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Perspective... (Original Post) dkf Jan 2013 OP
perspective. did they say they were suppose to fix it all in ONE year? nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #1
No but it's such a baby step and if we make the rest permanent... dkf Jan 2013 #4
he has other things working on the numbers, this is not the only way. it has been decreasing seabeyond Jan 2013 #6
If the tax side is "settled" then that leaves spending. dkf Jan 2013 #8
The "tax side" is not a side, taxation is part of the revenue side JHB Jan 2013 #19
As in taxation vs spending. dkf Jan 2013 #20
I'm viewing this on my iPad, and I was waiting, waiting for the entire graph to load, gateley Jan 2013 #2
Some additional perspective PETRUS Jan 2013 #3
Great links, thanks! Cal Carpenter Jan 2013 #17
We heard not a peep about deficits while Dubya was resident Fumesucker Jan 2013 #5
Well if the Democrats have joined the group that has no comment... dkf Jan 2013 #10
Fiscal sanity would involve stimulating the economy to the point the deficit is moot Fumesucker Jan 2013 #13
You supported the Bush tax cut and its extension RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #14
I did not support the Bush tax cuts. dkf Jan 2013 #15
Yes, you did RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #18
Anyone who looks at the budget knows the Bush tax cuts were unsustainable. dkf Jan 2013 #21
Shouldn't the red graph be in "trillions"? kentuck Jan 2013 #7
This is "3rd Way" "Centrist" government inaction RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #9
So because deficit we should cut ss benefits, right? Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #11
Those programs need to be fixed in and of themselves. dkf Jan 2013 #12
They aren't broken. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #16
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
4. No but it's such a baby step and if we make the rest permanent...
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jan 2013

Where is the path ahead for a better picture?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. he has other things working on the numbers, this is not the only way. it has been decreasing
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jan 2013

steadily and this is just another. for every 62b received that debit number reduces at that amount. it is another start. he started "starting" four years ago.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
8. If the tax side is "settled" then that leaves spending.
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jan 2013

That's the other part of the problem.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
19. The "tax side" is not a side, taxation is part of the revenue side
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:25 AM
Jan 2013

Stimulating the activities that get taxed also boosts revenue.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
2. I'm viewing this on my iPad, and I was waiting, waiting for the entire graph to load,
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jan 2013

then realized I had to scroll WAY down to see the tax increase amount. Yikes.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. We heard not a peep about deficits while Dubya was resident
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 02:53 PM
Jan 2013

And yet as soon as Obama was elected every single Republican and M$M talking head immediately set their hair on fire and ran around screaming about deficits.

Perspective.



 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
10. Well if the Democrats have joined the group that has no comment...
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jan 2013

We are really doomed.

Democrats are supposed to be the party of fiscal sanity or that's always what I thought. We clean up after the Republicans trash the house, but no, now we participate in the messiness. Not good.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. Fiscal sanity would involve stimulating the economy to the point the deficit is moot
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:15 PM
Jan 2013

Moot because tax proceeds would then be enough to substantially reduce or even eliminate the deficit.

Austerity doesn't seem to working out so well for Europe.

But the Republicans have no intention of allowing sufficient economic stimulus, that's where the majority of the problem lies.

RandiFan1290

(6,710 posts)
14. You supported the Bush tax cut and its extension
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jan 2013

Stop pretending you aren't part of the "messiness"

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
15. I did not support the Bush tax cuts.
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:49 PM
Jan 2013

I do acknowledge it isn't advisable to raise taxes when the concern is a deflationary spiral.

But I've always believed our long term solvency rests on Clinton tax rates or something similar.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
21. Anyone who looks at the budget knows the Bush tax cuts were unsustainable.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jan 2013

Now I look at the Obama tax cuts and see the same unsustainable future.

Argh.

We need Howard Dean!

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
11. So because deficit we should cut ss benefits, right?
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jan 2013

Or some other austerity idiocy. I know, raise the age limit on medicare!

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
12. Those programs need to be fixed in and of themselves.
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 03:06 PM
Jan 2013

They are part of a larger picture that we will need to attend to some day. But the sooner the fix the easier it is to do and to prepare.

Saving for retirement can't be done adequately if you start at age 50. The younger you are the better your chances.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
16. They aren't broken.
Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jan 2013

SS in particular is doing fine. If sometime in the future it needs more revenue just end the cap.

Medicare needs more revenue, but really our piecemeal patchwork healthcare system is the problem, not Medicare. All suggestions to raise rather than lower the age of eligibility are criminally stupid.

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