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LearnedHand

(5,416 posts)
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 11:06 AM 21 hrs ago

Either You Mean Fascism or You Don't (Tad Stoermer)

https://open.substack.com/pub/tadstoermer/p/either-you-mean-fascism-or-you-dont

I really appreciate Stoermer and those like him who are ringing the alarm bells about why simply waiting for the next election is not an adequate response to the TSF “administration.”

Establishment Democrats are using the word fascism. Not fringe members. Not the people party leadership keeps at a careful distance so streaming news anchors and talking heads can reassure viewers that the adults are in the room. The ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee. Sitting senators. The chair of the Democratic National Committee. They are telling the public that what the United States faces is not a bad president, an erratic executive, or an unusually dangerous political opponent. They are telling you it is fascism.

That word is not a mood. It is not a synonym for cruelty or corruption or reactionary politics. It points to a specific threat with a specific historical record. And that record is unambiguous about what happens when politicians identify the danger correctly and then insist on sticking to the rules of normal politics anyway.
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Either You Mean Fascism or You Don't (Tad Stoermer) (Original Post) LearnedHand 21 hrs ago OP
Any suggestion on a course of action? Walleye 21 hrs ago #1
This message was self-deleted by its author leftstreet 21 hrs ago #2
Stoermer's suggestion LearnedHand 21 hrs ago #4
I don't see that as actual suggestions muriel_volestrangler 20 hrs ago #6
Take to the streets. Buzz cook 19 hrs ago #7
That's a good suggestion, but many of us are old Walleye 19 hrs ago #8
Lots of old folks Buzz cook 17 hrs ago #10
DURec leftstreet 21 hrs ago #3
This Bluesky thread is about what "go along, to get along" gets us. Swede 21 hrs ago #5
I'm sensing a little sarcasm in that post Walleye 19 hrs ago #9

Response to Walleye (Reply #1)

LearnedHand

(5,416 posts)
4. Stoermer's suggestion
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 11:22 AM
21 hrs ago
They cannot have it both ways. They cannot invoke the tradition of anti-fascism while remaining committed to the etiquette of managed dissent. They cannot summon the memory of Europe in the 1930s and refuse the central lesson of that history: once the threat is real, half-measures do not hold the line. That is where republics die.

If they mean it, act like it. If they don’t, say so. Because we already know what happens when political actors see the danger, name it, and still refuse to leave the boundaries of a normal politics that no longer exists. We know what comes after that. And we know what it costs.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,106 posts)
6. I don't see that as actual suggestions
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 12:50 PM
20 hrs ago

That may be because he doesn't want to commit to writing the conclusion that you must break laws to defeat fascists who are in charge of a country. It may also mean he's just thinking of things like "expand the Supreme Court to get rid of the conservative majority", but he implies "something" needs to be done before future elections, so that seems like something else.

Buzz cook

(2,887 posts)
7. Take to the streets.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 01:46 PM
19 hrs ago

It increases the number of people that know they are not alone. That has a carry on effect which gets more people involved creating a virtuous circle.

Buzz cook

(2,887 posts)
10. Lots of old folks
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 03:05 PM
17 hrs ago

Are at the protests. Many in wheel chairs.
But if standing outside with a sign is not for you, then drive by the sign wavers and honk your horn to show support. We really like that.

Swede

(39,305 posts)
5. This Bluesky thread is about what "go along, to get along" gets us.
Thu Mar 19, 2026, 11:29 AM
21 hrs ago

Remember, folks! If and when Democrats ever take power again in Washington, it's VERY important that they respect all the norms and laws that the Republicans are shattering.

When Trump pardons everyone? Oh well, nothing we can do! Visiting consequences upon the lawbreakers would be unlawful!

The Frito Bandito (@thefritobanditoo.bsky.social) 2026-03-18T22:44:31.955Z
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