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niyad

(131,491 posts)
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 07:03 PM Feb 21

JFC!!! INTERLOCHEN??? NPR "All Things Considered" epstein and

maxwell used Interlochen Arts as one of their earliest recruiting grounds. (sorrry, I cannot link, but go to npr.org). Apparently, epstein at about age 14 was a student there, and later used his status as a donor to gain access to some of his victims.

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JFC!!! INTERLOCHEN??? NPR "All Things Considered" epstein and (Original Post) niyad Feb 21 OP
Link SheltieLover Feb 21 #1
THANK YOU!! niyad Feb 21 #2
Yw SheltieLover Feb 21 #7
Epstein was everywhere BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 21 #3
Except in hell, where he belonged. niyad Feb 21 #4
He's there now (if there is such a thing) Dave says Feb 21 #6
I had heard this, perhaps on a netfix or hbo special. Ilsa Feb 21 #5
For some reason, my mind went to larry nasser. niyad Feb 21 #8
Worth reading: Wikipedia entry for Jeffrey Epstein delisen Feb 21 #9
I was nauseated enough for one day just reading maxwell's wiki, niyad Feb 21 #10
My mantra angrychair Feb 21 #11
YOU. ARE. ABSOLUTELY. CORRECT!!! niyad Feb 21 #12
Michigan? Tetrachloride Feb 21 #13
Yes, the Arts Academy. niyad Feb 21 #14
mmm. never heard of it tho i visited the area once Tetrachloride Feb 21 #15
It's pretty famous in the performing arts community, right up there with Julliard. catbyte Feb 21 #16
Charlevoix ? Tetrachloride Feb 22 #20
Yep! catbyte Feb 22 #22
i have a friend there now. have visited harbor springs for a while Tetrachloride Feb 22 #27
i see Tetrachloride Feb 22 #21
Go to the link SheltieLover provided in post 1. niyad Feb 21 #17
I think some friends of mine attended that in middle school fujiyamasan Feb 21 #18
Fucked up. Revolting. And so much more. niyad Feb 22 #24
I attended the Interlochen music camp during two summers, Jack Valentino Feb 21 #19
Thank you so very much for sharing these precious memories with us. niyad Feb 22 #26
I attended the music camp in 1964. tavernier Feb 22 #23
Per the article, the scum did his hunting between 1994 and 2000. niyad Feb 22 #25
I did read that after I posted. tavernier Feb 22 #28
So very, very true. Especially when the people in those homes do not niyad Feb 22 #29

Ilsa

(64,184 posts)
5. I had heard this, perhaps on a netfix or hbo special.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 07:41 PM
Feb 21

Anywhere young smart girls or women could be, Epstein/Maxwell went.

delisen

(7,327 posts)
9. Worth reading: Wikipedia entry for Jeffrey Epstein
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 08:24 PM
Feb 21

It has the Interlochen connection plus information about various grifts.
He was a bad actor from at least early adulthood
.
Wikipedia also cites some connection to the big arms dealer who was implicated in Iran-Contra scandal.

It is inconceivable to me that Epstein was not known to or connected in some way to the CIA.

niyad

(131,491 posts)
10. I was nauseated enough for one day just reading maxwell's wiki,
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 08:27 PM
Feb 21

but will read his later.

catbyte

(38,995 posts)
16. It's pretty famous in the performing arts community, right up there with Julliard.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 09:24 PM
Feb 21

I grew up about 50 miles north of it. It's quite a place, right on the lake. Students from all over the world study there.



fujiyamasan

(1,518 posts)
18. I think some friends of mine attended that in middle school
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 10:54 PM
Feb 21

This is so fucked up. Just revolting.

Bring back gallows or guillotines for those associated with this sick fuck.

Jack Valentino

(4,841 posts)
19. I attended the Interlochen music camp during two summers,
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 10:59 PM
Feb 21

Last edited Sun Feb 22, 2026, 12:09 AM - Edit history (6)

after my seventh and eighth grade years, for piano--- as part of the "All-State" two-week program which was limited to Michigan residents only. My parents couldn't afford to pay for the regular 8-week program, and I won a 50% scholarship for my first trip there. My first time there, I fell hopelessly in love with a girl who eclipsed my talent on the piano, which was a humbling experience for me--- she could play Chopin's "Fantasie-Impromptu" at 13 years old, better than I ever did at 17--- MUCH later, I finally saw her again--- performing on public television, and she had become an MSU music professor by that time!

(Her given name was Kathryn, and her last name was the same as mine--
but no relation that I was ever able to discover, unless it might have been in 1607 or 1620 or earlier---
but the nickname she went by was 'Shotzie' of all things! Regardless, I have never forgotten her--
even recently showed pictures of her to my next-door neighbor---
taken by Interlochen photographers, which my parents purchased, since I was in them....)


My parents had a somewhat personal connection to the camp, although they were mostly not musicians, my father could play two tunes on the piano--- in my early childhood, they rented a cottage on Green Lake several times in the summer--- Interlochen is situated between Green Lake and Duck Lake--- and in the evenings, they would sit outside and listen to the concerts coming from the music camp-- the concerts were every night, as I learned when I was a student there. Before attending the camp, we made the trip there to see the internationally-famous pianist Van Cliburn, I had one of his record albums, and got his autograph! (and the Chopin Fantasie-Impromptu was part of that album, so I was quite familiar with it!)

Oddly enough, while I was an All-State student, at the end of one of these nightly concerts (for which attendance seemed mandatory for All-State students), I spotted my Jr. High teacher for math and social studies trying to make his way out, and excitedly accosted him! (Quite a 'Small world' coincidence!)

((Interlochen is situated some miles southeast of Traverse City Michigan---
so it is some 200+ miles away from our home in Lansing---
back then at 55 mph, it was a four or five hour car trip---
so actually seeing someone from home there is somewhat remarkable...))



Back somewhere around the early 1940's, the melody from the middle section of this composition was appropriated for what became a somewhat popular song, "I'm always chasing rainbows" (my mother knew all the words, having come of age during the 1940's--- and while not a musician, I always thought she had a rather beautiful singing voice.... Late in her life, when she was speaking much less due to Alzheimer's disease, I made a CD just for her with popular 1940's songs, and while playing it for her, she broke out into song--- I think it was a Judy Garland tune---

and she had a love for classical music due to the influence of one of her school-teachers--- because of that she was the driving force behind my piano lessons starting at age nine--- but I had already indicated some inclination for it some years earlier, picking out the notes of the wedding theme 'Here comes the bride' on the very aged pump-organ in our basement, after serving as the ring bearer at age four for my aunt's wedding!)


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As for the 'Epstein connection' to the camp, I prefer not to think about that....



but thanks for posting it anyway, since it prompted posting my personal memories
of the Interlochen music camp, and my mom and dad....



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niyad

(131,491 posts)
26. Thank you so very much for sharing these precious memories with us.
Sun Feb 22, 2026, 09:13 AM
Feb 22

One of the things we know in memory care is that music can reach a person even when notthing else can. If you saw the video of Tony Bennet shortly bfore he died, it was shown clearly. The minute the first notes came from his pianist, he was there. You did exactly the most wonderful thing for your mom.


And thank you for sharing those videos!

tavernier

(14,421 posts)
23. I attended the music camp in 1964.
Sun Feb 22, 2026, 07:23 AM
Feb 22

I played first violin in the orchestra. Van Cliburn was a guest pianist and Lucy Baines Johnson did a reading of Peter and the Wolf another time. I don’t remember anything weird going on other than the usual music nerd stuff. There was a group of us “hot chicks” in the dorm, and had there been any thing like that going on, we would have known. Also the rules were pretty strict. But I spent most of my free time across the street at the beach doing normal teenager stuff, or as my dad referred to it, a waste of talent and money. I guess rock and roll ruined me at an early age and I’m so glad it did.

niyad

(131,491 posts)
25. Per the article, the scum did his hunting between 1994 and 2000.
Sun Feb 22, 2026, 09:01 AM
Feb 22

in 1964, he was 11. He went to a summer session there when he was 14.

tavernier

(14,421 posts)
28. I did read that after I posted.
Sun Feb 22, 2026, 11:18 AM
Feb 22

I guess the only relevance might be that I always felt very safe and secure with the people who ran the organization (for years, both before and after I attended) which just goes to show how snakes can slither into all sorts of homes.

niyad

(131,491 posts)
29. So very, very true. Especially when the people in those homes do not
Sun Feb 22, 2026, 12:25 PM
Feb 22

know there are snakes aound. How innocently unaware we were last millenium.

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