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Julie K. Brown Doesn't Think Epstein Killed Himself (Original Post) SamuelTheThird Feb 14 OP
I'm increasingly in agreement with her (and Epstein's brother)... hlthe2b Feb 14 #1
I never... 2naSalit Feb 14 #2
THIS malaise Feb 14 #3
Goshdang... 2naSalit Feb 14 #8
You rock too malaise Feb 14 #11
+1. tblue37 Feb 14 #7
I never believed he did either TommieMommy Feb 14 #4
I've been thinking the same thing Roy Rolling Feb 14 #5
or he paid someone a lot of money to fake his death and escape LymphocyteLover Feb 14 #16
With enough money Alliepoo Feb 14 #17
except happiness LymphocyteLover Feb 14 #18
He wasn't on suicide watch EdmondDantes_ Feb 14 #20
I was just watching the NewYorker podcast cally Feb 14 #6
Not even sure he is dead. multigraincracker Feb 14 #9
There are 2 stories that I no longer believe are true: DeeDeeNY Feb 14 #10
I hate to admit it, but I'm in agreement with you. chicoescuela Feb 14 #12
100% agree! TurboDem Feb 14 #24
And Ivana didn't just "fall down the stairs" one day before her scheduled deposition into Trump's criminal activities. sop Feb 14 #13
Nor does he talk about her death. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 14 #14
Apparently, they don't. Purported photos show an untended, overgrown niyad Feb 14 #21
Go Mow Your Mom..... IcyPeas Feb 14 #26
By this point, don't most people doubt the official story? Way too much fishiness to believe it. LymphocyteLover Feb 14 #15
Agreed DUgosh Feb 14 #19
I never did think that. My first reaction was that he and ken lay niyad Feb 14 #22
Neither do I. nt Susan Calvin Feb 14 #23
Are there people that still believe that? Johonny Feb 14 #25
I don't believe it. Never did. debm55 Feb 14 #27
Nobody does. nt doc03 Feb 14 #28
Kick dalton99a Feb 14 #29
When you think of some of the other 'events' Jarqui Feb 14 #30

2naSalit

(102,166 posts)
2. I never...
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 07:20 AM
Feb 14

Thought he killed himself. It's too obvious, especially after all this obvious effort to cover the whole thing up and the attempts to silence others.

Roy Rolling

(7,596 posts)
5. I've been thinking the same thing
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 07:52 AM
Feb 14

How does a prisoner under suicide watch hang himself?

Someone choked that boy to death.

What a shame even the cameras were asleep, and arguably the most important prisoner in U.S.history lost his life in a tragic accident.

cally

(21,864 posts)
6. I was just watching the NewYorker podcast
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 07:58 AM
Feb 14

and she convinced me. Worth watching. Basically, no investigation of “suicide”, after earlier “suicide” attempt Epstein claimed cell mate tried to kill him, guards lied, upper bunk undisturbed after supposedly “hanging”, etc.

DeeDeeNY

(3,949 posts)
10. There are 2 stories that I no longer believe are true:
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 08:15 AM
Feb 14

The first is that Epstein killed himself.
The second is that Trump won the '24 election.

chicoescuela

(3,012 posts)
12. I hate to admit it, but I'm in agreement with you.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 08:19 AM
Feb 14

Not one thing would I be surprised by any longer.

TurboDem

(360 posts)
24. 100% agree!
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 09:48 AM
Feb 14

I also don't think he legitimately won the 2016 election either. I have never known a Republican who achieved anything without cheating.

sop

(18,389 posts)
13. And Ivana didn't just "fall down the stairs" one day before her scheduled deposition into Trump's criminal activities.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 08:20 AM
Feb 14

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,846 posts)
14. Nor does he talk about her death.
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 08:48 AM
Feb 14

He buried her at his Golf Club. I wonder if the adult children leave flowers to acknowledge her birthday or Day of Death. To Donnie, Ivana is just another ex-wife who he does not have to pay alimony to anymore.

How crass.

niyad

(131,874 posts)
22. I never did think that. My first reaction was that he and ken lay
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 09:41 AM
Feb 14

were both alive, hiding out on the same island. Nothing since then has convinced me otherwise.

Jarqui

(10,900 posts)
30. When you think of some of the other 'events'
Sat Feb 14, 2026, 01:47 PM
Feb 14

"Katie Johnson" withdrawing her rape lawsuit fearing for her safety
Epstein purchasing 300+ gallons of sulfuric acid just before he was arrested
Concern that two girls were strangled and buried at Epstein's ranch in New Mexico
The witness Ted Lieu raised that reported a girl claiming Trump & Epstein had raped her was killed

More Than Two Dozen People Linked to Jeffrey Epstein Have Died Under Mysterious Circumstances
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/more-two-dozen-people-linked-153149553.html
(some of them listed appear to have been from natural causes but far from all)

Then we see how Ghislaine Maxwell has been treated
And the way DoJ exposed victims but hid the names of potential pedophiles

The preponderance of the surrounding evidence plus the evidence surrounding his death is overwhelming

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