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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsi think ICE is permanent in airports now...
hes gonna starve TSA out, bring back masks and guns and pepper spray.
more pay to play nicely lines (enhanced pre-check line that you pay $xxx for with the money going to a swiss bank account)
imho.
themaguffin
(5,220 posts)In fact, I wish we could get to the airports close phase now. This is a real thing that will crush the GOP and Orange Caligula.
Autumn
(48,954 posts)FFS this is simply to give Ice more power
leftstreet
(40,627 posts)Anyone old enough to remember cringe photos and news items from countries where armed forces patrolled airports? It was like, oh wow that's so third world!
MineralMan
(151,249 posts)ret5hd
(22,500 posts)SSJVegeta
(2,843 posts)Now he is actively destroying the economy
newdeal2
(5,400 posts)Let them concentrate on the airports and stay off our streets. They cannot be everywhere at once. The Election Day polling stuff everyone is worried about will be even harder to pull off.
FakeNoose
(41,599 posts)American travelers and visitors to the US will not tolerate ICE agents. This is only temporary.
On the other hand, I can't predict the future of the TSA agents. Chump may succeed in busting the union. Remember when DHS was introduced in the early months of 2002? It's hard to believe that was almost 25 years ago.
Ollie Garkie
(356 posts)Americans have proved they will tolerate aaaannnnnyyyyyyyyttttttthhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggg! If not, there would have been a nationwide weeks long lasting general strike after Minneapolis. People aren't even rethinking non essential flying. I'd be over the moon to be proven wrong!
BannonsLiver
(20,582 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,677 posts)The entire population of ICE agents is only 22,000. (Which of course, is too many.)
But, the very large airports would need 60 or more each to cover the shifts. In no time, more than 10% of agents are doing nothing else.
There are over 2,000 medium to large airports so it would easily reduce the flexible workforce to under 50%.
And, the recruiting sucesses were dramatically slowing 6 months ago.
They just don't have the people.
This deployment is face saving move because with the PR based reduction in ICE actions, they need to justify doubling the agent base in under a year, without laying off all those "patriots" (aka drones) they just hired last spring.
stopdiggin
(15,449 posts)the ICE 'surge' was supposed to create 'numbers' (and headlines).
You're coming up empty at the airports. Lots of standing around. Millions of people with spotless documentation ...
walkingman
(10,850 posts)The constant crime narrative serves as great cover to expand the police expansions at the expense of taxpayers. The lines between local, state, and federal law enforcement and the military have blurred to the point that most people just accept it. They are everywhere....all work together united under the banner....POLICE.
Do you feel safer? I don't.
Vinca
(53,974 posts)Roc2020
(1,787 posts)people should not be travelling by air. If can't get there by car then don't go.
stopdiggin
(15,449 posts)róisín_dubh
(12,334 posts)My nephew is graduating high school in two months. My parents are aging. Neither of these things constitutes work or an emergency. Shall I board a container ship to get home? The QE2? I mean, Europeans have far better holiday schemes than Americans, but I can't exactly sit on a boat for weeks at a time to get home, and Elon's hyperlink hasn't yet come to fruition.
Trust me, if I didn't have to step foot in our godforsaken homeland ever again, I absolutely wouldn't and I'm counting the days until I have both my British and Italian passports. But I love my family and I'm not going to forgo important milestones because millions of Americans are fucking sociopaths and elected the biggest sociopath of them all. I say this as someone who doesn't own a car and eschews air travel in Europe whenever feasible. Might want to qualify your statement just a bit.
Roc2020
(1,787 posts)outlined travelling by air is necessary. But at this point economics will have to talk. Enough people cancel flights; the airlines start hurting the faster TSA get paid. Money or cutting the flow of money talks, especially with this obscene greed chasing thieving wh admin.
stopdiggin
(15,449 posts)IronLionZion
(51,253 posts)they go through standard or precheck like anyone else, they just don't have stand in line because they paid the annual fee.