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Fozzledick

(3,918 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:11 AM Tuesday

U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for "Armageddon," Return of Jesus

A combat-unit commander told non-commissioned officers at a briefing Monday that the Iran war is part of God’s plan and that Pres. Donald Trump was “anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth,” according to a complaint by a non-commissioned officer.

From Saturday morning through Monday night, more than 110 similar complaints about commanders in every branch of the military had been logged by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).

The complaints came from more than 40 different units spread across at least 30 military installations, the MRFF told me Monday night.
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The NCO wrote to the MRFF that their commander “urged us to tell our troops that this was ‘all part of God’s divine plan’ and he specifically referenced numerous citations out of the Book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ.”


https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for

This is it! They're trying to Immanentize the Eschaton!!
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Not surprised if this is true chicoescuela Tuesday #1
I'll be shocked if it's not true.... Ol Janx Spirit Tuesday #76
It's rather bdamomma Tuesday #121
I don't get the impression they see him as a prophet--more of a conduit maybe; or a tool. Ol Janx Spirit Tuesday #132
DJT is their profit. BattleRow Tuesday #135
The two biggest problems on the planet are... Trust_Reality Tuesday #86
Not to forget Climate Change. Justice matters. Tuesday #160
Nobody knows what Jesus looked like. Towlie Tuesday #88
I seem to have heard that "Jesus is coming back" somewhere around 471 times. chouchou Tuesday #2
Jesus: NCDem47 Tuesday #79
That's why the religious fanatics are getting desperate enough to try to start an actual... Ol Janx Spirit Tuesday #80
and he's mad as hell...... n/t lastlib Tuesday #82
You got me laughing! chouchou Tuesday #85
I've heard the end times are happening now for decades....so far though it's still not happened. cstanleytech Tuesday #112
Country Joe & The Fish had it right years ago... wcmagumba Tuesday #3
I LOVE THESE GUYS! ABC123Easy Tuesday #6
Just looked it up and Country Joe McDonald is still living and kicking it around at 84...Cool... wcmagumba Tuesday #14
Perfect song for TODAY and back then. bluestarone Tuesday #87
I met him once YoshidaYui Wednesday #163
I saw Barry Melton at a Gathering of the Tribe feast & concert up in Northern California in December NBachers Tuesday #42
I was there Henry203 Tuesday #53
The song only needs a minor alteration. Towlie Tuesday #77
Well done. calimary Tuesday #95
Brings back some good memories. Glad I got a chance to live through that. kerry-is-my-prez Tuesday #116
Thank you so very much for sharing. I would love to get together a bunch of cornball 24 Tuesday #118
Any sourced reports other than some guy's blog? Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #4
I think it is true Horseshoeluck Tuesday #39
Here is Mikey Weinstein's link to the story markodochartaigh Tuesday #99
What makes me angry is that I am not Bettie Tuesday #5
Jesus sees his shadow, so there will be Johonny Tuesday #7
But I thought that it was the Tooth Fairy? Dave Bowman Tuesday #16
It's different this time around. The rash on his neck was the tell mjvpi Tuesday #29
Great, militaries for all three belligerents are led by religious fanatics newdeal2 Tuesday #8
Let's ask AI which religion is more righteous. mjvpi Tuesday #30
So...TSF has been anointed by Jesus and the Iran leaders have Allah on their side so this is a holy war? Deuxcents Tuesday #9
This is Little Mikey Johnson's wet dream fantasy. yellow dahlia Tuesday #10
Does Moses Mike Traildogbob Tuesday #110
Very good question. yellow dahlia Tuesday #117
I suppose to some people this sounds a bit odd. markodochartaigh Tuesday #11
Trump is losing supporters, even some magas, so he thinks this will shore up the fundie zealot end timers nuts Attilatheblond Tuesday #26
The Arrogance of religion. Roc2020 Tuesday #12
Indeed. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Tuesday #113
TRUMP looks as much like 'the Antichrist' as much as any previous dictator--- Jack Valentino Tuesday #13
Trump is not smart enough to be the anti-christ...maybe a low level demon of some sort... wcmagumba Tuesday #17
Nowhere in the Bible did it say that the supposed anti-christ was "smart"...... Jack Valentino Tuesday #21
I never read that book, it's bad for my angina... wcmagumba Tuesday #23
I haven't read it in a long time either---- but I have 'very sinfully' asked A.I. to Jack Valentino Tuesday #24
I still don't understand how MAGAS figure B.See Tuesday #46
They're listening to modern day prophets that have their own TV shows. Lars39 Tuesday #78
They don't figure because they don't read what Jesus said about the last days. These ain't the last days. ancianita Tuesday #141
in it for the power i.e. MONAAAY B.See Tuesday #143
I have a neighbor who hates Trump because she believes that he is the anti Christ. wnylib Tuesday #161
How will Jesus communicate with the millions of followers? By Instagram, WhatsApp, email, text? dalton99a Tuesday #15
He will send I_UndergroundPanther Tuesday #51
"A figure which looks like Jesus Christ" ??? I thought it looked like a big check mark ! nt eppur_se_muova Tuesday #59
O ye of little faith dalton99a Tuesday #60
Why not eat it? Aren't the wine and wafers passed out at communion... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #120
lol That's not how transubstantiation works. ancianita Tuesday #142
I was just being an irreverent... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #144
ahh cool... cuz the beating of heads on walls didn't seem to imply smartass ancianita Tuesday #147
The head banging is because this kind of mystical claptrap... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #154
It looks like a giant hand giving the world the finger The Blue Flower Tuesday #136
Donald the Lion Farted will lead the crusade. usonian Tuesday #18
On his way to the Horns of Hattin, I hope . . . hatrack Tuesday #75
It takes absolutely monstrous arrogance to believe that your military actions influence God. milestogo Tuesday #19
When they say return of Jesus they mean nukes Blues Heron Tuesday #20
Because the Almighty, though almighty, is still not mighty enough to start a Mideast clusterfuck by Himself. Mister Ed Tuesday #22
They should all be removed from command and tried for Traitorous Seditious Conspiracy. BurnDoubt Tuesday #25
When we take control of the government again, Jasmin Crocket forAG. mjvpi Tuesday #33
Yes, Please! BurnDoubt Tuesday #48
Me, I'm all in for Jack Smith as AG. Best and most experienced, and knows everything ancianita Tuesday #153
Holy shit. SunSeeker Tuesday #27
I see what you did there. John1956PA Tuesday #28
Judaism, Islam and Christianity - a three cornered Abrahamic death match... Another Jackalope Tuesday #31
Capitalsm mjvpi Tuesday #35
Supplies the weapons to all sides. Another Jackalope Tuesday #37
Good one! calimary Tuesday #97
+1 leftstreet Tuesday #122
I agree, but when you have people who literally worship the concept... OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #134
When Fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. BattleRow Tuesday #137
What if Sekhmet returns I_UndergroundPanther Tuesday #50
The word "rapture" is nowhere in the Bible. ancianita Tuesday #146
Gaslighting Shite... They do NOT follow the Cha Tuesday #32
bunch of heretics. B.See Tuesday #47
Worshippers of The Anti Christ.. Cha Tuesday #49
Being raised Evangelical Pentacostal, this would be laughable, IF... czarjak Tuesday #34
IT isn't real. No one can "hasten" anything, because no one knows when the Second Coming will come, not the angels, ancianita Tuesday #149
It isn't real for a reason! czarjak Tuesday #158
I guess that means this rapture thingy will be happening soon. Dr. T Tuesday #36
I really don't look forward I_UndergroundPanther Tuesday #52
Michael Flynn Puppyjive Tuesday #38
The Four Pantloads of the Apocalypse Blue Owl Tuesday #40
Fozzledick, I remember reding the Illuminati books, and loved that phrase, "immanentize the Eschaton! ShazamIam Tuesday #41
I have no doubt this is true LogDog75 Tuesday #43
Based on your post, I think you left out a word... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #123
Thanks for catching that. LogDog75 Tuesday #145
The only difference between these people and the Taliban/Al Qaeda... RetiredParatrooper Tuesday #44
Oh... Just "wonderful".... electric_blue68 Tuesday #45
Led by Fuckabee malaise Tuesday #54
I'm sure Fuckabee has a tent all set up johnnyfins Tuesday #91
THIS malaise Tuesday #111
Well, then... that settles it! Alephy Tuesday #55
Had to Google "Immanentize the Eschaton" for meaning. Aussie105 Tuesday #56
US troops being led by mentally ill, psychotic leaders. Irish_Dem Tuesday #57
I'm reading this. Dangerous beyond words. Creating Zealots. Joinfortmill Tuesday #58
Could be a made up story. Just as dangerous. Kaleva Tuesday #69
MRFF is a well known and respected organization, and Larsen writes articles for their website muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #71
Look up the MRFF mountain grammy Tuesday #98
Do you have a link to where they confirm this? Kaleva Tuesday #104
Here is the link to Mikey Weinstein's story markodochartaigh Tuesday #100
Thanks! Kaleva Tuesday #105
Distration from the Trump-Epstein files is now biblical? Ruby the Liberal Tuesday #61
What should I wear when Jesus returns? Should I cook something? How long is he staying? twodogsbarking Tuesday #62
Unknown, but Bible says keep your bathroom clean and well-stocked dalton99a Tuesday #65
Does he have a gluten allergy? twodogsbarking Tuesday #67
Unlikely, according to Bible scholars in Tennessee. But he is probably partial to tobacco dalton99a Tuesday #68
He booked a room in Salt Lake City. That don't look so good. twodogsbarking Tuesday #70
When he returns he will have to die again just to cover Trump's sins. twodogsbarking Tuesday #138
And for God's sake, wear clean underwear! maxrandb Tuesday #126
With Charmin Ultra Soft, Scott Comfort Plus, or Angel Soft for the Bible humper-thrumpers? LogDog75 Tuesday #148
A few loaves & fishes will last however long he stays, but get your Ilsa Tuesday #130
lol ancianita Tuesday #152
This moron needs to be thrown out of the military yesterday. travelingthrulife Tuesday #63
FFRF.org ZDU Tuesday #64
I predict that when Jesus doesn't show up, a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed. Ray Bruns Tuesday #66
Doesn't matter, they're eaisly fooled into something else LogDog75 Tuesday #150
Yep. They've been grabbing on to "next dates" for over 200 years. ancianita Tuesday #151
Doesn't surpise me at all bluestarone Tuesday #72
What a crock of SHIT! hatrack Tuesday #73
Nothing like telling a soldier he's (she's) dead before he (she) even leaves our country. bluestarone Tuesday #74
Armageddon wouldn't happen unless there were people intentionally causing it. Clouds Passing Tuesday #81
OK Now I'm worried. flashman13 Tuesday #83
Do ya doubt it? lastlib Tuesday #84
It wouldn't be the first time they used that line! Hope22 Tuesday #89
Ah...its like the days of my youth. A much loved aunt... NNadir Tuesday #90
Why doesn't anybody talk about consequences for following ILLEGAL orders??? tazcat Tuesday #92
FUCK RELIGION -- ALL OF THEM! OMGWTF Tuesday #93
They try to force the Apocalypse to placate the Christo-fascists who will themselves be destroyed. GreenWave Tuesday #94
My parents were evangelical. They did not believe in the Rapture or Armageddon. HeartsCanHope Tuesday #96
That's creepy as hell to this non-believer. greatauntoftriplets Tuesday #101
Every human will escape the "rapture" because it ain't happenin' ancianita Tuesday #156
Probably, though I wouldn't mind seeing a lot of the MAGAts go poof somewhere. greatauntoftriplets Tuesday #162
But Jesus knows who did what in the Epstein files. n/t flvegan Tuesday #102
Though it's not surprising, I'm shocked! If that's possible JohnnyRingo Tuesday #103
Complete insanity. valleyrogue Tuesday #106
I really despise mixing religion with military... same with with government! liberalla Tuesday #107
If the report is true, then IMO, the officer must be removed from post sakabatou Tuesday #108
That is some scary shit. Religious maniacs in charge of our military? What could go wrong? Martin68 Tuesday #109
I Know The US Air Force Is A Hotbed Of This Thinking. BBbats Tuesday #114
I served 28 years in the AF LogDog75 Tuesday #155
This message was self-deleted by its author Miami Blue Tuesday #115
So, we have people in high positions who think they are fighting for their invisible friend? Americanme Tuesday #119
This bullshit reinforces my thinking that rather than... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #124
This is spelled out hermetic Tuesday #125
It's all about the Apocalypse: Another disturbing reason behind the right wing's pro-Israel obsession LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #127
Maybe aliens will cosplay "angels" and take these idiots Ilsa Tuesday #128
That sounds like the "Heaven's Gate" cult from the 70s...I'd be happy to see them leave... wcmagumba Tuesday #131
Maybe. ancianita Tuesday #157
That is so good! Thanks! nt Ilsa Wednesday #164
This message was self-deleted by its author LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #129
Unbelievable liberal N proud Tuesday #133
If Jesus returns to earth, will he smile favorably upon Martin Eden Tuesday #139
Disgusting proselytizing to your troops Evolve Dammit Tuesday #140
So these mortal fools think THEY can initiate Armageddon? Beartracks Tuesday #159

Ol Janx Spirit

(987 posts)
76. I'll be shocked if it's not true....
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:55 AM
Tuesday

This has been gospel in evangelical circles for a while. It is entirely how they justify their support for such a loathsome human being.....

bdamomma

(69,498 posts)
121. It's rather
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:00 PM
Tuesday

sick thinking. let them all go and leave those of us who want to practice religion our own way. And to think this POS thug DJT is their what Prophet????

Ol Janx Spirit

(987 posts)
132. I don't get the impression they see him as a prophet--more of a conduit maybe; or a tool.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 06:16 PM
Tuesday

He is definitely a tool.

And from selling them bibles and hats and everything else makes them his profit....

They are also tools.

Trust_Reality

(2,287 posts)
86. The two biggest problems on the planet are...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:23 PM
Tuesday

Greed and religion.

Incidentally, years ago, religious folks, especially evangelicals, began migrating to Colorado Springs, home of the US Air Force Academy.
Interesting?

Justice matters.

(9,682 posts)
160. Not to forget Climate Change.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:58 PM
Tuesday

No, we will not "adapt" because billions will die. Armageddon will come but not the way they think it will.

Towlie

(5,573 posts)
88. Nobody knows what Jesus looked like.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:29 PM
Tuesday

Maybe he's already here and doing children's parties with his magic act.

chouchou

(3,076 posts)
2. I seem to have heard that "Jesus is coming back" somewhere around 471 times.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:16 AM
Tuesday

I wish him luck.

Ol Janx Spirit

(987 posts)
80. That's why the religious fanatics are getting desperate enough to try to start an actual...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:59 AM
Tuesday

...war and not just keep predicting it will happen.

They've been perpetually wrong, and they aim to change that "by god."



Funny though that they want to attack the middle east so that they can end up being led by a guy from the middle east.

cstanleytech

(28,400 posts)
112. I've heard the end times are happening now for decades....so far though it's still not happened.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:55 PM
Tuesday

wcmagumba

(6,038 posts)
14. Just looked it up and Country Joe McDonald is still living and kicking it around at 84...Cool...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:28 AM
Tuesday

NBachers

(19,377 posts)
42. I saw Barry Melton at a Gathering of the Tribe feast & concert up in Northern California in December
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:38 AM
Tuesday

Barry and his band were absolutely phenomenal! He’s still on the circuit and playing frequently.

Towlie

(5,573 posts)
77. The song only needs a minor alteration.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:58 AM
Tuesday

And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn, next stop is in Iran
And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates
Ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,262 posts)
116. Brings back some good memories. Glad I got a chance to live through that.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:12 PM
Tuesday

What happened to all those kids??? Did half of them vote for Trump.

cornball 24

(1,578 posts)
118. Thank you so very much for sharing. I would love to get together a bunch of
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:39 PM
Tuesday

OTHER old ladies, gear up in hippie style and sing it loud and proud!

Fiendish Thingy

(22,877 posts)
4. Any sourced reports other than some guy's blog?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:19 AM
Tuesday

I mean, I would think the MRFF could either confirm or refute these reports pretty easily.

markodochartaigh

(5,422 posts)
99. Here is Mikey Weinstein's link to the story
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:03 PM
Tuesday

MRFF Inundated with Complaints of Gleeful Commanders Telling Troops Iran War is “Part of God’s Divine Plan” to Usher in Return of Jesus https://share.google/mGzjznclAkbBJLb5c

newdeal2

(5,279 posts)
8. Great, militaries for all three belligerents are led by religious fanatics
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:21 AM
Tuesday

Which god will win?!

Deuxcents

(26,493 posts)
9. So...TSF has been anointed by Jesus and the Iran leaders have Allah on their side so this is a holy war?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:22 AM
Tuesday

Is this Hegseth’s wet dream? How long are we gonna put up with this madness?

yellow dahlia

(5,583 posts)
10. This is Little Mikey Johnson's wet dream fantasy.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:23 AM
Tuesday

He is dangerous in his position - I have been saying so ever since he was elected Speaker.

markodochartaigh

(5,422 posts)
11. I suppose to some people this sounds a bit odd.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:25 AM
Tuesday

I would bet that about 20% of the US believes or could be easily persuaded that Trump was sent by God to bring on armageddon. Muslim prophecy about the 12th Imam, Imam Mahdi, is also an end times prophecy.

Attilatheblond

(8,701 posts)
26. Trump is losing supporters, even some magas, so he thinks this will shore up the fundie zealot end timers nuts
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:13 AM
Tuesday

All too likely and there are some of these fanatics in our military leadership, always has been.

Roc2020

(1,772 posts)
12. The Arrogance of religion.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:26 AM
Tuesday

The gall to think somehow God is on mankind's timeline and not the other way around They could drop every nuke on the planet that won't speed up God's timing one ioda.

Jack Valentino

(4,873 posts)
13. TRUMP looks as much like 'the Antichrist' as much as any previous dictator---
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:27 AM
Tuesday

so I guess that means that our military will be destroyed by Christ in the Middle East ??

(THAT was the actual prediction in the Bible for the anti-christ's army which would invade the middle east
just prior to 'the return of Christ'---
seems like these people have never actually read the Bible they claim to follow---
or they are out-right LYING about what it says, if they DO have any idea...)




(I was raised on this stuff, and studied it in adult-hood---
not saying that I believe it now, but these people are completely confused
about what it said!)

Jack Valentino

(4,873 posts)
21. Nowhere in the Bible did it say that the supposed anti-christ was "smart"......
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:40 AM
Tuesday

but it did imply that he had some sort of 'charisma',
which in Trump's case I have never been able to recognize,
but then I'm not a MAGAt....





(Also the Anti-christ was supposed to be a human being---
so even a 'low-level demon' would have ranked above him!!)

Jack Valentino

(4,873 posts)
24. I haven't read it in a long time either---- but I have 'very sinfully' asked A.I. to
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:49 AM
Tuesday

recollect some key verses for me!



B.See

(8,252 posts)
46. I still don't understand how MAGAS figure
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:08 AM
Tuesday

that following their antiChrist into Armageddon is somehow going to get them thru the gates of Heaven.

I'd think they'd be in for one rude awakening.

ancianita

(43,256 posts)
141. They don't figure because they don't read what Jesus said about the last days. These ain't the last days.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:41 PM
Tuesday

Trump and Hegseth are all in for this BS.

wnylib

(25,694 posts)
161. I have a neighbor who hates Trump because she believes that he is the anti Christ.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:15 PM
Tuesday

Makes no sense, as you point out, since fundies like her believe that the actions of the anti Christ will bring on the return of Jesus.

I made the mistake of trying to speak rationally to her about it. I pointed out all the predictions about end times that have never come true, but she thinks they all got it wrong and she has it right.

I tried telling her that even the church I grew up in (Lutheran) taught us not to try to interpret the book of Revelation as a prediction for modern times because it was written for people who lived 2000 years ago and referred to the Roman Empire.

She accused me of blasphemy for disregarding a sacred book.

I gave up. She's a hopeless case.










dalton99a

(93,650 posts)
15. How will Jesus communicate with the millions of followers? By Instagram, WhatsApp, email, text?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:30 AM
Tuesday

When will they know to look up?

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,364 posts)
51. He will send
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:25 AM
Tuesday

Birds to poop on thier shirts so they will look up. People tend to look up when something wet from the sky lands on them. Be it a few drops of rain or birdshit on thier sweater.

3catwoman3

(29,221 posts)
120. Why not eat it? Aren't the wine and wafers passed out at communion...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:59 PM
Tuesday

...supposed to become the actual blood and body of Christ via transubstantiation?

usonian

(24,711 posts)
18. Donald the Lion Farted will lead the crusade.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:34 AM
Tuesday


Real quote:


God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see!
He plays His games, we play ours!
To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls!

milestogo

(22,961 posts)
19. It takes absolutely monstrous arrogance to believe that your military actions influence God.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:38 AM
Tuesday

(Unless you're trying to convince God to send you straight to the hottest place in all of hell.)

Mister Ed

(6,911 posts)
22. Because the Almighty, though almighty, is still not mighty enough to start a Mideast clusterfuck by Himself.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:41 AM
Tuesday

Nope, can't manage to swing it. He needs mortals to do it for Him.

No proponent of this "End Times" stuff has ever been able to explain that to me.

BurnDoubt

(1,626 posts)
25. They should all be removed from command and tried for Traitorous Seditious Conspiracy.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:07 AM
Tuesday

In reality, if they can turn us into a (small “c”) "christian Dominion", they’ll be happy enough.
A slow-roll coup is still a coup. And they are guilty.

Another Jackalope

(183 posts)
31. Judaism, Islam and Christianity - a three cornered Abrahamic death match...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:39 AM
Tuesday

Which will be the Last Religion Standing, which leader will return?
Jesus? Moses? Mohammed?

The Rapture just got a lot more complicated.

The setup is horrifying - each side believes "Gott mit uns," and none will back down until they are proven correct.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,950 posts)
134. I agree, but when you have people who literally worship the concept...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 07:23 PM
Tuesday

That kind of makes it a religion, even if it does not pertain to a divine power other than the 'power' of the green paper.

Which is hysterical to me as that power exits solely because we say it exists.

We are held hostage by our own delusion.

Very funny.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,364 posts)
50. What if Sekhmet returns
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:19 AM
Tuesday

Nobody would expect her.

I would be there for the magas getting eaten like cheese puffs. Dragging every narcissist and psychopath and eating them all, then she’d have a hellova reckoning twords the Republican Party. Sekhmet supposedly returns in zep tepi. To bring back Ma’at the balance of all and of all things good. Sekhmet will excise the criminals like cancerous boils infesting our government and throw them into the sun.

ancianita

(43,256 posts)
146. The word "rapture" is nowhere in the Bible.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:16 PM
Tuesday

It's a misunderstanding of scripture, mostly by Protestant denominations, claiming these passages refer to the single, public event of the Second Coming of Jesus to rule on Earth.

The only thing Bible readers need know is what Jesus (who calls himself the Son of Man) says about end times in Matthew 24:3–36


" ... 3 As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

4 And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not be alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. 10 And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. ... 23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it.
24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

The Coming of the Son of Man
29 “Immediately after othe tribulation of those days pthe sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The Lesson of the Fig Tree
32 “From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.
34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.
35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but fmy words will not pass away.

No One Knows That Day and Hour
36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only...."

Cha

(318,486 posts)
49. Worshippers of The Anti Christ..
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:44 AM
Tuesday

That also happens to be a PEDO, Rapist, Racist, Felon, and a Homicidal Maniac. Very Dark Ugly Evil Shit.

czarjak

(13,589 posts)
34. Being raised Evangelical Pentacostal, this would be laughable, IF...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:44 AM
Tuesday

IT wasn't real. You knew one of those Biblethumpers told him he could hasten The Second Coming. Just like Pence and Pompeo believed they were called for. We. Are. Doomed. Folks.

ancianita

(43,256 posts)
149. IT isn't real. No one can "hasten" anything, because no one knows when the Second Coming will come, not the angels,
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:22 PM
Tuesday

of heaven, not even the Son the Father first sent -- no one but God the Father knows. Humanity can't do one single thing to speed up the actions of the God of the Eternal Now.

Dr. T

(606 posts)
36. I guess that means this rapture thingy will be happening soon.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:48 AM
Tuesday

I've been meaning to do some serious grifting by starting a rapture insurance company. I'm surprised Don the Con hasn't thought of it.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,364 posts)
52. I really don't look forward
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:29 AM
Tuesday

Flying around in the air with a bunch of strangers naked. I will cling to my clothes like crazy if I ran into a rapture.

Puppyjive

(975 posts)
38. Michael Flynn
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:53 AM
Tuesday

He is the soldier who got all of this started. His religious beliefs were forced down their throats. He demanded respect and corerced each and every one of them into submission. They penetrated FOX noise and spread their propaganda. Most of my military friends are maga and I truly don't know why. Some of them were so bad, I ended the friendships.

ShazamIam

(3,091 posts)
41. Fozzledick, I remember reding the Illuminati books, and loved that phrase, "immanentize the Eschaton!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:34 AM
Tuesday

Our current government is made up of ignorant, delusional fools Putin and Xi are celebrating as we self-destruct.

LogDog75

(1,246 posts)
43. I have no doubt this is true
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:55 AM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:13 PM - Edit history (2)

The Christian Nationalists in the military were always pushing their religion wherever they could. When I was at the AF NCO Leadership Academy, one of the 20 students was very religious and wanted to start the day by having a class prayer. Our instructor put it to a vote of the class and said if one person voted no then we wouldn't do it. We, including me, overwhelmingly reject the suggestion. Small victory but it felt good.

One thing I've always objected to while in the AF was during ceremonies either a Chaplin or someone would lead those attending in a prayer. They'd say "Please Bow your heads" and 80% of the time would end it with "In Jesus' name, Amen." One could interrupt "Bow your heads" as an order and not doing so could, theoretically, get you in trouble. Also, there are people who are Jewish, Muslims, Buddhists, Wiccans, atheists, etc., who don't identify with Jesus and the person leading the prayer is forcing their religious belief on others. As an atheist, I never bowed my head but I sat quietly while the prayer was said.

IMO, any commander, officer, NCO, civilian, etc.who tries to invoke their religious belief on military members should never be in a position to lead or influence others.

3catwoman3

(29,221 posts)
123. Based on your post, I think you left out a word...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:04 PM
Tuesday

...and mean "should NOT be in a position to lead or influence others."

And I agree, completely.

LogDog75

(1,246 posts)
145. Thanks for catching that.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:15 PM
Tuesday

Instead of using the word "no" I edited my post and used the word "never."

RetiredParatrooper

(151 posts)
44. The only difference between these people and the Taliban/Al Qaeda...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:08 AM
Tuesday

...is the word they use for god.

johnnyfins

(3,712 posts)
91. I'm sure Fuckabee has a tent all set up
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:20 PM
Tuesday

Near Tel Megiddo, just waiting for the battle. :/

NOT! He doesn'tt believe any of it. He's just hangin out for the grift...

Aussie105

(7,820 posts)
56. Had to Google "Immanentize the Eschaton" for meaning.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:47 AM
Tuesday

So the message is that this is God's divine will, Armageddon, the imminent return of JC?

My understanding of US style military religion must be way off.

Seriously, do some people really wish for the End of Days, the rapture, the 'JC comes down to Earth' thing?

Evil in the name of religion is still evil, even more so.

Kaleva

(40,320 posts)
69. Could be a made up story. Just as dangerous.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:32 AM
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Would show that people are easily deceived by articles they want to believe to be true even if not.

Kaleva

(40,320 posts)
104. Do you have a link to where they confirm this?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:15 PM
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Edit: Another never provided a link in their reply to my post.

markodochartaigh

(5,422 posts)
100. Here is the link to Mikey Weinstein's story
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:04 PM
Tuesday

MRFF Inundated with Complaints of Gleeful Commanders Telling Troops Iran War is “Part of God’s Divine Plan” to Usher in Return of Jesus https://share.google/mGzjznclAkbBJLb5c

maxrandb

(17,383 posts)
126. And for God's sake, wear clean underwear!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:30 PM
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That's what my mom always said. Whether a car wreck, or the second coming, you don't want to be caught with dirty underwear.

What would the neighbors think?

LogDog75

(1,246 posts)
148. With Charmin Ultra Soft, Scott Comfort Plus, or Angel Soft for the Bible humper-thrumpers?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:20 PM
Tuesday

Ilsa

(64,238 posts)
130. A few loaves & fishes will last however long he stays, but get your
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:41 PM
Tuesday

own wine. There's no guarantee he can turn processed city water into booze. No bacon or ham, no dairy mixed with meat (he's Jewish).

ZDU

(1,198 posts)
64. FFRF.org
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:12 AM
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Freedom From Religion Foundation

So many believers are evil people... sick and evil

Ray Bruns

(6,229 posts)
66. I predict that when Jesus doesn't show up, a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:25 AM
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But, in true cult fashion, they will grab onto the next date.

LogDog75

(1,246 posts)
150. Doesn't matter, they're eaisly fooled into something else
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:22 PM
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Mel Brook's History of the World Part 1 is an example of how gullible they are.

bluestarone

(22,015 posts)
72. Doesn't surpise me at all
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:37 AM
Tuesday

Our enemies finally discovered the weakness of our country. RELIGION!! We are in big trouble folks. If i remember, the civil war was pretty much fought for this very reason. Remember John Brown? He was a religious IDIOT!

hatrack

(64,722 posts)
73. What a crock of SHIT!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:39 AM
Tuesday

Wooba-gooba!!! Jeezus gonna turn on the Holy Hoover!!!

Give. Me. A. Fucking. Break.

bluestarone

(22,015 posts)
74. Nothing like telling a soldier he's (she's) dead before he (she) even leaves our country.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:40 AM
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WOW!! just WOW!!

Clouds Passing

(7,818 posts)
81. Armageddon wouldn't happen unless there were people intentionally causing it.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:12 PM
Tuesday

IDIOTS. MORONS. BRAINWASHING THE TROOPS! What could go wrong

Hope22

(4,667 posts)
89. It wouldn't be the first time they used that line!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 12:47 PM
Tuesday

Did it come with a pocket full of pills? This is all so infuriating! Over and over again. Follow the rat trail and the likes of Bill Barr traced back to Epstein’s beginnings, was also in the cellar post Nixon with all of his crooked buddies. They have never stopped plotting against this country. So many years destroying the lives of Americans. It feels like a nightmare or living hell. The two are coming closer and closer together!

NNadir

(37,839 posts)
90. Ah...its like the days of my youth. A much loved aunt...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:03 PM
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...was a Jehovah's Witness and every political event was a prelude to the end of the world and the return of Jesus and a Kingdom of "God."

I loved my Aunt a great deal, but the most interesting effect on my life was to lead me to atheism. When my father and she got into big religious arguments I realized they were working with different translations of the Bible, and thus the Bible had no meaning. One could make it say whatever one wished.

The world will end someday, oh course, but it's nit going to involve Jesus and the confusion between an orange pedophile and Jesus.

tazcat

(272 posts)
92. Why doesn't anybody talk about consequences for following ILLEGAL orders???
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:25 PM
Tuesday

I am ashamed of the Army I served in. During the first stolen term I prayed that the military wouldn't fall otherwise we'd be fcked.

OMGWTF

(5,080 posts)
93. FUCK RELIGION -- ALL OF THEM!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:32 PM
Tuesday

If you have a working conscience, you don't need any of this crap.

GreenWave

(12,548 posts)
94. They try to force the Apocalypse to placate the Christo-fascists who will themselves be destroyed.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 01:49 PM
Tuesday

HeartsCanHope

(1,635 posts)
96. My parents were evangelical. They did not believe in the Rapture or Armageddon.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 02:05 PM
Tuesday

Their church taught that Revelations is an allegory, not what is to come. In fact my parent's church taught

that what was in Revelations had already happened in Roman times. They did not elaborate much on

that theory, but that's what they said. All they taught about the end of the world was that we would meet

Jesus in the sky and go to Heaven. No big war or anything other than that.

So not all evangelical groups believe in Armageddon or the Rapture.

My husband, son, and I lived in Israel for a year and went to Tel Meggido, a ancient fortification in the northern

part of the Jezreel Valley. That was the first time anyone told me that Armageddon, (Tel Meggido,) was an actual place!

The tour guide told us that this was where the world was supposed to come to an end in a huge battle.

Being an Israeli Jew, he didn't seem too worried about Armageddon! He was much more interested in talking about

the archaeological history than the Bible. Being a fortification, Tel Meggido had an impressive water system so

that the people there could withstand a siege. It was a beautiful site, and I really enjoyed my tour.

Here's a link to Trip Advisor with photos:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g297758-d320072-Reviews-Megiddo_National_Park-Nazareth_Galilee_Region_Northern_District.html

I am more concerned about our troops not having their personal religious beliefs trampled on than some weird MAGA

Armaggedon conspiracy theory. Thanks for the article. Going to look up the MRFF and their findings.

greatauntoftriplets

(178,866 posts)
101. That's creepy as hell to this non-believer.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:08 PM
Tuesday

Presumably I'll escape the Rapture, but I hope that they don't bomb the bejesus out of this country for those of us who are left.

JohnnyRingo

(20,793 posts)
103. Though it's not surprising, I'm shocked! If that's possible
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:09 PM
Tuesday

How many in the upper echelons of power will buy into this "Onward Christian soldiers" nonsense?
God help us, so to speak.

valleyrogue

(2,672 posts)
106. Complete insanity.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:20 PM
Tuesday

It is a complete misreading of what is often called by theologians apocalyptic fiction, the Book of Revelation. This goes back to at least the 1800s with that Darby crap if not before.

It is a complete misinterpretation of a book that has been debated over whether to be included in the Bible for literally centuries.

liberalla

(11,023 posts)
107. I really despise mixing religion with military... same with with government!
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:22 PM
Tuesday

It is honestly UNamerican to do so! Despite all their protests and reasoning!

Martin68

(27,541 posts)
109. That is some scary shit. Religious maniacs in charge of our military? What could go wrong?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 03:37 PM
Tuesday

BBbats

(303 posts)
114. I Know The US Air Force Is A Hotbed Of This Thinking.
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:02 PM
Tuesday

I was never in but I have Inlaws & people I know who were Air Force lifers.
They all went full bore Christian Nationalist after being in for awhile.

LogDog75

(1,246 posts)
155. I served 28 years in the AF
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 09:41 PM
Tuesday

When these Christian Nationalists are pushing their beliefs in every aspect of your military work and personnel life the thing they hate is when you push back by either questioning the behavior or calling them out for what they're doing. They know most people are civil when religion comes into the workplace and won't say anything negatively against the Christian Nationalists. The rely on others silence to make it appear the people they're pushing their beliefs on accept it. The key is not to be afraid to stand up and challenge them. The thing I learned early in my career is knowing how far to take it. For me, that was questioning and challenging what they said and making them defend it. I've done that and at first, they'll try to defend themselves and when they fail they start calling themselves "victims" of anti-Christian bias.

I'd rather explain myself to my commander than to let them go unchallenged. Commanders aren't stupid and they can see through the Christian Nationalists fairly easy. Most people are fearful of retaliation if they challenge or don't agree with the Christian Nationalist commander but that fear is a two-way street. That commander has to be aware their commander(s) above them may not approve of what the commander is doing and they could be relieved of their command.


Response to Fozzledick (Original post)

Americanme

(463 posts)
119. So, we have people in high positions who think they are fighting for their invisible friend?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 04:41 PM
Tuesday

Shouldn't they be fighting for the American people? All of the American people, even those who believe differently? I think those people should be removed from their positions, they are not sane enough for an important job like that.

3catwoman3

(29,221 posts)
124. This bullshit reinforces my thinking that rather than...
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:13 PM
Tuesday

...this statement, "...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States," we should have a religious test - no one but agnostics and atheists should be allowed to run for office.

Or some sort of provision to keep out the religious fanatics.

hermetic

(9,209 posts)
125. This is spelled out
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:18 PM
Tuesday

word for word, in chapter 25 of The Last Odyssey by James Rollins, written before 2020. I was just listening to it and was gob-smacked by the whole thing. WTAF??

LetMyPeopleVote

(178,585 posts)
127. It's all about the Apocalypse: Another disturbing reason behind the right wing's pro-Israel obsession
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:33 PM
Tuesday

As a Jew, it is common knowledge the support from the American religious right is due in some part due to a belief that the existence of Israel is essential for their belief in a second coming.



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/apocalypse-another-disturbing-reason-behind-right-wings-pro-israel-obsession
Politics professor Elizabeth Oldmixon explained in an interview with Vox the strange thread of Christianity that fosters an apocalyptic vision the inspires much of the right-wing support for Israel.

�These are the folks who believe that there will be a millennium in the future, a golden age, where Christ reigns on Earth, [and] they believe that before Christ will return, there will be a tribulation where Christ defeats evil,� she said. �There will be natural disasters and wars, and perhaps an Antichrist, as the book of Revelations notes. Then at the end of that period, the people of the Mosaic covenant, including the Jews, will convert. Then after their conversion, the great millennium starts.�

She continued: �You have this group of people looking around for signs of the end time, and in the 20th century when Israel was founded, this was seen as a major sign. This was electrifying for that community because the gathering of all the Jews in exile to the Holy Land is a prerequisite for all of these events unfolding. So for the subset of evangelicals in the 20th century, support for Israel became a really, really important political position.�

And as evangelical Christianity grew into a central part of the GOP�s coalition, pro-Israel policies became cemented in the party�s ideology.

The alliance between the evangelicals and pro-Israeli Jews, though, is a peculiar partnership. The Christians enter into the bargain with the assumption that, when they reach their goal of the apocalypse, any Jews will either become Christians or go to hell. But their pro-Israel allies don�t seem to mind this much, perhaps because they don�t believe this version of the apocalypse will ever actually come to be � and as long as it is just a fantasy, their interests and those of evangelicals remain aligned.

For example, the US embassy in Israel by trump to appease these nut cases. This story may be crazy but the nut cases who want an apocalypse worry me

Ilsa

(64,238 posts)
128. Maybe aliens will cosplay "angels" and take these idiots
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 05:33 PM
Tuesday

away from Earth so the rest of us can try to manage the planet properly.

Response to Fozzledick (Original post)

Martin Eden

(15,537 posts)
139. If Jesus returns to earth, will he smile favorably upon
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 08:34 PM
Tuesday

Those who bombed a girl's school into rubble and corpses?

Beartracks

(14,540 posts)
159. So these mortal fools think THEY can initiate Armageddon?
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 10:49 PM
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Jesus will come back on His own terms, at a time of His choosing. Hey, Christian extremists: you know not the day nor the hour, even if you think you just have to stage all the props and set dressing for it. You are not Jesus' stage manager. You may as well be trying to mix magic ingredients in a bubbling cauldron in the right order and chanting spells to produce the results you desire -- a decidedly non-Christian way to do anything.

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