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What will be the price for deferment when Trump starts rounding up Americans to fight his wars? (Original Post) dalton99a Monday OP
Good Question . Bread and Circuses Monday #1
My grandson will be 25 next month. I may have to kidnap him. Deuxcents Monday #2
During Vietnam a lot of them went to Canada... ananda Monday #3
No one is going Greg_In_SF Monday #4
I hope not. I have the deepest respect for our men n women in our services..my mom n dad served in WWII Deuxcents Monday #5
Sen. Graham doing yeoman's work on this one: Kingofalldems Tuesday #7
First, KRASNOV is grift above all, always with a new grift. Second, the Draft is Vietnam poison. UTUSN Tuesday #6

ananda

(34,982 posts)
3. During Vietnam a lot of them went to Canada...
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 05:16 PM
Monday

and stayed there until Carter's amnesty.

My sister's ex-husband was one of them.

He also could have bought his way out if
that was an option, but those days were
different than today's.

 

Greg_In_SF

(1,236 posts)
4. No one is going
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 05:56 PM
Monday

to be “rounded up” LOL.

We fought in Afghanistan for 20 years and no one was rounded up.

We’re in to this one ten days

Deuxcents

(26,554 posts)
5. I hope not. I have the deepest respect for our men n women in our services..my mom n dad served in WWII
Mon Mar 9, 2026, 09:31 PM
Monday

Having said that, this administration does not respect our military, our fallen heroes or even the rules of engagement. To attack like we’ve been doing is unlawful and unconstitutional and I dare say, immoral. TSF and his family are profiting from this and it’s no secret. All of us..mothers, fathers, families, friends should be outraged at this administration and their actions and attitudes towards war, conflicts or even killing fishermen in the Caribbean and Pacific.

UTUSN

(77,598 posts)
6. First, KRASNOV is grift above all, always with a new grift. Second, the Draft is Vietnam poison.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 12:00 AM
Tuesday

The biggest lesson from Vietnam for the warmongering class was: Never Draft, because the Draft stymied the whole enchilada.

* NOT casting asparagus on the protest movement of Vietnam, but it wasn't all about Peace and Anti-war. The Draft was a significant factor of resistence. And the resistence took various forms for the draftees - such as, all us Civilians not buying into military say-so. It meant that draftees didn't magically turn into good little militarists. Yip, in the latter years, things like fragging happened - not only resenting military orders but knocking off the authority figures - "By the end of the war, at least 450 officers were killed in fraggings; the U.S. military reported at least 600 U.S. soldiers killed in fragging incidents with another 1,400 dying under mysterious circumstances.[11][12]" - because the Civilian draftees didn't have their hearts into the whole demolishing of individuality and just blind following orders thing.

* So, for the CHEENEE-RUMSFELDs, lesson learned, they went for "all volunteer" model - that was their main lesson learned from Vietnam. Meaning multiple tours for the enlisted members, 3 or 4 or more years instead of the one year tours in Vietnam.

************ So will Deferments be for sale - uh, we're talking KRASNOV here! He sells (tries) everything - visas, citizen, pardons whatever. Actually, nothing new, richies paying Poors to take their place dates at least to the Civil War.




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