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B.See

(8,353 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 04:58 PM Yesterday

Now Trump wants to execute journalists who won't lie about his Iran War

Trump launches new threat to journalists in late night outburst - Alternet via MSN



Donald Trump late Sunday floated “treason” charges against media outlets that he accused of reporting false information about the Iran war as the human and economic costs of his illegal military assault continued to mount.

In a tirade posted to his Truth Social platform, Trump wrote that media outlets he accused of circulating “fake news” should “be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information.” The maximum penalty for treason in the US is death.

Trump’s latest attack on the US media came after his Federal Communications Commission chair, Brendan Carr, threatened Saturday to pull the broadcasting licenses of media outlets he accused of “running hoaxes and news distortions.” Carr did not provide specific examples.

Trump said Sunday that he was “thrilled to see” Carr’s threat, railing against “Corrupt and Highly Unpatriotic” news organizations.



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Now Trump wants to execute journalists who won't lie about his Iran War (Original Post) B.See Yesterday OP
Bombing Iran for Israel - not treason leftstreet Yesterday #1
How about treason for allowing Russia to sell oil after they help Iran target Americans????? Vinca Yesterday #2
Careful there Cirsium Yesterday #5
As one of the know-it-alls that has often quoted the definition of treason in the Constitution, TomSlick Yesterday #9
The definition! Cirsium Yesterday #12
Pedantry? The definition of treason is not a minor detail. TomSlick Yesterday #14
Well, you schooled us Cirsium Yesterday #15
I agree with the definition of pedantry. TomSlick Yesterday #17
I see Cirsium 10 hrs ago #20
What magnificent eloquence! BattleRow Yesterday #16
He should start with Fox "News." City Lights Yesterday #3
Batshit cuckoo. raccoon Yesterday #4
To all those unserious voters who voted for this guy, please use contraception. ffr Yesterday #6
You had the Capitol violently attacked and then tried to wrestle the steering wheel from your driver twodogsbarking Yesterday #7
Can I guess which court he'd want to hear his charges of treason? Would Pirro possibly be involved? erronis Yesterday #8
Guilt by accusation. talking-liberally Yesterday #10
Treason? Oh go blow it out your ass, Donny! Initech Yesterday #11
Remember, this is the guy who B.See Yesterday #18
He didn't have to threaten them... GAJMac Yesterday #13
"brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information." Rob H. 23 hrs ago #19
Exactly. What's good for the goose... B.See 5 hrs ago #23
Projection Kid Berwyn 10 hrs ago #21
Spotless desk but B.See 5 hrs ago #22

Vinca

(53,885 posts)
2. How about treason for allowing Russia to sell oil after they help Iran target Americans?????
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 05:02 PM
Yesterday

Cirsium

(3,891 posts)
5. Careful there
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 05:33 PM
Yesterday

The know-it-alls will show to explain this all to you in the most condescending terms. "Technically blah blah blah." Apparently Trump can accuse us of treason, but we can't accuse him of treason because "actually, blah blah blah."

TomSlick

(12,990 posts)
9. As one of the know-it-alls that has often quoted the definition of treason in the Constitution,
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:40 PM
Yesterday

the Constitution is not a technicality. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution because the definition is important. The definition protects us from treason charges for angering Trump.

The fact that Trump throws threats of treason around is a poor excuse for Democrats doing so.

Trump's actions are disloyal, stupid, possibly espionage, etc., but not treason. Neither is pissing-off Trump.

Cirsium

(3,891 posts)
12. The definition!
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:49 PM
Yesterday

No definition protects us from anything. The protections supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution rest upon the good will of those in power. Absent that it is meaningless.

Arguing the definition of a term based on the Constitution is nothing but pedantry.

Fredrick Douglass:

Let me give you a word of the philosophy of reforms. The whole history of the progress of human liberty shows that all concessions yet made to her august claims have been born of earnest struggle. . .

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its mighty waters.

The struggle may be a moral one or it may be a physical one, or it may both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has and it never will. Find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

TomSlick

(12,990 posts)
14. Pedantry? The definition of treason is not a minor detail.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 08:01 PM
Yesterday

The Constitution forbids conviction of Treason for any action other than waging war against the US or aiding an enemy waging war against the US. Even the most MAGAt members of SCOTUS can't talk a way around that.

Trump is talking nonsense with his threats of treason charges. Democrats are smarter than that.

Cirsium

(3,891 posts)
15. Well, you schooled us
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 08:14 PM
Yesterday

I don't think anyone expects Trump to be tried for treason, nor will some definition protect any of us from harm at the hands of the regime.

Speaking of definitions...

Pedantic: narrowly, stodgily, and often ostentatiously scholarly

Pedant: one who is unimaginative, rigid, or overly concerned with minor details in the presentation or use of knowledge

Pedantry: slavish attention to rules, details, etc.; the habit to engage in the display of useless knowledge or minute observance of petty rules or details

Mansplaining: Talking to someone and suddenly feeling like you're back in a fifth-grade classroom with the know-it-all kid explaining how a caterpillar becomes a butterfly? Except now, it's not about insects; it's about literally anything you already know, and the "explainer" just happens to be a dude who thinks he's on stage at 'Mansplainapalooza.' Welcome to mansplaining: where condescension is king, and yes, it often wears a gendered crown.

TomSlick

(12,990 posts)
17. I agree with the definition of pedantry.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 08:52 PM
Yesterday

Pedantry: slavish attention to rules, details, etc.; the habit to engage in the display of useless knowledge or minute observance of petty rules or details. My point is that the US Constitution is not a petty rule or detail.

Unless it is unacceptable for males to disagree with you, the plea of mansplaining is sexist.

Cirsium

(3,891 posts)
20. I see
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 12:19 PM
10 hrs ago

Wow, are we ever learning now!

"My point is that the US Constitution is not a petty rule or detail."

That does not address what I said. Quoting the Constitution and then presenting that as the end all and be all rebuttal to those who are saying that Trump has betrayed the country - that is what I objected to. People here are familiar with the Constitution. Go lecture Republicans about that.

The word treason is variously defined as the betrayal of a trust; treachery; showing no loyalty to one's country; helping its enemies; trying to defeat its government. Trump is most certainly guilty of treason by that measure. That is as legitimate a measure as yours is, and much moire relevant to this discussion. Citing the Constitution is ridiculous because even if the Constitution said it was treason to wear orange make up Trump would no doubt walk. That means that even in the proper arena for your argument, the judicial system or law school, it would be detached from the real world. Here it is completely inappropriate and is usually used for the sole purpose of lecturing and scolding people.

"Unless it is unacceptable for males to disagree with you, the plea of mansplaining is sexist."

Does that mean that if it is acceptable for males to disagree with me then the plea of mansplaining would not be sexist? Thanks for mansplaining that for us! I bow down to your great wisdom. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me, so I guess therefore, according to you, the "plea of mansplaining" - plea of mansplaining? - is accurate and not sexist. A plea of mansplaining? Hmm. "Your honor, my client wishes to enter a plea of mansplaining." To which the judge says "I am denying that request based on the fact that a plea of mansplaining is sexist."

People who object to sexism are actually the sexists? Is that kind of like "reverse racism?" Fox News could run with that idea.

(Checking the top of the page. Yep, still on Democratic Underground...huh )

Now for a serious discussion on the topic of treason.

Prosecutor: Chicolini, you're charged with high treason. And if found guilty, you'll be shot.

Chicolini: I object.

Prosecutor: Oh, you object! On what grounds?

Chicolini: I couldn't think of anything else to say.

Firefly: (Bangs gavel) Objection sustained.

Prosecutor: Your Excellency! You sustained the objection?

Firefly: Sure, I couldn't think of anything else to say either! Why don't you object?

Prosecutor: Chicolini...When were you born?

Chicolini: I don't remember...I was just a little baby.

Prosecutor: Isn't it true you tried to sell Freedonia's secret war code and plans?

Chicolini: Sure! I sold a code and to paira plans! Heh, heh...(To Groucho) At's some joke, eh boss?

Firefly: Now I'll betcha twenty to one we find you guilty!

BattleRow

(2,378 posts)
16. What magnificent eloquence!
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 08:24 PM
Yesterday

Yep,everybody wants to go to heaven,but nobody wants to die.

I once read that chaos is the natural order of things,and it requires effort to create order.

You cannot substitute a wishbone for a backbone...and earnest struggle.

City Lights

(25,772 posts)
3. He should start with Fox "News."
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 05:12 PM
Yesterday

They've been feeding their viewers a steady diet of bullshit for decades.

ffr

(23,388 posts)
6. To all those unserious voters who voted for this guy, please use contraception.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:17 PM
Yesterday

As you can see, we have too many of people like you already, idiots who know not what they're doing in the ballot box.

These fascist threats must stop! This is not healthy for our country.

twodogsbarking

(18,589 posts)
7. You had the Capitol violently attacked and then tried to wrestle the steering wheel from your driver
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:19 PM
Yesterday

to go watch. Treason? You betcha.

erronis

(23,710 posts)
8. Can I guess which court he'd want to hear his charges of treason? Would Pirro possibly be involved?
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:30 PM
Yesterday

Or would there just be a secret Star Chamber hidden on a remote military base (or in Texas) that could render a verdict in 2-3 minutes?

10. Guilt by accusation.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:46 PM
Yesterday

He has committed treason by aiding and abetting our enemy, Russia, who is assisting Iran. The accuse others of what they do.

B.See

(8,353 posts)
18. Remember, this is the guy who
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 10:56 PM
Yesterday

gave a medal of freedom award to a murdered hate preaching demagogue who they billed as a 'champion of free speech.'

Apparently, 'free speech' applies only to THEM.

GAJMac

(266 posts)
13. He didn't have to threaten them...
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 07:53 PM
Yesterday

The billionaire media owners will take care of the threats, and if necessary, the firings.

Rob H.

(5,837 posts)
19. "brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information."
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 11:52 PM
23 hrs ago

He disseminates false information literally all the time. Charge him first.

B.See

(8,353 posts)
23. Exactly. What's good for the goose...
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 06:02 PM
5 hrs ago

Some refuse to fight dirty while their opponent kicks sand in their faces. Some kick sand right back.

'Better than that' is a p-poor excuse for losing.

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