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In a stunning shift announced today, NATO stripped the United States of key NATO commands (Original Post) surfered Feb 18 OP
Shocking. They are right to do it but goddam this is a bad sign Easterncedar Feb 18 #1
I hope not. NATO is more important than the office of president, and I don't think I'm alone in saying that. ck4829 Feb 18 #2
I Choose Any Democratic Institution and/Or Cha Feb 18 #14
Same here. greatauntoftriplets Feb 19 #26
I am right there with you. sheshe2 Feb 19 #28
tRump administration: tearing apart alliances that served Whyisthisstillclose Feb 18 #3
I'm sure pootin is thrilled SheltieLover Feb 18 #4
any news confirmation? nt msongs Feb 18 #5
This happened about a week ago so I am pretty sure you can find Bev54 Feb 18 #11
NATO and the Europeans know the US is not going to.... Bread and Circuses Feb 18 #6
The last part sounds Grand... Cha Feb 18 #16
Spot on. Europe has seen this movie before. wnylib Feb 18 #23
They're already rising faster than us in economic power. SunSeeker Feb 19 #25
Our enemies are thrilled. Mission accomplished. Irish_Dem Feb 18 #7
Well it's dated a week ago MorbidButterflyTat Feb 18 #8
Looks like a demotion BaronChocula Feb 18 #9
Deservedly so. Americans chose to elect an untrustworthy, corrupt, traitorous fool RockRaven Feb 18 #10
I hope this bothers the HELL out of the R-voting Veterans in this country FakeNoose Feb 18 #12
Are we great yet? Are we respected around the world again yet? Beartracks Feb 18 #13
Another success for Trump/Putin. Iggo Feb 18 #15
This happened last week ybbor Feb 18 #17
I do not blame NATO one bit.☹️ ShazzieB Feb 18 #18
Nato will survive without us... lame54 Feb 18 #19
Putin is Ecstatic MissouriDem47 Feb 18 #20
Yep Martin Eden Feb 18 #21
It was never a hoax. niyad Feb 19 #29
It signals the US' diminished influence and iemanja Feb 18 #22
NATO Commands do rotate this giving Europe more control Historic NY Feb 19 #24
Can TSF evict them from their offices in NYC? Deuxcents Feb 19 #27
NATO is tired of trump and may be worried about trump's love of Putin LetMyPeopleVote Feb 19 #30
And Vlad just smiles . . . . Scubamatt Feb 19 #31
Pooty rumpy plan from yhe beginning. bluestarone Feb 19 #32

ck4829

(37,593 posts)
2. I hope not. NATO is more important than the office of president, and I don't think I'm alone in saying that.
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 09:31 PM
Feb 18

If I have to choose between NATO and the White House, I will pick NATO every time, and I don't even care who is president at the time.

Cha

(318,411 posts)
14. I Choose Any Democratic Institution and/Or
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 10:40 PM
Feb 18

Country Over the Fascist PEDO WH.. of course!

A Democratic President would be a Part of NATO Against the Fascist Dictators of the World... like Russia, China, North Korea,...

The Rest Listed Here...

Current World Dictators

https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/

3. tRump administration: tearing apart alliances that served
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 09:36 PM
Feb 18

the world well for over 80 years in a matter of months.

Bev54

(13,401 posts)
11. This happened about a week ago so I am pretty sure you can find
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 10:13 PM
Feb 18

news sources, I remember reading a few.

Bread and Circuses

(1,897 posts)
6. NATO and the Europeans know the US is not going to....
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 09:40 PM
Feb 18

Right itself in the next election or two.

This county is institutionalized fascism, fully supported by billionaires .

I’m rooting for the Europeans to rise in economic, military and political power.


👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

wnylib

(25,662 posts)
23. Spot on. Europe has seen this movie before.
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 11:50 PM
Feb 18

They know what's happening and are dealing with it.

SunSeeker

(58,165 posts)
25. They're already rising faster than us in economic power.
Thu Feb 19, 2026, 12:32 AM
Feb 19

I watched this clip of economist Justin Wolpers who pointed out that although it is nice that our stock market rose 16% over the last year to hit 50,000 for the Dow, the European stock market rose 38% during that same time period.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21029121

BaronChocula

(4,418 posts)
9. Looks like a demotion
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 09:55 PM
Feb 18

Last edited Wed Feb 18, 2026, 10:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Not a dissolution. Lardass could respond by withdrawing in which case NATO will become strictly a European entity, so I think.

On edit: Ooops, forgot about Canada.

RockRaven

(19,111 posts)
10. Deservedly so. Americans chose to elect an untrustworthy, corrupt, traitorous fool
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 09:56 PM
Feb 18

and now our military and intelligence services are likewise as a result.

This was all avoidable. Everyone you know who voted for The Dotard or didn't vote at all are the authors of this sad chapter. This is all on all of them.

FakeNoose

(41,189 posts)
12. I hope this bothers the HELL out of the R-voting Veterans in this country
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 10:21 PM
Feb 18

Are they finally paying attention?

ybbor

(1,736 posts)
17. This happened last week
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 10:46 PM
Feb 18

Someone posted it then.

Still stupid crazy turn of events.

Apparently, the French and another country that I can’t recall shared bogus info with US intelligence, and it ended up in Russia’s hands, so they knew we could no longer be trusted. Pretty sad.

ShazzieB

(22,480 posts)
18. I do not blame NATO one bit.☹️
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 10:47 PM
Feb 18

I really don't see how NATO has any other choice. Anyone with half a brain knows that Trump is irresponsible, unreliable, and incompetent. Trusting him with any responsibility whatsoever would be madness. (And yet here WE are, stuck with him. )

NATO is doing what they need to do, pure and simple. This sucks beyond belief, but it's all HIS fault and the fault of those who enable him. (Spineless Republican wienies in Congress, I'm looking at ALL of you! )

iemanja

(57,724 posts)
22. It signals the US' diminished influence and
Wed Feb 18, 2026, 11:27 PM
Feb 18

The rise of European command over NATO. That is not the end of NATO.

Historic NY

(39,937 posts)
24. NATO Commands do rotate this giving Europe more control
Thu Feb 19, 2026, 12:15 AM
Feb 19

The United States will turn over two of NATO's major command posts - in Naples, Italy and Norfolk, Virginia - to European officers, a military source told Reuters on Monday.
The move is in keeping with U.S. President Donald Trump's demands that European nations take more responsibility for their own security. His administration has called for the military alliance, long dominated by the United States, to become a "European-led NATO".

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-turn-over-2-nato-command-posts-europeans-military-source-says-2026-02-09/]

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,495 posts)
30. NATO is tired of trump and may be worried about trump's love of Putin
Thu Feb 19, 2026, 10:28 AM
Feb 19

This move did not surprise me

Scubamatt

(293 posts)
31. And Vlad just smiles . . . .
Thu Feb 19, 2026, 07:00 PM
Feb 19

Future historians are going to wonder at the mass delusion that is Trumpism. I'm so old I remember when Republicans used to be against anything that Russia wanted . . .

bluestarone

(21,998 posts)
32. Pooty rumpy plan from yhe beginning.
Thu Feb 19, 2026, 07:04 PM
Feb 19

America has to make a decision, and make a decision SOON! Very SCARY shit happening here.

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