British musician/analyst says Kid Rock was not "lip syncing"

[William Seger]

He's saying that the times it looks like Kid Rock drops the mic but can still be heard singing, there is actually a second voice doing a "call and response." That voice may or may not have been pre-recorded, and if pre-recorded, it may or may not have been Kid Rock. But if it was pre-recorded, it was recorded without the usual "pop filter" that a studio recording would have used, so it would sound more live. Some comments say that in a live concert of that song, someone else was doing those parts.

I don't know, but I just think it's funny that a MAGA hero is doing rap, while the MAGA cult is whining about non-white culture polluting their world.

[PJMcK]

1. The show sucked

Mostly because the music sucked.

But the audience sucked, too.

So, it really doesn’t matter if he was lip-syncing or not.

The MAGA halftime show sucked just like everything affiliated with Trump.

[NewHendoLib]

2. Who gives a flying fuck? A hyperbolic influencer with the vid loaded with all caps?

I swear, social media has really made life suck.

[sop]

6. "I swear, social media has really made life suck."

Truer words were never spoken (or written in this instance).

[highplainsdem]

11. Fil Henley - Wings of Pegasus - is one of my favorite YouTubers, and a great voice against AI and also

against fakery like autotune and lip-synching. I've posted a number of his videos.

He said he got a lot of emails asking him to check this, so he did.

He's also warning media outlets that if Kid Rock decides to sue them for saying he was lip-synching, he could win.

Checking this sort of thing is just what Fil does. He should not be attacked for finding out Kid Rock wasn't lip synching.

Would you have preferred him to lie?

[NewHendoLib]

13. I would have preferred to not see it.

I stopped watching Ryan Hall weather due to the screaming hyperbole.

Can't stand it - but that's just my opinion.

[highplainsdem]

15. I hate YouTubers using all caps, too. But Fil himself is a softspoken voice of reason. And one of the

most important voices around for keeping music real.

[chowder66]

18. I enjoy his videos as well. I don't see him as an "influencer" just a guy with an interesting show on youtube.

I particularly liked his Karen Carpenter analysis.

[William Seger]

27. That was good, and I have to admit I hadn't fully appreciated Karen's voice...

... but I think that was just because I thought the genre was too "commercial."

[chowder66]

28. I felt exactly the same way and it gave me a new appreciation for her voice.

I always liked her tone but I had a hard time with their style of pop. I feel the same way about ABBA and the Beach Boys. Just not my kind of thing.

[William Seger]

19. He used to do more analysis of musical styles and performers, which I really liked, but...

... most of his videos for the past couple of years have been about autotune/pitch-correction, famous names lip-syncing at concerts, and a few YouTube frauds. But I think that's just because that kind of crap, which has been around for a while, has virtually taken over commercial music in recent years. Fil claims that almost all the music you hear on steaming services and talent shows has been processed, even remixes and re-recordings of classics. I can't verify that's true, but now that I know what it sounds like, I sure hear a lot of it, everywhere.

[highplainsdem]

20. I don't know if you saw this 2023 thread I posted in Music Appreciation, but you probably saw both of Fil's

videos I posted in it:

Fil (Wings of Pegasus) rant about Randy Meisner's live '70s performances being AUTO-TUNED now
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034104347

[msongs]

3. the mic is at his crotch and words are coming out loud and strong. fil does not comment on those bits for some reason nt

[William Seger]

7. He said that with the vocals isolated, he can hear that's a second voice

... and that it's unlikely that Rock would have forgotten to lip-sync those parts.

Again, I don't know and certainly don't think it's a serious issue, but I have to agree that the evidence of lip-syncing is not as strong as it seemed. So, the only thing I'm taking away from it is that it's easy to jump to conclusions.

[highplainsdem]

14. He's warning the media that Kid Rock could win lawsuits over this.

[highplainsdem]

12. It was call and response. A second singer.

[Initech]

4. This is some clickbait bullshit.

I don't give a shit about this stupid temper tantrum. This was an epic failure on every single level.

TPUSA is an extremely terrible organization, and the more we talk about this shit show, the more they win.

Let's move on already.

[William Seger]

8. Some people seem to be mistaking why I posted this -- it's certainly not to exonerate Kid Rock

... for being such a total ass, and if he gets pissed because people are saying it was lip-synced when it wasn't, I'm not at all concerned about his feelings. I'm mainly just telling myself to be more careful about jumping to conclusions.

[msongs]

9. some people are interested in the facts of a situation and some are nt. I visit Fil's channel often where he analysizes

vocals going back to the 40's. the lip sync topic is taking more of his time lately.

[Initech]

10. Eh. I personally don't want to give TPUSA any more attention than I have to.

Fuck them all and this stupid excuse of a halftime show.

[stopdiggin]

16. I thought this was worthwhile (even while not a big fan, generally, of the format)

But - I continue to think that truth vs falsehood- is still a fairly important distinction ....

Find it somewhat disheartening that a fair percentage - simply do not care. Now that's kind of a kick in the head!

[0rganism]

5. I just want to know if their pirate cellist was playing for real

Seemed like he was the only performer enjoying the gig anyway

[FullySupportDems]

17. Kinda the definition of apathy isn't it

Anything about Kid Rock

[azureblue]

21. yeah, right gov'ner

dude, you need your hearing checked.

[William Seger]

22. I just did that a couple months ago, for hearing aids (nt)

[Johonny]

23. Every generation has a Ted Nugget

[bigtree]

24. If I was him I'd blame that awful screeching on someone else in a heartbeat

...any part of it.

Why should anyone care for him to be the one making that noise, or whether it was taped or not?

It's like owning up to a long, noisy fart.

[Skittles]

25. who cares?

HE SUCKS EITHER WAY

[William Seger]

26. Of course he sucks, but when I'm arguing with MAGA cultists on YouTube, I try very hard not to make false claims

That's so embarrassing when you get proven wrong about even an insignificant claim, because they will use that as a reason to discount every other thing you said. That, and I'm sorta doing penance here for jumping to a conclusion.

[Skittles]

29. I honestly do not give a FUCK what MAGAts think

they pimp for a 34 time felon / con man / sex offender / sedtionist

it is absolutely MIND-BOGGLING what offends them and what does NOT

[flvegan]

30. But did he affirm that Kid Rock sucks though?

[jmowreader]

31. The two shows couldn't have been more different

While Kid Rock was singing "Til You Can't," which Is very possibly the most depressing song released in this century, Bad Bunny was saying this:

Spanish: "Mi nombre es Benito Antonio Martínez Ocasio, y si hoy estoy aquí en el Super Bowl 60, es porque nunca, nunca dejé de creer en mí. Tú también deberías de creer en ti. Vales más de lo que piensas. Confía en mí."

English translation: "My name is Benito Antonio Martínez Ocasio, and if I'm here today at Super Bowl 60, it's because I never, ever stopped believing in myself. You should also believe in yourself. You're worth more than you think. Trust me."