to retain their "maiden names" for that purpose. I'm not talking hyphens. I mean birth name until death. And unfortunately in our culture, a lot of husbands won't be thrilled that their wives and children won't be monikered with THEIR names.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)MagickMuffin
(18,315 posts)There arent any marriage licenses for common law marriages, that I know of!
stillspkg
(188 posts)What a traitor he turned out to be.
popsdenver
(2,170 posts)has known about this for a month or two. And is telling all her FEMALE friends what they need to do to retain the right to vote.
99% of them have been voting using their married name, and not their maiden name.........
She is also worried about these assholes checking "how they signed their name when they FIRST registered", and intentionally signing it the same way on ballots. No one signs their name the same as they did years or decades ago, and if "they" check the two, "they"can throw out all the ballots that are signed the current way your name...............
Putin always wins 85+% of the vote in Russia, and I am more than sure he is showing the Republicans all the Corrupt ways he does that, to get all those landslides of votes...
Quiet Em
(2,846 posts)It looks nothing like my original signature.
twodogsbarking
(18,414 posts)Initech
(108,504 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,943 posts)Tim S
(198 posts)durablend
(9,189 posts)Autumn
(48,931 posts)A lot.
He has voted with Democrats an overwhelming amount of the time and there are numerous Democrats who have voted with Republicans more often. He is nowhere close to Manchin who held up things getting passed. Fetterman has never blocked a Democratic Priority from passing.
Trueblue Texan
(4,390 posts)Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)flvegan
(66,174 posts)Figarosmom
(11,451 posts)They go nuclear on the filibuster. Schumer needs to crack down on him. Tell him he'll be primaries and no funds from DNC. He's been compromised, that's for sure. I still think it's a threat of deportation for his wife.
flamingdem
(40,849 posts)Plenty of health reasons to cite
DJ Synikus Makisimus
(1,404 posts)Might want to rethink that.
Clouds Passing
(7,845 posts)Autumn
(48,931 posts)Clouds Passing
(7,845 posts)Thanks autumn
Ping Tung
(4,370 posts)Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez sold out as soon as she got to D.C. I'm hoping that a progressive or even moderate candidate appears in our open primary.
this bill already been approved in the senate?
Wiz Imp
(9,790 posts)It passed the House for the 3rd or 4th time but that is irrelevant. It will NEVER pass the Senate.
I have to ask you why though. Are they afraid of losing votes from republican women?
Wiz Imp
(9,790 posts)And Murkowski has already said she will vote against it. That means they need at least 8 Democrats to vote for it . No chance of that happening. The Republicans have been trying to pass this for a decade. Until they get 60 Senators or abolish the filibuster, it will continue to die there as it has for the past decade.
regnaD kciN
(27,604 posts)
only a simple majority meaning that all the GOP needs is 50 votes + couchfucker.
The reason the filibuster has never been nuked is politicians in the majority worrying about what their opponents might do should they regain power. But what about eliminating it to pass a bill that will allow them to prevent that from ever happening?
awesomerwb1
(5,082 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,790 posts)If you really believe that there there is no point in singling out Fetterman. In reality there is no chance 8 Democrats vote for it. Republicans have been trying to pass this for a decade and it always dies in the Senate because it will NEVER get 60 votes there. The only way for it to pass is to abolish the filibuster which Republicans will not do at this time.
Last year it got 4 Democratic votes in the House and still never even got a vote in the Senate.
Even Fetterman (who has not supported it but is accused of supporting it) believes it has no chance of passing.
https://kdhnews.com/news/politics/sen-john-fetterman-says-previous-comments-against-voter-id-were-out-of-deference-to-gov/article_cdf7b119-59e6-5c93-ae56-88f9b7f6179a.html
LuvLoogie
(8,772 posts)He votes like a pedo protector.
mountain grammy
(28,948 posts)He asked the Senator if he supported the SAVE Act which Karl said "was supported by 80% of American voters" and I'm thinking, what? did he just pull that out of his ass.
Schiff held his ground and kept stating the Act was a deterrence from voting..
Karl again tried the 80% crap, but backed off..
Schiff is smarter. He's a gem!
Raven123
(7,757 posts)Cross our fingers he either steps aside or faces a strong primary opponent.
mysteryowl
(9,257 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,790 posts)In an interview with the Post-Gazette, he stressed that he did not say that he would support the bill, which is an expansive effort to require proof of citizenship during voter registration and photo ID during voting, limit registration by mail and purge voter rolls more frequently, among other measures.
Fetterman said the changes to curtail mail-in registration were "a nonstarter" for him. Even if he were to vote for the bill, he said, it's almost certain to die in the Senate because it won't win the necessary 60 votes.
durablend
(9,189 posts)He's voting for it, don't fool yourself thinking otherwise believing his Susan Collins level wishy washiness.
maliaSmith
(193 posts)US Sen. John Fetterman campaigned against voter ID while running for the Senate in 2022, but now claims support in a recent Fox News interview.
As Republicans in the US House were preparing to vote on the Save America Act, which would disenfranchise up to 21 million Americans from voting in elections, US Sen. John reversed course from his opposition against voter ID laws while appearing on Fox News this past weekend.
DFW
(60,058 posts)1. You're still a Senator, even if you're NOT in the headlines on a daily basis.
2. Unconventional is OK. Unreliable is not.
Borogove
(612 posts)In his defense, however, I do have to applaud his consistent support for two areas of advocacy that are important to me - environmental policy and animal welfare policy. His League of Conservation Voters score is 90% lifetime and 100% for 2024 while his Humane World (formerly the Humane Society of the United States) score is 100% for 2025. In contrast, my other senator, Dave McCormack, has a 0% rating.
Bread and Circuses
(1,920 posts)The Wizard
(13,688 posts)kwolf68
(8,446 posts)But would it be possible this shitbag law to hamper Republicans from voting as it would Democrats, equally even?
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)Im not sure what is so hard about getting proof of citizenship considering Real ID is a requirement now to commercially fly
as it validates your citizenship since youve already done all the gathering of your paperwork. Same with a passport
I know not everyone has one, but if a person needed to get a passport, theyd manage to assemble the documents needed.
If someone has been married/divorced multiple times, I tend to think they would know they need to keep all their records for future needs.
Again, Im against the voter ID requirement because the fraud the repubs continue to fabricate is just a means to an end which they shouldnt be allowed to push through. Im of the opinion though, that in the world today, it behooves everyone to have proof of citizenship for your personal safety since even US citizens are getting deported!
Are there statics on Real ID percent compliance by state? Overall, it seems to be 60% but varies wildly state by state. State statics would be interesting to have
dsc
(53,374 posts)so I have to gather my stuff all over again.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)dsc
(53,374 posts)despite my having to use my birth certificate to get it. Apparently there is a form of real id non citizens can get.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)realize a Real ID doesnt prove US citizenship!
On a different note tho, I did read that this change only affects REGISTRATION to vote. Those already registered arent affected. Tho I suppose that could change after the fact like so many other things have lately.
durablend
(9,189 posts)And your assertion that ICE or whoever won't rip up legitimate citizenship documents anyway is laughable.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)want to fly because you dont have the Real ID thats your choice. Same with a passport, your choice.
durablend
(9,189 posts)Response to maliaSmith (Original post)
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ForgedCrank
(3,084 posts)get why everyone is so bent out of shape. I try to see it differently, because there is a positive in this.
Everyone already has to do all this to get the new stupid secure id thing anyway. But it comes with a benefit too; now they have their precious voter-id to stop all of those pesky illegals from voting. Now what do they have to say when they still get their butts kicked and find out there were no illegal immigrants voting in the first place? It's just another one of their lies exposed.
This is just one more way they will have stabbed themselves in the back and it takes away even more of their methods of lying.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)disenfranchise were their republican voters? They wont just be affecting democratic voters after all!
durablend
(9,189 posts)Except in I think 4 or 5 states
Trueblue Texan
(4,390 posts)...If he's in the Epstein files.
Klarkashton
(5,235 posts)Coolgoober
(298 posts)We're unconstitutional.
Jersey Devil
(10,828 posts)He kind of teased his way around answering but said he approves voter ID at the polls but not the rest of what is in the SAVE Act.
Democratic Pennsylvania Sen. John Fetterman disclosed that he would not vote for the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE) Act during a Friday episode of The Conversation with Dasha Burns.
Host Dasha Burns noted on the Politico show that Fetterman has deviated from much of his party by not opposing voter ID and explained that the SAVE Act would require proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections. However, the Democrat clarified that although he did not oppose voter ID, he would not vote for the legislation.
.. .
While Fetterman did not explain why he opposed the law during the Politico interview, he told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that changes to mail-in voter registration were a non-starter for him.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-fetterman-breaks-with-democrats-on-voter-id-but-still-opposes-save-act/ar-AA1Wiqz4
doc03
(39,033 posts)bucolic_frolic
(54,813 posts)I doubt he'd be reelected.
Mysterian
(6,370 posts)It seems he's screwing up the best paying job he ever had.