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[PeaceWave]

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[stopdiggin]

1. Amusing ... And, still - the whole 'alienation of ..' schtick is so ludicrous and hopelessly antiquated ...

Kinda' hard for regular people - like those that live in the 21st century - to sort of get their heads around there being any real merit ...

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[FascismIsDeath]

2. Yea it has roots in the idea that your spouse is your property, women being the property of their husbands...

...was the idea it was really intended for. Of course this is a reversal of that role with Sinema.

Its a stupid law and should no longer exist.

[stopdiggin]

12. and again - the idea of a 'home wrecker' - let alone the notion that it is something

for which another can or should be held criminally liable .....
Is profoundly backwards and antediluvian. Next up - sex outside the bounds of marriage! Or between people of different race? (or approved gender?) Puritans values on parade! Yay!

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[bottomofthehill]

29. It is not a criminal charge

There is no jail time. It is civil, a marriage is a contract, the suit is for breech of contract. How do you feel about alimony. It in a similar vein

[stopdiggin]

31. precisely ! You think I should be able to sue for 'alimony' against third part actors?

(for which we might add, no 'contract' exists?)
The idea is not only antediluvian - but also patently ridiculous.

'Alienation of affections' - - - - - - - - - - - - 'Property rights', 'possessions', "able bodied field hand for sale" anyone ... ?!

And, yes - quite right about criminal verses civil proceeding (which we were all aware of - a poor choice of wording / heat of the moment on my part) - while the sticking point remains a claim (moreover the ridiculous concept) of actionable 'damages'.

Go after the person with which you do have a contract, slash relationship/understanding with. The third party has nothing to do with it - (other than an attempt to 'sweeten the pot', and search for deeper pockets? - - and perhaps a rage against the world and all within reach of my flamethrower?)

[FascismIsDeath]

15. Those states being Democratic doesn't shield them from the valid criticism that they are ass backwards....

...in regards to having a law like this on the books. As I said to another poster, anyone who claims to be progressive minded and is "okay" with laws like this still existing in the US in the year 2026 are kidding themselves about their progressive mindedness. Sinema is a trashy person but bad law is bad law. Its not quite on the level of "anti-sodomy laws" intended to target people who are gay but its in that same trajectory. Its the kind of legislation that fundamentalist Christian nationalists would cream their pants over... (and then they'd turn around and pass another law to punish themselves for said pants creaming).

[EdmondDantes_]

21. Unfortunately principle can go out the window when it's a "bad" person

Yeah, cheating sucks, but it's weird being the morality police.

[NJCher]

5. Hey if some ho like sinema

Came along and effed up my partnership, causing me enormous economic distress, not to mention the emotional, I would be damn grateful to have this law and I would sue until hell froze over.

I would take great joy in coming up with my discovery questions, too.

I have never been able to figure out what people who engage in this sort of behavior are after.

[PJMcK]

7. Agreed

But since it takes two to foxtrot, I doubt this is a circumstance you or I will ever face.

[stopdiggin]

13. the idea of 'cheating' as criminal offense, or actionable behavior .....

"the sacred bounds of marriage !!"
Ugh !!

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I refer you to post #12

[NJCher]

17. I don't even believe in marriage

If you have children, maybe.

All I care about is not interfering with someone else's relationship. When you do that, as you can see from the story, it upsets living arrangements, economics, puts another person through a nightmare--and for what? So you can have a momentary fling?

Do the responsible thing and get out of the relationship before you go down that path.

[stopdiggin]

20. the only person you have any sort of (legitimate) grievance with

is the person that has made some sort of 'commitment' toward you. Any other(s) - are purely tangential to either that commitment, the relationship, living condition - or any damages done therein.

The idea of someone coming along and 'poaching' on your innocent and unsullied territory ... Is pure fantasy and at base fictional legerdemain. Sorry - but I cannot agree with even the basic tenets or proposition regarding argument for, as you would put it, "interference". Your partner is the one who strayed. Full stop.

[NJCher]

22. Men are easy targets

Most of them, anyway. Fortunately not mine.

I don't even know why anyone would mess around with a married person. It seems like a dead end to me. Waste of time. I can't respect anyone who would do it. To me it says they have no self respect.

It always surprises me that people won't hold out for the best for themselves.

[FascismIsDeath]

14. The responsibility lies with your partner.

If I ever cheated on my wife, that would be 100% on me. I'm not going to do such a thing but if I did, I and I alone am to blame for it.

No progressive minded person should ever be grateful that such an antiquated, bullshit law exists. Sinema can still go screw herself with a rusty rake but its not about her.

[NJCher]

18. Damages exist

there needs to be recourse, and I'm glad there is.

[FascismIsDeath]

19. There ALREADY is recourse. Its called a divorce settlement.

No one should but your spouse should owe you anything if they break their vows.

Your idea of fair recourse is very, very right wing leaning.

[NJCher]

23. you won't understand this

but I've got a Scorpio ascendent.

Also, stop labeling beliefs as right wing or left wing. This is called stereotyping. Not everything is as black and white as you'd like it to be.

[FascismIsDeath]

24. You're right, I'm not superstitious, so I have not "understanding" of that.

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And no, some beliefs are actually just left wing or right wing while others may not be so black and white. I will continue to call them as I see them.

[NJCher]

25. Well, that's amusing

Try packing a few more English errors into only a few lines. You go, guy! You tell ‘em!

[LisaL]

11. I agree that it shouldn't exist, but it does.

She is arguing she isn't liable because the cheating occurred outside of North Carolina. The argument doesn't seem convincing to me.
I guess we will have to wait and see.

[FascismIsDeath]

16. Seems valid to me if you agree that states shouldn't be able to enforce their laws on people in other states.

That, at its core, is no different than Texas trying to prosecute women who go to another state to get an abortion or if they tried to prosecute someone for going to Colorado to smoke weed or they went to Nevada to get a prostitute.

Actually that last one is very interesting, can some woman from North Carolina sue the Bunny Ranch if her scum bag husband decided to pick up a prostitute on a trip to Vegas?

[LisaL]

27. Looking more into this,

sounds like North Carolina will be able to enforce its law if Sinema contacted him via internet or phone calls (to entice him from his wife) while he was in North Carolina. I guess we will have to wait and see if this lawsuit will be allowed to proceed.

[jfz9580m]

4. I feel the same way

About “outrage to modesty” . I am Indian and that is how they refer to sexual harassment in legalese here and I have frowned over that one.

Like the protagonist in Daphne Du’Maurier’s “Rebecca”, I find “modesty” a confusing word.

Sure, I have verifiably (thanks to our lovely surveillance state - yeah I will do something about that) lead a very non-lurid life outside my one vice, drink and mind altering substances.

Hey don’t judge me! You should see the shit I had to deal with! I am not defensive either!

And I am now on a regimen of medical marijuana and modafinil that works out well and keeps me away from alcohol which is a carcinogen.

But absent a civilized society I like to inform the meninists and creeps that a potty mouth, a penchant for ribald humor and a history of overindulgence in alcohol and substances, do not translate to: I 😍 creeps! Come over boys exploiting poor data hygiene!

This is a sexual harassment PSA since we no longer have any rules!

Because I am a very considerate woman, I feel obligated to communicate that surely it is not even in one’s friendly neighborhood creeps’ own interest to encroach into the lairs of the immodestly belligerent!

I do feel bad for women deprived of even the resources I have to stick it to these douchebags. I will definitely do something targeted some day . Targeted so the non-creep bro contingent does not add to the nuisance by taking it personally and piling in grunting “what about my right to be a thick-headed brute in my own lane? Huh? Huh?”

Yes! In your own lane! Stay there grunting you Darwin Awards candidates..

But the creeps are another matter. They really make life difficult for working women. I have become a kind of auto-didact wrt a working understanding of creep and brute sociology .

I am glad I have a sense of humor..this would have been far worse without it. It is extra scary since these hacker types I can’t stand are probably part creep and part this grunting but non creepy types ..hopefully they are not all creeps. That seems unlikely based on my observation. But those are in surface interactions.

I would like to take the creeps out without that brainiac type also piling on. That is too many people. And some would be the type of unfortunate overworked techie who isn’t either and has to pick up for those other shitheads and while underpaid. I feel sorry for those people too. The whole thing is a mess. I bet a lot of local “ai” is just exploitative gig work that should not exist.

The things one had to think about in this ghastly law of the jungle implementation that replaced what used to be a more civilized society (than this anyway) just 20 years ago..

Bloody Facebook and Google and their totally creepy worldview. Like they would totally maliciously pretend not to get it and be all “well I don’t want to be accused of being a creep..grunt grunt..here I will mangle up all your devices and now you should take a coding class to fix it!” The hell I will. What I will do is efficient (!) low effort mockery of these transparently sleazy gambits. I am not taking a damn coding class and the old rules will be updated for this environment.

What did they think? That women will just meekly subside and walk into the various caricatures they game easily? It is a good thing that I am careful in complaint filing and will only target the truly creepy, malicious etc.

Didn’t their own comic book people say something about great power and responsibility? Dolts..😤

Gotta be careful with that type. Who knows how much they understand of any of the data they extract and exploit. This is the full blown Idiocracy and it is not the Machiavellian types even..It is the pure boneheaded type that really worries me (creeps aside) as they would need to be talked down from laying waste to everything.

“No exit” means exhaustive guessing about what is on the other side and a careful, targeted pushback. A scalpel not a sledgehammer.

As for the rest it is a generally cynical crowd that projects and so pretty much everything is sus (except apparently hacking, data mining, snooping and being one layer above at the very least the least snoopy). Oh well…

[Skittles]

28. it is indeed fucking ridiculous

"s/he's just not that into you" comes to mind

[Buns_of_Fire]

6. That Senate Cloakroom must be one swingin' place. nt

[SocialDemocrat61]

9. That and the theater 😉

[SunSeeker]

8. I love this for her.

[miyazaki]

10. She spent a lot of time screwing around, literally

The lawsuit reads like the antics of a teenage concert groupie.

Hope she loses badly.

[Keepthesoulalive]

26. A scorned party may want their pound of flesh

It appears Sinema has more of what a scorned woman wants.

[yellowcanine]

30. No sympathy for Sinema but "homewrecker" lawsuits are stupid.

The main problem is with your marriage partner, not the “other woman.” Dragging her through court will do nothing to ease your grief and bitterness. He would (and probably did) have done it with someone else if Sinema had not been there.