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surfered

(13,539 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:14 AM Mar 25

Why would Iran negotiate?

They already negotiated an agreement with the six world powers in 2015 that Trump tore up.

They were in talks with Trump about renegotiating that agreement when he launched his surprise decapitation strike.

They’ve learned that Trump (the US) cannot be trusted and they know they “hold the cards now.”

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Why would Iran negotiate? (Original Post) surfered Mar 25 OP
Until Israel stops bombing targets Johonny Mar 25 #1
Indeed, Trump lacks authority to negotiate David__77 Mar 25 #3
Or the skills. bluesbassman Mar 25 #14
It's a pretty interesting situation and not surprising. David__77 Mar 25 #2
Why would anyone negotiate with us? Midnight Writer Mar 25 #4
Putin and Bibi ordered Krasnov to get the US involved in the war, gab13by13 Mar 25 #5
Il bacio della morte. Delizioso! erronis Mar 25 #9
According to Senator Whitehouse's research, wnylib Mar 25 #22
I suspect... GiqueCee Mar 25 #24
No trust for the USA + boots on the ground + No Kings the_liberal_grandpa Mar 25 #6
I bet my golf clubs gab13by13 Mar 25 #7
And those 4 Eyes ain't letting the lone Eye in on any of their secrets. erronis Mar 25 #10
And you'd win that bet. paleotn Mar 25 #20
No one except Trump's hard core supporters wnylib Mar 25 #23
Because waiting for Trump to get distracted isn't a better plan? EdmondDantes_ Mar 25 #8
There are bad guys in the world (Russia, North Korea, etc), but we're not bombing them. surfered Mar 25 #13
I'm not sure how that relates to why Iran would or wouldn't negotiate EdmondDantes_ Mar 25 #16
Maybe if we sent a Catholic or a Protestant to negotiate? pwb Mar 25 #11
It appears that Tr**p has his moob caught in a wringer Drum Mar 25 #12
Sadly true - he's trapped on this one TBF Mar 25 #15
He makes decisions? Seems he is a big ameoba that just reacts; no thought involved Attilatheblond Mar 25 #19
Yep, even when he negotiates and agreement like the USMCA he does not honour it Bev54 Mar 25 #17
Why Would They Negotiate? modrepub Mar 25 #18
Whatever is agreed to swong19104 Mar 25 #21
And sadder still . . . markpkessinger Mar 25 #25
I watched a lot of the Malcolm Nance video that was posted in this thread. gab13by13 Mar 25 #26

Johonny

(26,205 posts)
1. Until Israel stops bombing targets
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:34 AM
Mar 25

Last edited Wed Mar 25, 2026, 11:04 AM - Edit history (1)

Negotiations are sort of LOL. Trump is in the middle of a war only he suddenly doesn't want to play while everyone else appears more than happy to fight it out.

David__77

(24,772 posts)
2. It's a pretty interesting situation and not surprising.
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:36 AM
Mar 25

Trump can choose to lose face now, or lose even bigger later.

And Iran would be pretty stupid to participate in negotiations that Israel is not a direct party to.

Midnight Writer

(25,435 posts)
4. Why would anyone negotiate with us?
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:40 AM
Mar 25

The fool wakes up in the morning and starts figuring on which laws, trade deals, treaties, financial obligations he is going to break next.


gab13by13

(32,360 posts)
5. Putin and Bibi ordered Krasnov to get the US involved in the war,
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 10:57 AM
Mar 25

Krasnov has to obey Putin, he is a Russian agent. Maybe Bibi has a copy of the Epstein files?

Now that we are a participant in a war with Iran the first step that Krasnov should be taking is to convince Bibi to stop bombing Iran, and he can't do that. Israel is not going to negotiate any deal with Iran, it wants Iran wiped off the map. How can anyone believe that negotiations are making progress when Israel wants no part of negotiations?

If Putin tells Krasnov to put US Marines on the ground, Krasnov will obey. If Putin asks Krasnov all of the details of the Marine invasion, Krasnov will obey and then Putin will relay those details to Iran, Krasnov is a Russian agent.

Putin and Bibi want this war to keep going, Krasnov has no way out, there is only one way out of a mob, the kiss.

wnylib

(26,076 posts)
22. According to Senator Whitehouse's research,
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 12:54 PM
Mar 25

Putin, Netanyahu, and Trump were all connected to Epstein.

GiqueCee

(4,305 posts)
24. I suspect...
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:28 PM
Mar 25

... that Trump is more likely considered an asset; he's too stupid to be an agent, because an agent is supposed to be able to think. The difference is probably purposely vague, but either way, he's a fuckin' traitor, and even the room-temperature IQs that still support him are beginning to see the light, as dim as it may be in their foggy brainpans.

6. No trust for the USA + boots on the ground + No Kings
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 11:01 AM
Mar 25

Little to nothing the administration has negotiated anywhere in the world has been honored.

Absolutely no one in the world should negotiate directly with us.

We used to send peace-keepers to negotiate tough situations.

Someone that both sides could trust.

The felon won't let anyone else get credit for anything so that won't happen

But it is definitely what needs to happen.

BTW- It looks like US troops may start their invasion this weekend (after the 5 day fake pause to control the stock market)



And recall that after each No Kings protests the orange shit stain does something dastardly and evil. (tear down the East Wing)

paleotn

(22,261 posts)
20. And you'd win that bet.
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 12:38 PM
Mar 25

UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand aren't sharing dick with the US. That would be the same as sending the info directly to the Kremlin or virtually any other bad player, un-encrypted, using your personal email account.

wnylib

(26,076 posts)
23. No one except Trump's hard core supporters
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:06 PM
Mar 25

believes that his 5 day "reprieve" for Iran is anything but a stalling move to get US ground troops in place.

For sure Iran is not fooled and is prepared for this.

EdmondDantes_

(1,812 posts)
8. Because waiting for Trump to get distracted isn't a better plan?
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 11:19 AM
Mar 25

Sure long term Trump can't be trusted, but he's also a crap negotiator and Iran is currently being bombed. Not trying to end that isn't great as a government, and considering how many of their leaders have died, not good for their own life expectancy. Sometimes a bad deal is the best you can do. Just because Trump sucks doesn't make the Iranian government good guys. Sometimes everyone involved sucks and between the Iranian government, the Israeli government, and the US government, there aren't good people at the helm.

surfered

(13,539 posts)
13. There are bad guys in the world (Russia, North Korea, etc), but we're not bombing them.
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 11:45 AM
Mar 25

The message Trump sends is that we can bomb anyone anytime unless they have nuclear weapons. I assume Iran will now move heaven and earth to develop them.

It’s also worth noting Iran was a secular democracy until they nationalized British oil interests and the CIA and MI6 fomented a coup in 1953 that installed the Shah which led to their revolution and an autocratic Islamic government.

EdmondDantes_

(1,812 posts)
16. I'm not sure how that relates to why Iran would or wouldn't negotiate
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 12:08 PM
Mar 25

Iran was most likely already working to develop nuclear weapons. But you could apply that same logic to any of our bombings under Biden, Obama, Bush, etc. Likewise Russia or Israel. The only significant direct conflicts between nuclear armed countries that I can think of is India and Pakistan and even those have been limited. Obviously having nukes is a strategic benefit. That's nothing new.

Calling Iran a democracy in 1952 is a stretch. Not saying we should have overthrown the government, but the leader had just dissolved the Iranian parliament and was clearly moving increasingly to an overt dictatorship. Again not saying we should have staged a coup, but it wasn't a good government before we screwed up and the the Islamic revolution screwed things up even more.

Oh and the same guy was Shah of Iran from 1941 to 1979. We didn't appoint him Shah. We centralized power under him as he was deemed a better dictator than the prime minister who was nationalizing the oil in a rejection of the deal signed previously.

pwb

(12,695 posts)
11. Maybe if we sent a Catholic or a Protestant to negotiate?
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 11:37 AM
Mar 25

Kushner and Witcoff must rub the wrong way.

Attilatheblond

(8,923 posts)
19. He makes decisions? Seems he is a big ameoba that just reacts; no thought involved
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 12:33 PM
Mar 25

He sees a threat or an opportunity, but NEVER sees how things are connected. So he just continues to kick over dominoes and expects other to pay for and fix the damage.

He has no actual faculty for decisions. He just has 'feelings'.

Bev54

(13,438 posts)
17. Yep, even when he negotiates and agreement like the USMCA he does not honour it
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 12:27 PM
Mar 25

The whole world has realized that, finally.

modrepub

(4,117 posts)
18. Why Would They Negotiate?
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 12:29 PM
Mar 25

Probably to stop the beatings (bombings).

I'd say there are very few truly safe places in Iran right now. Probably severe shortages and skyrocketing prices. How much longer can you ignore these problems?

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran caves at some point. Yea, both sides are suffering in their own ways, but Iran is probably suffering way more. And while Iran's leadership may be able to negotiate some way out of this and save face, the people of Iran are going to be the ones who suffer the most. Only time will tell whom they blame more, their oppressive government or the US and Israel.

And to be clear, I consider this whole gong show to be completely Trump's fault.

swong19104

(626 posts)
21. Whatever is agreed to
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 12:49 PM
Mar 25

with Trump is not worth the paper it’s written on. Trump just won’t abide by his negotiated agreements. He just won’t.

markpkessinger

(8,918 posts)
25. And sadder still . . .
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:41 PM
Mar 25

. . . is the fact that Trump's bad-faith actions (i.e., launching a strike while negotiations were supposed to be in progress) will impact the U.S.'s credibility as a negotiating partner for years to come!

gab13by13

(32,360 posts)
26. I watched a lot of the Malcolm Nance video that was posted in this thread.
Wed Mar 25, 2026, 01:57 PM
Mar 25

There is a Saudi security expert on the video who has heard several sources claiming that Saudi Arabia and the UAE paid Krasnov a lot of money to invade Iran.

That explanation makes the most sense for our invasion of Iran.

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