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lostincalifornia

(5,320 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:20 AM Feb 28

Per Bloomberg TV: Trump gambles new Iran strikes will save flailing MAGA agenda

The US-Israeli attack on Tehran on Saturday marks a turning point for President Donald Trump, who is wagering that a war - the kind of which he once vowed NOT TO START - will strengthen his second-term agenda.

In a break from his campaign promises to keep the US out of foreign wars, Trump decided to attack - despite what Arab mediators described as significcan progress in nuclear talks with Tehran, and in the face of polling showing MOST Americans oppos fresh military action.

It came less than two months after he order a high-states US military raid inside Venezuela, another signal that his second term has tilted toward muscular intervention abroad.

The Iran strikes are the biggest gamble yet for the US leader, whose approval ratings have plunged in recent weeks, with surveys showing Americans think he is concentrating too much on foreign policy and too litte on the economy.

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Per Bloomberg TV: Trump gambles new Iran strikes will save flailing MAGA agenda (Original Post) lostincalifornia Feb 28 OP
Not terrible reporting for a change. 617Blue Feb 28 #1
When Bloomberg reports news, they report news, not editorializing as much of the MSM does. lostincalifornia Feb 28 #4
' will strengthen his second-term agenda.' SamuelTheThird Feb 28 #2
That is trump's wager, or what he is gambling on. No one has any idea how this will turn out. Even assuming the lostincalifornia Feb 28 #9
"Well, his voters are idiots... not fooled Feb 28 #24
Well, he gets to use that great slogan "Don't change horses in mid stream" Arthur_Frain Feb 28 #28
More throwing it against the wall to see if it sticks. GoodRaisin Feb 28 #39
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................. Lovie777 Feb 28 #3
I think his cult followers will praise him for this. zanana1 Feb 28 #8
Who cares. BannonsLiver Feb 28 #18
Here's the link for that: highplainsdem Feb 28 #5
trmp gambles killing foreign people will save flailing maga agenda spanone Feb 28 #6
And getting our own people killed. paleotn Feb 28 #16
Weren't American soldiers referred to as suckers and losers?? BattleRow Feb 28 #34
What Shitler thinks is irrelevant. Horrific but irrelevant. paleotn Feb 28 #35
Iran has more than a quarter of our population kurtyboy Feb 28 #40
I guarantee you there are ALREADY "boots on the ground" AZ8theist Feb 28 #41
And Netanyahu hopes a "unite behind me" feeling will save him in this year's elections muriel_volestrangler Feb 28 #7
Because MAGA is pro globalism, right? Johonny Feb 28 #10
MAGA..... SergeStorms Feb 28 #32
Hell of a gamble with the lives of US service personnel. paleotn Feb 28 #11
I have another possibility, gab13by13 Feb 28 #12
Bloomberg news is not a rightwing rag. You do not know what you are talking about. lostincalifornia Feb 28 #13
Bloomberg? paleotn Feb 28 #17
He can't legally cancel elections... returnee Feb 28 #21
And I have yet ANOTHER possibility! BannonsLiver Feb 28 #20
War & Upcoming Election badgolfer Feb 28 #14
most of maga is against this bigtree Feb 28 #15
but will they show their displeasure in midterms? While I wouldn't expect them to vote Democratic, you would think they lostincalifornia Feb 28 #25
it will be a cumulative thing, I'd think bigtree Feb 28 #26
good analysis lostincalifornia Feb 28 #27
Total misreading of recent history karynnj Feb 28 #19
That treasonous motherfucker will see the world burn to the ground Scalded Nun Feb 28 #22
And you thought his TARIFFS were unpopular. mwb970 Feb 28 #23
He's wrong. Again. nt City Lights Feb 28 #29
I think the biggest flaw if he succeeds in toppling the current Iranian regime will be the void left afterward. lostincalifornia Feb 28 #30
Agree. nt City Lights Feb 28 #33
Zuckerberg told him to move fast and break things. C_U_L8R Feb 28 #31
Strengthen it with whom? Figarosmom Feb 28 #36
It was always predestination to be a flailing MAGAt agenda Gum Logger Feb 28 #37
Those maggots that still support him need to enlist asap to fight in the war for their magaloon leader! kimbutgar Feb 28 #38
Yes, because nothing lowers prices like a good war, right Mr. Dump? mdbl Feb 28 #42
MaddowBlog-Why public skepticism of the offensive in Iran was inevitable -- and entirely Trump's fault LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2 #43

lostincalifornia

(5,320 posts)
9. That is trump's wager, or what he is gambling on. No one has any idea how this will turn out. Even assuming the
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:32 AM
Feb 28

current Iranian regime is toppled, are there even plans on how they are going to fill that supposed void? I seriously doubt it, and if past performance is any indication of future events, that should be very concerning to everyone.


not fooled

(6,666 posts)
24. "Well, his voters are idiots...
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:04 PM
Feb 28

...so this might just work with them."

That might be how it helps with the maggots.

Arthur_Frain

(2,336 posts)
28. Well, he gets to use that great slogan "Don't change horses in mid stream"
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:22 PM
Feb 28

A great one to kick off that campaign for kingship, no?

zanana1

(6,484 posts)
8. I think his cult followers will praise him for this.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:31 AM
Feb 28

They are not known for their gentle souls.

paleotn

(22,155 posts)
16. And getting our own people killed.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:53 AM
Feb 28

Last edited Sat Feb 28, 2026, 02:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Iran is no lightweight. And air strikes can only do so much to a nation its size. When that inevitably fails to produce the outcome Donnie and Nuttyyahoo want, will they escalate? We're not invading Iran. Geographically it's a hell of a tough nut to crack. That would require a Desert Storm level mobilization and a cross gulf invasion that would rival D-Day (Iraq wants no fucking part of this and neither does Turkey). That's crazy shit and ain't gonna happen.

But we may try to put boots on the ground at strategic points, hoping the Iranian people "rise up" and do the hard work for us. They won't. Some foreign power bombing the shit out of people tends to unite a populace, putting their prior differences aside. How many times have we seen that! And they'll start sending those "US boots on the ground" back to Dover AFB in coffins.

It's a fool's errand. The whole damn thing. And Trump and Nuttyyahoo are the greatest fools on the planet right now.

paleotn

(22,155 posts)
35. What Shitler thinks is irrelevant. Horrific but irrelevant.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 02:31 PM
Feb 28

What Americans think about dead US service personnel in a war most can't even understand is what matters in the real world.

kurtyboy

(1,011 posts)
40. Iran has more than a quarter of our population
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:35 PM
Feb 28

...spread across an area almost precisely matching Alaska's. And they have the strategic advantage of an entire population that will be unified in its ferocious resolve against Israel and the United States. We will not share such an advantage on this side of the conflict.

Best-case outcomes for the United States are horrific enough. Worst-case means the world burns.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,108 posts)
7. And Netanyahu hopes a "unite behind me" feeling will save him in this year's elections
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:31 AM
Feb 28
The Israeli Supreme Court decided that it is in 2026; the next election was scheduled to be held no later than 27 October 2026.[2]

After the October 7 attacks and the ensuing Gaza war, some have called for the resignation of Netanyahu,[15][16] with polls suggesting that more than 75% of Israelis believe he should step down.[17][18] There have also been calls for a snap election once the war is over. Minister of Labor Yoav Ben-Tzur said that an election should occur within 90 days of the end of the war,[19] although he later walked those statements back.[20] Polling suggests that 64% of Israelis believe that an election should happen as soon as the war is over.[18] In late 2025, Netanyahu said he expected elections to happen at the end of 2026, i.e. on time.[21]

If the budget is not passed by the late March 2026 deadline, early elections will be called.[22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Israeli_legislative_election

SergeStorms

(20,509 posts)
32. MAGA.....
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:42 PM
Feb 28

The world's ICE officers.

They're going to do for the world what ICE did for Minnesota.

paleotn

(22,155 posts)
11. Hell of a gamble with the lives of US service personnel.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:34 AM
Feb 28

And Iran ain't no Venezuela. It isn't 2003 Iraq either. They can and will protect themselves conventionally and asymmetrically. Wars also have uncertain outcomes. That's why rational people don't get into them unless forced to do so.

gab13by13

(32,121 posts)
12. I have another possibility,
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:39 AM
Feb 28

this may have nothing to do with politics and polls, this may be a smoke screen from Bloomberg.

Zelenskyy told Krasnov that he canceled elections because of the war and Krasnov replied, "why can't I do that?"

This is just another evolution by Krasnov and his billionaire friends into a dictatorship, going to war without authorization was never mentioned by Bloomberg was it? I say we are close to the point where Krasnov doesn't need his base, close to where politics don't matter.

I don't click on right wing rags.

paleotn

(22,155 posts)
17. Bloomberg?
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 11:01 AM
Feb 28

And Donnie can't cancel US elections. He may want to, sure, but that ain't happening. Period. Full stop. Air strikes can only go on for so long with limited results anyway, and will be over loooong before the Nov. elections. And no, we're not invading Iran. That would take weeks to months of planning and the largest mobilization of US forces since Desert Storm. Perhaps even larger. That ain't happening.

In my mind, this is Donnie flailing around, doing stupid, cowboy shit in an effort to escape Epstein, a flagging economy, and poll numbers not seen since Tricky Dick took his last ride on Marine One.

returnee

(917 posts)
21. He can't legally cancel elections...
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 11:13 AM
Feb 28

…but he can disrupt sufficiently to create chaos, calling results into question. He may think he can illegally grab more “emergency” powers. We would unwise in the extreme to put anything past him. Democrats need to oppose everything he does 24/7, loudly and clearly, no pussy-footing. They should be calling RIGHT FUCKING NOW for mass demonstrations. They need to press for impeachment NOW.

BannonsLiver

(20,536 posts)
20. And I have yet ANOTHER possibility!
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 11:09 AM
Feb 28

Pete Hegseth has been abducted by aliens and is now living on the planet Vulcan with one of the Kardashians. Like and subscribe for more details.

badgolfer

(299 posts)
14. War & Upcoming Election
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:44 AM
Feb 28

Starting this protracted war will also give Trump cause to suspend the November Elections!!

lostincalifornia

(5,320 posts)
25. but will they show their displeasure in midterms? While I wouldn't expect them to vote Democratic, you would think they
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:20 PM
Feb 28

would at least not vote for any republican that is supporting this.

karynnj

(60,935 posts)
19. Total misreading of recent history
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 11:09 AM
Feb 28

GWB's approval soared after WE were attached and people rallied around the only President we have. His numbers sank, but not enough when he attacked Iraq. In his second term it was the quagmire in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as Katrina that allowed not just an Obama landslide, but led eventually to 60 Democratic Senators.

Other than Trump and Netanyahu few wanted a war with Iran. The idea that Iranians will welcome the attack by 2 countries long demonized by Iran and decide that son of a Shah deposed nearly 50 years ago seems very unlikely.

The lessons of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Vietnam will likely hold here. You need to go back to the end of WWII for examples of countries that ended up with better governments after losing a war.

It is chilling when you think Iran is bigger, more homogeneous than Afghanistan or Iraq with a historical culture they are rightfully proud of.

This attack maybe because two narcissistic leaders want to change how their legacy is seen. Netanyahu has called for attacking Iran for decades. It was easy to see why Obama didn't confide in him that he approved negotiating with Iran.

Scalded Nun

(1,681 posts)
22. That treasonous motherfucker will see the world burn to the ground
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 11:37 AM
Feb 28

to both keep Epstein out of the news and to stay in power.

mwb970

(12,141 posts)
23. And you thought his TARIFFS were unpopular.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 11:42 AM
Feb 28

Wait till we see polling on Iran. Bring on Harry Enten!

lostincalifornia

(5,320 posts)
30. I think the biggest flaw if he succeeds in toppling the current Iranian regime will be the void left afterward.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 12:30 PM
Feb 28

Figarosmom

(11,707 posts)
36. Strengthen it with whom?
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:40 PM
Feb 28

MAGA was big on no more wars. And they will ask how it that America first?

kimbutgar

(27,209 posts)
38. Those maggots that still support him need to enlist asap to fight in the war for their magaloon leader!
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:12 PM
Feb 28

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,226 posts)
43. MaddowBlog-Why public skepticism of the offensive in Iran was inevitable -- and entirely Trump's fault
Mon Mar 2, 2026, 03:27 PM
Mar 2

The president didn’t make the case for war. The resulting polling data was inevitable.

*Of course* the initial round of polling shows weak public support for the offensive in Iran:

The public didn’t want another war, and Trump never even tried to make the case. The results were inevitable. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-03-02T13:04:01.354Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/why-public-skepticism-of-the-offensive-in-iran-was-inevitable-and-entirely-trumps-fault

As Donald Trump moved the nation closer to a military conflict with Iran, there was some quantifiable evidence that suggested the American mainstream was not prepared for war. A University of Maryland poll released two weeks ago, for example, found that only about 1 in 5 Americans (21%) expressed support for the United States initiating an attack on Iran.....

Those national surveys, however, were conducted before the U.S. military offensive began. Would public attitudes change after the bombs started falling? Evidently not. Reuters reported on its first poll, conducted with Ipsos, on the crisis.

Only one in four Americans approves of the U.S. strikes that killed Iran’s leader, while about half — including one in four Republicans — believe President Donald Trump is too willing to use military force, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that concluded on Sunday.

Some 27% of respondents said they approved of the strikes, while 43% disapproved and 29% were not sure.


The same data found that a 56% majority of Americans think Trump is too willing to use military force to advance U.S. interests, which seems reasonable given the number of countries he’s attacked over the last year.....

For the White House, the survey data has to be discouraging, but if the president wants to know why exactly the American mainstream is not on board with the operation, he has no one to blame but himself.

Ahead of the U.S. offensive in Iraq in 2003, George W. Bush at least made the effort to prepare the nation for war. The president’s policy proved disastrous, but before launching the offensive he told the public what he was doing, why he was doing it, why he saw the mission as necessary and what he hoped to accomplish. While the failed policy ultimately proved wildly unpopular, when “shock and awe” got underway in Baghdad, polls showed strong public support.

Trump didn’t bother with any comparable efforts. Indeed, the Republican incumbent apparently didn’t see the point in informing the public about, or even trying to convince it of, the merits of his policy — to the extent that he has a policy beyond “drop bombs and hope it all works out.”

The president, in other words, didn’t make the case for war. The resulting polling data was inevitable.
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