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bigtree

(94,289 posts)
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:02 PM Feb 20

$1,700 refund per family for the people since Trump tariffs were ruled unconstitutional

Sam Stein @samstein 16m
Gov. Pritzker demands a $1,700 refund per family for the people of Illinois after Trump's tariffs were ruled unconstitutional


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$1,700 refund per family for the people since Trump tariffs were ruled unconstitutional (Original Post) bigtree Feb 20 OP
It would be nice MustLoveBeagles Feb 20 #1
We'll never see it. Ritabert Feb 20 #2
I dunno bigtree Feb 20 #7
You could be right. I wouldn't mind it. Ritabert Feb 20 #17
Trump will get around to it in 2 weeks. Beartracks Feb 21 #21
tariff refunds could be a 2026 campaign flashpoint bigtree Feb 20 #5
They get Dems out there saying they'll vote for a refund for each person harmed by this shit Bengus81 Feb 20 #11
Refunding would be an absolute nightmare. paleotn Feb 20 #13
Not that hard to figure out COGs increases WA-03 Democrat Feb 20 #19
Good points all. Beartracks Feb 21 #22
"the best course is just apply it to the gapping hole that is this year's federal budget" Strelnikov_ Feb 21 #23
Any properly managed business drray23 Feb 21 #24
Trump has really stepped in it. Tangible numbers that every household can understand. bucolic_frolic Feb 20 #3
he would have been better off just shutting it over this bigtree Feb 20 #9
That would be illegal. WarGamer Feb 20 #4
They passed those tariffs right on down the line to consumers. Let's see them prove they didn't Bengus81 Feb 20 #12
Exactly. It should be relatively easy to refund Bluetus Feb 20 #15
SCOTUS explicitly said today the refund MUST be to the importer of record. WarGamer Feb 20 #18
I understand what you are saying. Political punches don't have to be logical. Bluetus Feb 21 #25
You Said That Yesterday ProfessorGAC Feb 21 #27
You're right... I was recollecting studies from mid 25 WarGamer Feb 21 #28
They'd get $1700 worth of CryptoTrump Coins. Buns_of_Fire Feb 20 #6
that would be wild bigtree Feb 20 #8
You should always date your letters. Good to cc: Legal Dept too. twodogsbarking Feb 20 #10
And a CC: to some reputable news outlets - ProPublica, The Guardian, ... erronis Feb 20 #14
Damn straight Governor. Evolve Dammit Feb 20 #16
I'd rather see immediate repeal of the MAGA Murder Budget pat_k Feb 20 #20
Should be choices for a refund, like itemizing or standard deduction in taxes OC375 Feb 21 #26

bigtree

(94,289 posts)
7. I dunno
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:32 PM
Feb 20

...he's in a box.

He's going to fight the refunds to businesses in court, but he may want to try and make an election-eve gesture to the American people in the form of following through on his promise of the $2k, especially if he's contiunuing his fiction about the amount they're raising for the Treasury.

It's all a political play, complete with so much smoke and so many mirrors, that it's sort of credible to expect the untenable or the abberation from this WH.

Given that republicans are forecasting a rocky road to defeat in the midterms, it's as likely as the Covid stimulus checks were from the president who was denying there was a problem.

bigtree

(94,289 posts)
5. tariff refunds could be a 2026 campaign flashpoint
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:19 PM
Feb 20
Scott Lincicome @scottlincicome (VP CATO Inst.)
Tariff refunds could be THE fight of 2026 - & a major political flashpoint, too. The US govt illegally collected ~$175 BILLION from US firms, often w/ little notice (& ALWAYS w/ no input). And these taxes harmed the smallest firms most.
If they don't willingly pay it back... 🤬


12:30 PM · Feb 20, 2026

Bengus81

(10,173 posts)
11. They get Dems out there saying they'll vote for a refund for each person harmed by this shit
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 06:17 PM
Feb 20

once they have a majority again.

paleotn

(22,230 posts)
13. Refunding would be an absolute nightmare.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 06:21 PM
Feb 20

Businesses trying to figure out how much tariff they've paid above normal levels. In some cases, it's next to impossible. Many of their suppliers merely slap a percentage on every invoice to cover tariff exposure. Few go to the trouble of passing it on in a detailed manner, i.e., this amount of tariff applies to these purchased widgets.

Though I'd like to see refunds all around, the best course is just apply it to the gapping hole that is this year's federal budget thanks to Shitler's tax cuts for the wealth. Sucks, but that's the path of least resistance and that's why that will probably be the path.

AND....I don't want Shitler refunding anything and getting credit for it. He got his hand slapped. I want it to stay that way.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,356 posts)
19. Not that hard to figure out COGs increases
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 07:40 PM
Feb 20

on existing items it’s Jan 2025 vs. Jan 2026. Yes totally agree it is a problem he create and should get no credit for solving it.

Strelnikov_

(8,171 posts)
23. "the best course is just apply it to the gapping hole that is this year's federal budget"
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 03:31 PM
Feb 21

Agree.

The people who paid the tariff's are also responsible for the national debt . . . us.

Refunds would be nice, but will devolve into a grift for the well connected.

drray23

(8,792 posts)
24. Any properly managed business
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 04:12 PM
Feb 21

Can figure it out down to the cent. If you have integrated inventory, supplies, sales systems , etc.. you can make it spit out these numbers.
Smaller businesses may not have that capability

bucolic_frolic

(55,180 posts)
3. Trump has really stepped in it. Tangible numbers that every household can understand.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:14 PM
Feb 20

That will carry all the way to election day, along with how the issue of ICE has been decided in voters minds.

GOPee has a hard road ahead.

bigtree

(94,289 posts)
9. he would have been better off just shutting it over this
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:37 PM
Feb 20

...and take some credit for the softening of the harm he's done to the economy, or stick with the theme he started with today about the loss of the tariffs harming the economy.

But he's out there immediately bragging about imposing even more costly ones for businesses and basically just owning the shitty economy instead.

WarGamer

(18,620 posts)
4. That would be illegal.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:18 PM
Feb 20

Court decided that since the tariffs were illegal, the money was owed back to the importer of record... the government has no right to disburse that money other than to the importers.

unfortunately the only one receiving a windfall will be... WalMart, Target and Dollar Tree and 99c Store

Bengus81

(10,173 posts)
12. They passed those tariffs right on down the line to consumers. Let's see them prove they didn't
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 06:18 PM
Feb 20

Because they can't....................

Bluetus

(2,822 posts)
15. Exactly. It should be relatively easy to refund
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 06:55 PM
Feb 20

to the importers of record. But to the extent that they passed those costs along to others, therein lies the rub.

But that's not our problem. Trump created this mess. Dems should be demanding a full clawback of all illegal tariffs.

And if MAGA people complain that they actually paid the tariffs and should get the refund, well, we tried to warn you.

I see that Pritzker is taking a different angle, demanding the total tariff collection be refunded to individuals, not importers. Maybe that is the smarter political position, because that goes straight to the point that consumers paid 90% of the tariff. Only 10% was absorbed by importers/retailers

WarGamer

(18,620 posts)
18. SCOTUS explicitly said today the refund MUST be to the importer of record.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 07:30 PM
Feb 20

I don't know how they'd pay that to consumers.

Articles that I read said that major importers like WalMart only passed on around 50% of the tariff costs...

I don't know if there's a way to refund end consumers... theoretically it would have to come from the importer, like WalMart... which will NEVER happen.

Bluetus

(2,822 posts)
25. I understand what you are saying. Political punches don't have to be logical.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 07:15 PM
Feb 21

Pritzker's tactic rubs MAGA's node in this problem. Of course, there is no easy way to refund to the consumers that actually paid the tariff.

But that is not our problem. The Pritzker message is basically, "Trump made ordinary people pay the Trump tax. Retailers like Amazon and Wal*mart mostly passed on the tariffs to the customer, but now the Supreme Court says that Amazon and Wal*mart should eat their money back, but they don't have to refund you when they passed the Trump tariff on to you? WTF?"

Put them on the defensive. It isn't our problem to figure out. Republicans and Trump created this mess. Make them own it.

ProfessorGAC

(76,742 posts)
27. You Said That Yesterday
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 07:51 PM
Feb 21

I'm still not being it.
Reputable studies have shown the consumer bore between 91 & 93% of the tariff burden.
So, Walmart, Target,....did not bear the costs. They took revenue based upon an illegal surcharge and could logically be expecred to return those unwarranted margins.
It would ge more efficient to return the money directly to the consumers that bore the brunt of this illegitimate surcharge.
You keep saying it's illegal as if there is some precedent that establishes a law. There isn't.
It's all moot anyway.
$175 billion isn't enough to pay every household $1,700. It's around $50 billion short.

WarGamer

(18,620 posts)
28. You're right... I was recollecting studies from mid 25
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 08:37 PM
Feb 21
According to a meta-analysis by Cato and the Yale Budget Lab (released in February 2026), there was a significant shift in who paid as the year 2025 progressed:

June 2025 (The "Absorption" Phase): Studies found that only about 22% to 35% of costs had reached consumers. At that time, 64% of the burden was being eaten by the U.S. companies (importers) themselves through lower profit margins.

Late 2025 (The "Pass-Through" Phase): By October/November, those same researchers found the consumer share had jumped to 55%, and the importer's share had dropped to 27%.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,163 posts)
6. They'd get $1700 worth of CryptoTrump Coins.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 05:29 PM
Feb 20

Redeemable only at TrumpCrap dot com, for all your favorite crap from your favorite crappy "president". Shipping and handling extra on all items. (Shipping and handling charges are payable in $USD only, as mandated in EO 260220-687.)

erronis

(23,917 posts)
14. And a CC: to some reputable news outlets - ProPublica, The Guardian, ...
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 06:35 PM
Feb 20

A few overseas outside of the reach of these crooks.

pat_k

(13,393 posts)
20. I'd rather see immediate repeal of the MAGA Murder Budget
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 08:53 PM
Feb 20

That horror show was built on collection of something like 5 trillion in tariffs.

Time to repeal the whole fucking thing and start over without that assumption.

Now that people are feeling some of the outrageous cuts in healthcare, snap, etc., and seeing the beginning of the consequences of obscene increase in ice funding, I think a movement to repeal would gain steam quickly.

The house of cards collapses when you pull out the absurd tariff assumptions

OC375

(951 posts)
26. Should be choices for a refund, like itemizing or standard deduction in taxes
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 07:27 PM
Feb 21

Any transactions of consequence these days are electronic at some point. Really easy to produce receipts for furniture, car parts,. building materials, appliances, etc... especially if tariffs were added to established pricing. A lot of people lost a whole pile more than $1700 on this boondoggle, especially if you had "life" happen and needed to make major repairs or replacements. There was a lot more impacted that just multiple $1 gouges accrued buying stuff off Amazon or a new iPhone..

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