Trump says he is not afraid of "Vietnam style combat" in Iran

[senseandsensibility]

As Ron Filipkowski put he certainly was afraid of Vietnam style combat.

It would be funny if it weren't so INSANE! Of course he's not afraid of Vietnam syle combat NOW because it's someone else doing the fighting!

And get ready folks, just because it is insane, hypocritical and the opposite of what he promised the American people doesn't mean it can't happen.

[Ocelot II]

1. He was afraid enough at the time that he got a doctor to phony up a "bone spurs" diagnosis.

[senseandsensibility]

3. Yeah, that's what Filipkowski is pointing out

If we had a working WH press corps there would have been follow ups about his hypocrisy, but they're skeered.

[enid602]

12. Dr

A Dr whose landlord was one Fred Trump.

[leftstreet]

2. Heh. Iran isn't either

Moron

[FarPoint]

4. What does he know ???

Nothing . He is a draft dogger for the elite ...

[no_hypocrisy]

5. Then why all those deferments?

[Dan]

6. He does not have a solution or answer to the Iran problem.

He will go all in because the alternative is to admit that he was wrong - and he has not the character to do that.

I hope that I am wrong, but also what he says is right. He is not afraid of Vietnam style combat cause he ain’t gonna go.

[Hey Joe]

32. Absolutely

He knows his fat, useless ass won’t be fighting and dying in the conflict HE created.
Same as it ever was for this entitled nepo-baby.
Enshittify everything and let others figure it out and suffer the consequences of his stupidity.

[C_U_L8R]

7. Maybe he should consider Persian-style combat

Dude’s got his head in another time, on the wrong side of the world… that he also knows nothing about.

[Blue Owl]

8. Send his fat ass over there on the battlefield amidst the suffering and carnage

We'll see how brave he is then...

[MiHale]

9. Hey Trump...eat shit and die...

Please excuse me … mental purge.

[AZJonnie]

10. Well we know that per IQ47 on Howard Stern, "Vietnam-Style Combat" just means "avoiding STD's"

So, yeah, he probably isn't afraid of continuing his brave (some say the bravest the world has ever seen) battle against the clap

[Norrrm]

17. Yes... Trump's equivalent "Vietnam-Style Combat".

[calimary]

35. OMG!!!

I feel so bad for ALL the REAL men and women who actually DID enlist, train, and ship out to Vietnam to “fight for our country”. That includes all of those who lost their lives over there, as well as all of those who came home crippled for life, either physically or mentally or emotionally.

And this yellow-haired candy-ass who never got his hands dirty (and never had to) has the gall to sashay around talking about what a brave “soldier” he was, with his “personal Vietnam” story.

Personal Vomit Is more like it.

[flvegan]

19. Probably fairly easy to avoid STDs by sticking to raping little girls. n/t

[AZJonnie]

49. We have waaaaay more conclusive evidence Trump rapes adult women vs. little girls

So your statement doesn't quite grok for me, but okay

[Jack Valentino]

63. What does the rapist who refused to use a condom know about 'avoiding STDs' ??

[AZJonnie]

73. See post #17

If you're unfamiliar with the quote I'm referring to

[RockRaven]

11. The Dotard is incapable of admitting he got BADLY played by Netanyahu. Again.

He is incapable of admitting he listened to a pair of handpicked arrogant incompetent fools (Kushner and Witkoff) instead of an enormous body of experts who have spent their entire lives studying the political and military history of the region.

He is incapable of admitting that he does not know what to do to get out of this, just like he did not know what he was doing when he started this.

Because he cannot admit these things -- even to himself, never mind the public -- to protect his pathetically weak ego, he will double down and escalate. As is his pattern, as is consistent with being the fragile bullying bullshitter that he always has been.

[roamer65]

13. Ah...the war Cadet Bonespurs avoided.

[Vinca]

14. Time for Commander Bonespurs to suit up, grab a weapon and head into combat.

[GopherGal]

57. Give him a rifle and a helmet and parachute him in...

If he declines to wear the helmet for fear of harming his hair, oh well.

[malaise]

15. Except that he doesn't know WTF he is talking about

STFU blabbermouth

[patphil]

16. We lost way over 50,000 soldiers in VietNam.

That's just the dead, there were a lot more wounded, and even more who were psychologically damaged.
And in the end we had to beat a hasty retreat.
This is what Trump isn't afraid of. After all, he's not going to get hurt, and he's won't be running for reelection, regardless of what he says. He also doesn't care what happens to the republican party, as long as he's able to gather up all those billions of dollars being a corrupt president is making available to him.
The future of the nation isn't important to him since he'll be dead; the mess he leaves here is of no concern to him.

The only things that would bother him are seeing all the buildings and other things that he put his name on having his name removed. The same goes for that idiotic ballroom he's building being torn down.
Most of all he'd hate to see all the people whose historical accomplishments he buried being lifted back up where they belong, and once again set above him.
In other words he sees the world through the eyes of an insecure narcissist, who needs constant reassurance as to his greatness. Losing all those false acknowledgements of his worth would be the worst thing that could happen to him.
And that's what he fears.

[ArtisticAlexis]

31. Use the "Ballroom" as the the Future Home of a New DEI & USAID Building Named After Obama

Since there's zero chance they'll just tear the Ballroom down, make it home to all the programs Trump & Elon cut that hel black & brown people & name i after his favorite president Obama!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

71. Welcome to DU

[Attilatheblond]

72. Way to enter the room, ArtisticAlexis!

Welcome to the site. Looking forward to reading more from you.

[Norrrm]

38. Trump did not want to be seen with wounded soldiers

Angered by invite to wounded soldier: "Nobody wants to see that"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218292155

After Trump went over to congratulate the captain for his performance, the then-president asked Milley, who as JCS chairman served as Trump's principal military adviser, within earshot of others, "Why do you bring people like that here? No one wants to see that, the wounded." He also told Milley to never let Avila make a public appearance again

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

18. Because his personal Vietnam was dodging STDs

[Goonch]

20. ;-{) Trump In Nam

[Ray Bruns]

65. The hands are too big.

[City Lights]

21. Of course he isn't. He won't be the one putting his life on the line.

He is filth. A toxic dump of a human.

His "personal Vietnam" was avoiding STDs from raping so many women/girls/boys back then.

I despise him with every fiber of my being.

[0rganism]

22. Oh great, so now we're doing Lord Farquaad impressions again?

[twodogsbarking]

23. The one thing we have learned from history is that we don't learn from history.

[TBF]

24. Good - send him. He can take Baron, Don Jr, and Eric w/him. nt

[twodogsbarking]

26. Great idea, they can Cheney each other.

[ShazzieB]

48. If only.

The maximum age for joining any branch of the military is 42. At 48, Jr is several years too old, but Eric is exactly 42, so he could still qualify, at least until his next birthday. Barron is the right age, but he's probably too tall (the maximum height allowed is 6'8" and he is 6'9" by most available estimates).

Disappointing, isn't it?

[cab67]

25. Someone should show him Last Days in Vietnam

It's an excellent documentary from PBS' American Experience series.

Not that it would make much of a difference, but maybe some of the people around him whose brains aren't Swiss cheese will pay attention.

[ananda]

27. LOL. That's bc he doesn't have to go there himself to fight.

He has his own personal cannonfodder to do that
and help him raise money off dignified transfers.

[rsdsharp]

28. He was sure as hell afraid of it when he thought they might hand him a rifle.

[aeromanKC]

29. Fuck you cadet bone spurs!!

[A_Steel_Magnolia]

30. Gemini Christmas

Just comparing jungle warfare to desert warfare is the dumbest thing I've heard lately. The man just needs to sit down and shut up. What an embarrassment!

[modrepub]

33. Phony Instant Gratification

He and just about everyone else seems to think the US can gather, equip, brief, transfer and deploy our troops in a matter of hours or days.

Sorry, but this takes many weeks or months. In the interim time, the economics of the current situation will probably deteriorate to desperation levels rushing this operation along at an even faster pace. And rushing anything that will be this complicated isn’t going to go well especially if Russia, China and India provide support.

I hope TACO materializes before something stupid is done. And I also hope when this is finally over there’s a thorough airing of laundry and those responsible earn a trip to The Hague; I’ll gladly contribute to their defense but it’s time for some accountability at all levels.

[jmowreader]

59. We can deploy three Army Brigade Combat Teams (BCT) in about one week

The three divisions of XVIII Airborne Corps that have no heavy equipment - the 82d Airborne Division, the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) and the 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry) all have a mission to deploy one BCT 18 hours from initial alert to wheels-up.

(Disclosure: my first unit after graduating from Advanced Individual Training was the 101st Airborne, and my last unit before leaving the Army was 10th Mountain.)

What we DO NOT have is enough airlift to put all three units into Iran at the same time. We have enough to put one of them in, so IN THEORY what we'd do is send in 5th Special Forces Group to turn two miles of straight road into a forward airfield, probably insert the Division Ready Brigade (DRB) of the 82d by parachute, send the C-17s used to insert the 82d to Fort Campbell, airlift the DRB of the 101st into Iran, then send them to Fort Drum to pick up the 10th Mountain's DRB.

Unfortunately for Trump, the Iranians have air defense systems that are good enough to shoot down a C-17. They also have enough missiles to foil any attempt at taking Iran by air, and the number of the commander of Russian Air Defense Forces on speed dial when they need more missiles.

"But what about landing in a friendly nation and invading over land?" That's another place Iran has an advantage. Iran is surrounded by seven nations: Iraq, Türkiye, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Türkiye has a mercurial relationship with the US (and is too damn far from anything Trump would actually want in Iran, like the oilfields and Tehran, for ground troops to get there before the Iranians found them and fucked their shit up), four of them despise us and two are still pissed about those goddamned illegal wars Bush the Younger started against them in the Oughts. It's obvious, at least to me, that Trump is stupid enough to name the Iran War "Operation Iran Liberation" because that's what he really wants - not Iran's liberation, but what the initials of that phrase spell out. Trump doesn't care what kind of a dictator Iran has so long as the dictator will hand Trump their oilfields and the Kharg Island Oil Terminal so he can get the oil back to the US.

We have three choices here and none of them are that great.

Choice 1 is to try an aerial insertion and get (1) thousands of troops and (2) our entire C-17 fleet - a fleet we can't replace since the company that made those fantastic aircraft destroyed the tooling to do it as soon as the ones they made were complete - destroyed.

Choice 2 is to try a waterborne insertion. The Marine Corps trains extensively on amphibious invasion, but the Army COULD do it if they had to. Remember that the largest amphibious operation in the history of warfare - the Normandy invasion - was an Army operation. Unfortunately, the Iranians have A LOT of field artillery. Once again, say goodbye to a very large part of our military.

Choice 3 is to get rid of the Trump Administration in its entirety and hope the asshole who replaces our current asshole is a bit less bloodthirsty. I recommend boiling them in used motor oil because new motor oil is too precious to squander on this, but the Eighth Amendment has something to say about that.

[modrepub]

60. Choice Three Please

But I'd say send this lot to The Hague and let them explain and defend their actions. That would be my dream but we have too many yahoos who think submitting to an international court would set too much precedent. I say, if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to fear.

[Wonder Why]

34. so says the experienced combat vet. Disgusting Pig!

[appleannie1]

36. That is because he does not have to go. The bone spurs moved to his head and are poking his brain.

[Joinfortmill]

37. Can this draft dogging, fake President be any more of an asshole?

Wake up Republicans, this is what you've wrought upon your country

[stonecutter357]

39. OK send Barron !!

[Warpy]

40. It has the potential to be far worse than Vietnam

because the country is being headed by a military obsessed with martyrdom and who will take the entire country with them if they can, while Vietnam was mostly an anticolonial war in which the VC wanted to survive but without European colonists as their owners and masters.

The best outcome right now is if Congress forces an end to the conflict, removing the prospect of maryrdom at the hends of the west from the fanatics and leaving the vast majority of Iranians starting to ask some very, very hard questions (something most of them have a head start on, their government growing more unpopular by the minute).

This is why any invasion of Iran is a really, really bad idea and always has been.

[Mblaze]

41. Viet Nam style warfare

Nineteen years of hell to finally leave defeated.

[PXR-5]

42. "Nothing bad can happen, it can only happen good"

[GiqueCee]

43. This evil sonofabitch...

... cares more about his toe jam than he does about the American people and what his insanely misguided policies are doing to them, and to the entire world.
The room-temperature IQs that voted for this waste of skin deserve whatever happens to them. The rest of us do not. And now maybe they'll come to realize that they voted for Putin... by proxy. Way to go, assholes!

[ChicagoTeamster]

44. Vietnam was 60 years ago. It won't be Vietnam style. It'll be hybrid. Drones, insurgents, and conventional light forces

We will probably take out a lot of their armor but they will have some left that they will use strategically when they have an advantage such as taking out a hard point in a defensive position or for a martyr team to use as an armored car bomb to blast through heavily reinforced buildings and perimeter walls the way ISIS did in Iraq. They most likely will not engage our armor in tank on tank warfare.

And they will also have sleeper cells committing terror attacks all over the world.

[Talitha]

45. Strap a parachute on him and kick his fat ass out of a plane flying over Iran.

He'd let out The Shart Heard Round The World.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

46. Most military branches cap enlistment at 6 feet 8 inches.

Conveniently, Baron Trump's height is 6' 9"

He won't even have to find a quack doctor to create some bullshit malady to keep him out of Daddy's War.

[barbtries]

47. why would he be afraid?

3 reasons i can think of

his polls
his war
epstein

he knows he is losing in November and after that he'll be impeached asap. and he won't be acquitted this time.

[Wednesdays]

50. Oh, HE'S not afraid??

[ColoringFool]

51. But Trump DID Fight Then! He Fought Off Vicious STDs!!

He said his avoidance of STDs was his personal Vietnam.

[yourout]

52. Great .. suite up.

[OC375]

53. Big talk for a POG.

[Doodley]

54. When Trump says it won't be Vietnam style, does he mean Pete Hegseth has picked a new style of uniform for US troops?

[Bayard]

55. Sure

He wants a totally screwed up and endless Vietnam type war. Then, he can hand his disaster off to a Democrat president, and bitch about how Dems are incompetent.

[senseandsensibility]

56. Sounds about right

Can not believe how bad it's gotten. Dems need to spell out in very simple language that they are not responsible for any of this and how they will be different.

[Beringia]

58. He needs to link his name to past political fiascos to get attention

[Jack Valentino]

61. Good! As Commander in chief, he should lead the charge !!!!!!

"Get your ass to Iran!"

[misanthrope]

62. Go right ahead, Donnie

That would be political suicide.

[tazcat]

64. Who punched his ticket 5x in Nam???

[Farmer-Rick]

66. A lot of bravado coming from a pedo who

Just attacked one of the few areas of the world that managed to bomb a part of the states.

The world trade center was bombed as a symbol of capitalism. Now, I wonder what would symbolise pedo Trump dropping bombs on school children?

[usonian]

67. LOCK

[usonian]

68. HIM

[usonian]

69. UP --- AND DRAFT ICE

• They are already "trained" (in random violence against civilians. Checks one box)

• Bonespur "victims" have already been weeded out.

• They are already government employees and must go where assigned. (saves TONS of paperwork)

• They already have weapons, and unspent budget money.
• They already have swell masks to protect from radioactive dust that bombing reactors creates.

• They (probably) already have military haircuts, and (this is big)
• Their kill to loss ratio is infinite.

Danes agree!

[SergeStorms]

70. With those hereditary, debilitating, bone spurs.....

who can blame him, and everyone else named Trump (or with close associations with the aforementioned).

The poor have always fought old, rich men's wars.

As Forrest Gump would say, "they go together like peas and carrots." 🤨