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Garland has a full page website at Federalist Society. SheltieLover Feb 16 #1
We have to understand our own complicity. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #3
No idea. Maybe deal eps cut? SheltieLover Feb 16 #10
Maybe because for some incomprehensible reason Dem presidents appoint pukes to AG & FBI? SheltieLover Feb 16 #13
Because Democrats are not qualified to be in law enforcement dalton99a Feb 16 #17
Riiiiight. SheltieLover Feb 16 #19
What year did we get the internet? BidenRocks Feb 16 #59
OMG. That's disgusting. Scrivener7 Feb 16 #7
Yup, sure is. SheltieLover Feb 16 #8
And extremely disappointing ... I'll leave it at that. KPN Feb 16 #47
Do you have a URL for that? Disaffected Feb 16 #28
Sorry. It's the Federalist Society. Here is link. SheltieLover Feb 16 #55
We never had control Mr. Evil Feb 16 #52
Ghislaine Maxwell was still being charged. mysteryowl Feb 16 #53
same reason why Obama / Biden let 'em get away with lying their way into a WAR Skittles Feb 16 #2
How were they constrained, IYHO? OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #4
they WEREN'T constrained Skittles Feb 16 #48
Epstein was already dead by 2020, and Maxwell's trial was pending. Ocelot II Feb 16 #5
OK, why no action after 2021? OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #6
Because her appeal was still pending? Joinfortmill Feb 16 #34
That's not a reason iemanja Feb 16 #61
Ty for clarifying SheltieLover Feb 16 #14
I appreciate this response and I find it accurate kwolf68 Feb 16 #30
Might interfere with pending/future charges/trials Joinfortmill Feb 16 #36
I applaud your calm and cool response BaronChocula Feb 16 #41
Exactly! Ocelot II Feb 16 #43
Thank you! betsuni Feb 16 #49
It didn't have the high profile it does now iemanja Feb 16 #63
Correct EXCEPT BaronChocula Feb 17 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Feb 17 #68
The goal of blaming Democrats: they believe in rule of law/the system but the system is irrevocably corrupt betsuni Feb 16 #46
I'm not sure OP was talking about releasing the Maxwell files as much as keeping the issue alive. Ilikepurple Feb 16 #56
TY for posting the actual Legal Aspects Cha Feb 16 #58
They wanted to win on more pressing issues than Epstein, which some felt didn't matter after he got away ... marble falls Feb 16 #9
I am glad that this is a conversation that's happening without being hijacked. It's an important question. Scrivener7 Feb 16 #11
See Ocelot's post 6 above SheltieLover Feb 16 #15
I can think of a few issues Raven123 Feb 16 #12
Your response makes a lot of sense. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #24
What do you mean? tintinvotes Feb 16 #16
I think we ran out of time and, somehow, Trump got elected(?) again. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #20
I don't know why people don't know ... Whiskeytide Feb 16 #23
This is the context I appreciate. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #25
What if Merrick Garland is in the Epstein Files? OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #18
If Garland were in the files... sheshe2 Feb 16 #22
That would be too juicy, not to expose. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #26
The Maxwell appeal was rejected by the Supreme Court in 2025. Chemical Bill Feb 16 #21
I guess this is the ultimate takeaway. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #29
And we have, in the past, bent over backward to prevent them from whining. Scrivener7 Feb 17 #76
TBF, they inherited a global crisis and thousands of Americans dying each week. viva la Feb 16 #27
Agree Deminpenn Feb 16 #40
The DOJ was not fighting COVID. We had other governmental departments whose job that was. THIS was the DOJ's job. Scrivener7 Feb 17 #75
My understanding is Presidents stay out of ongoing investigations. Joinfortmill Feb 16 #31
Our side does. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #32
The irony of course is that right wing media (prior to Trump 2.0) progressoid Feb 16 #57
Because in 2020, krasnov was president. niyad Feb 16 #33
Fix to 2021. Thanks. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 16 #35
There were far more pressing things going on in the country, like the pandemic. n/t valleyrogue Feb 16 #37
Ted Lieu: "Merrick Garland dropped the ball." BeyondGeography Feb 16 #38
Impossible! Orrex Feb 16 #44
The important thing is that Garland avoided the appearance of a politcal agenda. Orrex Feb 16 #39
The mistake with Garland was Deminpenn Feb 16 #42
You have to hand it to Garland. AloeVera Feb 16 #62
Exactly iemanja Feb 16 #64
i believe the situation demanded that we do that - we were historically and catastrophically negligent samsingh Feb 16 #45
Perhaps the Intelligence links SamuelTheThird Feb 16 #50
DOJ used to be independent under Biden Johnny2X2X Feb 16 #51
But that leaves the question: knowing what he knew, and he must have known, why did Garland not reveal something Scrivener7 Feb 17 #71
I don't think he knew as much as we think Johnny2X2X Feb 17 #72
They had the Epstein files. He should have known. He should have been briefed on what was in them, and that Scrivener7 Feb 17 #73
It took a literal act of Congress to get it released Johnny2X2X Feb 17 #77
Maxwell's trial didn't end till the end of 2021 zorbasd Feb 16 #54
They did not have to pause iemanja Feb 16 #65
The DOJ was not fighting Covid. The courts and court business continued just as other businesses continued. Scrivener7 Feb 17 #74
Cost of EGGS lrucks1952 Feb 16 #60
What MAGA thought had nothing to do iemanja Feb 16 #66
I ask myself that all the time DET Feb 17 #69
The files were sealed, because of the Maxell conviction and appeal standingtall Feb 17 #70

SheltieLover

(79,583 posts)
1. Garland has a full page website at Federalist Society.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:06 PM
Feb 16

Last edited Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:16 PM - Edit history (1)



'Nuf said?

https://fedsoc.org/bio/merrick-garland


On edit: corrected to Federalist Society (from Heritage Foundation). Apologies for error.

SheltieLover

(79,583 posts)
13. Maybe because for some incomprehensible reason Dem presidents appoint pukes to AG & FBI?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:19 PM
Feb 16

Best guess.

But why do they do that?????

SheltieLover

(79,583 posts)
55. Sorry. It's the Federalist Society. Here is link.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:14 PM
Feb 16
https://fedsoc.org/bio/merrick-garland

Regardless, we have this fucking mess tofay because Garland did not do his fucking job.

Skittles

(170,977 posts)
2. same reason why Obama / Biden let 'em get away with lying their way into a WAR
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:07 PM
Feb 16

can't really say without getting a HIDE though

OAITW r.2.0

(31,987 posts)
4. How were they constrained, IYHO?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:11 PM
Feb 16

IMHO, it may have been brute force extortion that never gets exposed.

Ocelot II

(130,187 posts)
5. Epstein was already dead by 2020, and Maxwell's trial was pending.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:11 PM
Feb 16

They could not have released investigative materials in the files that had any relevance to Maxwell's trial, which was not concluded until December of 2021, and then her appeal was still pending in 2024.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,987 posts)
6. OK, why no action after 2021?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:14 PM
Feb 16

Just trying to understand how we got here.

I have to think that Biden's FBI must have had serious concerns about Epstein's "suicide"....seeing lots of questions about the whole crime scene now on the internet.

kwolf68

(8,445 posts)
30. I appreciate this response and I find it accurate
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:52 PM
Feb 16

But you could STILL talk about it in the court of public opinion, on some level. NO, Biden couldn't have done anything because of the impending appeal, but the Biden admin didn't even really bring it up. This is the problem. A lot of people out there think there is no difference in the two parties. And trust me, there are prominent wealthy Democrats in those files, can't not be. They need to go down.

BaronChocula

(4,418 posts)
41. I applaud your calm and cool response
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:28 PM
Feb 16

I'm pulling my hair out. You can actually Google the answer. I found this on Newsnation.com

Epstein case was an open investigation under Biden
The Epstein case was an open criminal investigation during the Biden administration, Miami Herald investigative reporter Julie K. Brown explained on social media. Brown’s extensive reporting since 2017 has shone a light on the crimes of Epstein and his longtime accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell. Her book about Epstein, titled “Perversions of Justice,” is a New York Times bestseller.

“They had an open grand jury. … And even after Maxwell’s conviction, the case was on appeal — anyone in law enforcement knows you don’t open your case file when it’s still under appeal,” Brown added.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/why-were-epstein-files-not-released-biden/

And further, I don't recall anyone here at DU asking that question during the Biden admin. We aren't wrong for that. There were just a lot of other balls in the air.

iemanja

(57,724 posts)
63. It didn't have the high profile it does now
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:51 PM
Feb 16

How are we supposed to ask questions when it’s barely in the news? It’s only with the release of the files that we know the extent of the predators’ crimes. Besides, none of this is our fault, as you imply. We don’t have power to prosecute. If we did, Trump world be in prison.

I blame Garland.

BaronChocula

(4,418 posts)
67. Correct EXCEPT
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 12:10 AM
Feb 17

I specifically said we WEREN'T wrong for not asking. It wasn't on anyone's radar like it was after the pedo ran on it and his cult ran with it. I guess we have them to thank.

Response to BaronChocula (Reply #41)

betsuni

(28,982 posts)
46. The goal of blaming Democrats: they believe in rule of law/the system but the system is irrevocably corrupt
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:37 PM
Feb 16

and broken, so Democrats bad both sides both sides both sides both sides, be cynical and disgusted.

Ilikepurple

(573 posts)
56. I'm not sure OP was talking about releasing the Maxwell files as much as keeping the issue alive.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:18 PM
Feb 16

A conviction of one criminal or co conspirator doesn’t usually stop investigations into other surrounding criminal behavior in its tracks. That they didn’t get one grand jury indictment besides Maxwell and Epstein out of the wealth of files held is very strange and stranger as more info is released. Some here asked why this wasnt a bigger issue on DU. Unlike, some in the administration, we had no idea what was in the evidence files from those two investigations. Of course, people didn’t have to be named until evidence they were charged, but a vague gesture to how profoundly sordid global Epstein’s enterprise was might not have won them the election in 2024, but it sure would have helped in 2026 and 2028.

marble falls

(71,607 posts)
9. They wanted to win on more pressing issues than Epstein, which some felt didn't matter after he got away ...
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:17 PM
Feb 16

... with the Billy Bush interview.

Scrivener7

(59,289 posts)
11. I am glad that this is a conversation that's happening without being hijacked. It's an important question.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:17 PM
Feb 16

I think it does boil down to a combination of Garland and ongoing trials, but I'd like the details of the reasons too. Partly because republicans often ask it as a way to justify themselves, and partly because I want to know.

Raven123

(7,748 posts)
12. I can think of a few issues
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:18 PM
Feb 16

Maxwell was still being prosecuted. Sentenced 2022. There may have been issues related to the ongoing prosecution.

Like others before them, they assumed the prior DOJ them
dealt with all the perpetrators. This is one massive file.

They had the J6 insurrectionists and the documents case to deal with. SCOTUS and Cannon made their efforts harder than they should have been, occupying a lot of resources.

I don’t think it was one thing, but many things

OAITW r.2.0

(31,987 posts)
24. Your response makes a lot of sense.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:37 PM
Feb 16

How many Trump crimes would DOJ have active cases on? Maybe 60% of DOJ resources?

tintinvotes

(138 posts)
16. What do you mean?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:24 PM
Feb 16

The Biden adm successfully prosecuted Maxwell and had an open grand jury into the co conspirators in the SDNY until this past July when tRumpedo shut it down.

Whiskeytide

(4,651 posts)
23. I don't know why people don't know ...
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:36 PM
Feb 16

… this. The investigation was into about 12 co-conspirators, and it was well underway when it was transferred from SDNY to main justice and shut down. The MSM has barely mentioned this.

Hmmm. Actually I guess I do know why most people don’t know about it.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,987 posts)
18. What if Merrick Garland is in the Epstein Files?
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:24 PM
Feb 16

The ones not yet released/redacted. Not accusing, but thinking about the ramifications of such a possibility.

sheshe2

(97,094 posts)
22. If Garland were in the files...
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:34 PM
Feb 16

or any other prominent Dem were in those files Bondi would have released that damning info unredacted and with images in a NYM.

Chemical Bill

(3,159 posts)
21. The Maxwell appeal was rejected by the Supreme Court in 2025.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:29 PM
Feb 16

If Garland had released files from an investigation and trial before all appeals were exhausted, imagine the whining from the grifter about how Biden was targeting a political rival before an election. Oh, wait... nevermind.

Scrivener7

(59,289 posts)
76. And we have, in the past, bent over backward to prevent them from whining.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:28 AM
Feb 17

And they whine about everything, so that's a ridiculous course of action.

viva la

(4,580 posts)
27. TBF, they inherited a global crisis and thousands of Americans dying each week.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 09:42 PM
Feb 16

Epstein seemed more of a rightwing obsession. I never understood that-- Trump and many of his men were already implicated-- but the rightwingers didn't notice that.

I wish Biden would have hit hard on it, but Garland was always the "dot your i's and cross your t's" stickler for doing things "right."

Deminpenn

(17,411 posts)
40. Agree
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:22 PM
Feb 16

Biden had his hands full with COVID and trying to resusitate the economy and get back to some semblance of normal.

Scrivener7

(59,289 posts)
75. The DOJ was not fighting COVID. We had other governmental departments whose job that was. THIS was the DOJ's job.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:26 AM
Feb 17

progressoid

(53,045 posts)
57. The irony of course is that right wing media (prior to Trump 2.0)
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:23 PM
Feb 16

was claiming that Biden was directing and interfering with the DOJ all the time.

They aren't so concerned with that now. Hmmm...

Orrex

(66,951 posts)
44. Impossible!
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:32 PM
Feb 16

For years, the cheerleaders have mocked and bullied and ridiculed and gaslighted anyone who dared to suggest that Garland wasn't doing the absolute utmost to bring Trump to justice.

I'm sure that the cheerleaders will now leap up to attack Lieu with the same frenzy they've directed at fellow DUers who've been saying exactly the same thing.

Orrex

(66,951 posts)
39. The important thing is that Garland avoided the appearance of a politcal agenda.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:19 PM
Feb 16

That's the most important thing. So important. The importantest.

Deminpenn

(17,411 posts)
42. The mistake with Garland was
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:28 PM
Feb 16

Biden's nominating him for AG because McConnell screwed Garland out of seat on SCOTUS. By the time he was AG, he'd lost his aggressive prosecutorial temperament and brought the much more deliberate judicial temperament with him to DOJ instead.

AloeVera

(4,156 posts)
62. You have to hand it to Garland.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:46 PM
Feb 16

He had many of us believing that crap.

Because appearances and being apolitical are SO important. Ask the Federalist Society. Or any Republican.

iemanja

(57,724 posts)
64. Exactly
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:54 PM
Feb 16

It makes me ill when people defend him, when he was obviously incompetent. Either that, or he actively decided not to prosecute Trump or the other wealthy predators. The privileged circle their wagons.

samsingh

(18,396 posts)
45. i believe the situation demanded that we do that - we were historically and catastrophically negligent
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:32 PM
Feb 16

Johnny2X2X

(24,041 posts)
51. DOJ used to be independent under Biden
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 10:46 PM
Feb 16

He has nothing to do with what they did or didn’t do.

Scrivener7

(59,289 posts)
71. But that leaves the question: knowing what he knew, and he must have known, why did Garland not reveal something
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:15 AM
Feb 17

that would knock trump out of consideration to be elected as the leader of the free world? The documents case alone could have torpedoed him.

Even understanding Garland's membership in the Federalist Society, trump was so dirty it's hard to believe even the Federalist Society wanted him elected. But apparently they did. So why? Are they all in it? I know that sounds nuts, but what else could explain all this?

Johnny2X2X

(24,041 posts)
72. I don't think he knew as much as we think
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:19 AM
Feb 17

These investigations aren't discussed at the highest levels, they're conducted professionally and are compartmentalized to protect the integrity.

Trump and the people he supplied young girls to are powerful and had influence in the DOJ for sure. I do think Garland knew some details, but didn't want to be seen as politicizing the DOJ so left the decisions to the agents in charge. At some point in the chain of command though, there was a corrupt person who kept the worst stuff buried.

Scrivener7

(59,289 posts)
73. They had the Epstein files. He should have known. He should have been briefed on what was in them, and that
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:22 AM
Feb 17

should have been enough to get the extent of the corruption. One person hiding it from him is not logical. It was his job to know.

Johnny2X2X

(24,041 posts)
77. It took a literal act of Congress to get it released
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:29 AM
Feb 17

It is not normal to release investigations when the bulk of the people in them weren't charged. There are investigations from the Nixon era no one has ever seen still. DOJ investigations are not a political football, they are sealed.

Where the real corruption lies is with the federal prosecutors who refused to charge Trump when they had credible accusations of this misconduct.

zorbasd

(525 posts)
54. Maxwell's trial didn't end till the end of 2021
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:09 PM
Feb 16

so they had to pause during that time, but Garland utterly failed to pursue it after Maxwell was found guilty later. Maybe the covid issue was a real priority.

iemanja

(57,724 posts)
65. They did not have to pause
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:57 PM
Feb 16

Co-defendants are prosecuted all the time. There are literally hundreds of cases when multiple perps were prosecuted. That’s probably an understatement.

Scrivener7

(59,289 posts)
74. The DOJ was not fighting Covid. The courts and court business continued just as other businesses continued.
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 08:23 AM
Feb 17

lrucks1952

(26 posts)
60. Cost of EGGS
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:25 PM
Feb 16

I am not sure this Epstein case would have gotten the serious traction during the Biden term as it gets now!! 70 million voters were pissed off about the price of eggs and heard or listened to nothing else!!! The orange man kept talking about the deep state, corruption, election fraud and he had MAGA believers convinced that anything or anyone pointing a finger at him regarding the Epstein files was simply the DEMS coming after him!!! Dems picking on TRUMP!!!
The MAGA believers never realized that the deep state they were hearing about? mad about? ready to over take the government about? was right before their eyes...The orange convicted felon, child predator and criminal was the leader of the deep state and right in front of them!! Even with all the evidence? The Trumpsters refused to see or hear the truth!!

iemanja

(57,724 posts)
66. What MAGA thought had nothing to do
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:58 PM
Feb 16

With Garland’s inactions. The excuses here are outrageous.

DET

(2,471 posts)
69. I ask myself that all the time
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:20 AM
Feb 17

There must have been at least a handful of people who knew what was in the Epstein files during the previous administration. Anyone who knew or at least suspected that Trump was involved in an international child sex trafficking ring and said nothing has a whole lot to answer for. Covid was under control by the run up to the 2024 election. And Trump had been convicted of rape and multiple felony counts at that point. The potential for someone as demonstrably evil as Trump to win the Presidency (again) - knowing what he was capable of - should have overridden any concerns re judicial protocol, especially given the fact that the Republicans had rigged the judiciary.

standingtall

(3,148 posts)
70. The files were sealed, because of the Maxell conviction and appeal
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 02:36 AM
Feb 17

Maybe Biden could've used his Presidential powers to unseal them, but it he didn't believe in interfering with the DOJ. Evident by letting his own Son get prosecuted I know he pardoned him and said he wouldn't, but he should've pardoned him. Garland was a huge mistake he could've should've prosecuted Trump for about a million things before we even get to the Epstein files. Biden was to generous I think Garland's appointment was a makeup for him getting blocked from the Supreme Court. Should've picked Jack Smith. Garland worked quicker to prosecute Hunter Biden then he did Trump enough said.

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