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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFilipkowski explains Fetterman - He grew up rich, never had a job? No military
Lays out perfectly our trajectory of how we supported him and "dragged him across the finish line."
Norrrm
(5,095 posts)UTUSN
(77,795 posts)Cha
(319,178 posts)a True Dem, Conor Lamb.
Goonch
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rampartd
(4,647 posts)but maybe oz would not do as much damage as a senator as he does to medicare/medicaid.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)Not only the PA Dem voters but our wider Dem encouragement and donors. The OZ harm there or here wouldn't make most Dems pick OZ in any case based on speculation back in real time, no?
rampartd
(4,647 posts)like most of the trumpetocracy. (rule by the loudest ? or rule bt the brassyest? maybe both)
karynnj
(60,978 posts)I didn't live in PA, but MSNBC played the wonderful video responses they made highlighting every Oz misstep.
karynnj
(60,978 posts)There were only 50 Democratic Senators then so Harris broke a lot of party line ties. In the second two years, we had lost the House, so having 51 Senators was only good for confirming nominations.
oasis
(53,703 posts)Skittles
(171,791 posts)it is.....against the rules to call him a piece of shit
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)fujiyamasan
(1,734 posts)Ass holes serve a purpose, just like Fetterman (after all, we need his seat to remain blue, but not much else).
karynnj
(60,978 posts)"Never had a job" ignores that he was mayor and then lt Governor before being a Senator. If you don't count government jobs, Bill Clinton, who was an AG and then governor when he the first ran for President, had only a small period in between as a college law professor. Biden was a Senator at age 30 until he was VP. Public service counts as a job.
This is an attack that is more honestly that he was a career politician.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)karynnj
(60,978 posts)He may be someone backing most of what I agree with, but his goal is to get clicks and use what is out there.
I am not even sure how much a change there was in Fetterman as I know very little of his actions as Mayor or Lt Governor. Not to mention, relitigating whether he should have been our nominee is useless.
As the stroke was days before the primary and the seriousness was not known, it would have been unthinkable for an opponent to argue that it would be better for him to drop out. He had essentially already won the nomination at least from polling.
It also seems clear he will .be successfully primaried.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)bits that other DUers post here), but his take grabbed me because of the ongoing frustration about FETTERMAN (like with SINEMA and MANCHIN before) and learning the grew-up-in-a-rich-house and no-job (besides politician, thanks again). My "but" seems to be different from yours, but will leave it to the imagination - so much for my clarifying!
As for "how much a change" - I, too, know nothing about his views before the senatorial run - or really, even during it and now! - but FILIPKOWSKI filled in about how he adopted Bernie's Progressive stances (in preparation for the Senate run? ), so the change is about his current frustration to us.
Somebody else brought up the relitigating suggestion. It never crossed my mind and certainly not now preferring OZ or ever or even replacing FETTERMAN in the primary back then.