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Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:42 AM Jan 2013

You know, Obama may have achieved health care reform--

Something that had not been accomplished since Truman had tried. He may have gotten the first tax rate increases since 1993, but he just isn't a leader. He doesn't know how to get things done.

On edit:!I thought it was obvious, but.....

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liberal N proud

(61,195 posts)
10. With the influx of trolls this morning, one can never tell
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jan 2013

That is why we have the smile.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
4. The man is a walking train wreck of failure.
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jan 2013

Especially given how much support he enjoys in congress and from his own party.

awake

(3,226 posts)
6. Actually since it was not passed till 2013 it was a Tax cut not a increases
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:49 AM
Jan 2013

Obama reestablished Democrats as strong on defense, good in foreign affairs, looking out for workers.... and now he is a Tax cutter.

unblock

(56,199 posts)
7. Well if you want to be that way,
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:57 AM
Jan 2013

Obama signed the tax hike deal last year that set up this fiscal cliff nonsense in the first place. Either way you look at it, Obama engineered a significant tax increase on the rich.

awake

(3,226 posts)
11. You are right I like to think of it as Obama protected the middle class for a Repuck tax hike
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 01:11 PM
Jan 2013

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
8. Health Care Reform:
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jan 2013

Universal, single-payer, NOT-FOR-PROFIT health CARE.

Not mandated for-profit insurance with premiums that equal a small mortgage, and whose copays and deductibles put much care actually outside of the budget, leaving some of us paying premiums for insurance we can't afford to use.

 

JReed

(149 posts)
9. The heatlh care reform you refer to
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jan 2013

was written by lobbyists in the medical and insurance industry. Not too difficult to imagine their ideas of reform.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
12. You people will just have to settle for victory
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 04:22 PM
Jan 2013

Being principled to your ideology at the expense of governing is not leadership.

So sad that so many of you are bereft of logic and maturity on this point.

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