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SamuelTheThird

(1,174 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:06 PM Monday

Trump Tells Aides He's Willing to End War Without Reopening Hormuz

WASHINGTON—President Trump told aides he’s willing to end the U.S. military campaign against Iran even if the Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed, administration officials said, likely extending Tehran’s firm grip on the waterway and leaving a complex operation to reopen it for a later date.

In recent days, Trump and his aides assessed that a mission to pry open the chokepoint would push the conflict beyond his timeline of four to six weeks. He decided that the U.S. should achieve its main goals of hobbling Iran’s navy and its missile stocks and wind down current hostilities while pressuring Tehran diplomatically to resume the free flow of trade. If that fails, Washington would press allies in Europe and the Gulf to take the lead on reopening the strait, the officials said.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-iran-war-strait-of-hormuz-ee950ad4?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqdHR79drw7I_TVYrq0F2B4sWdt1T3zKNbC80PMKeGCLsfCuH2NVME6aYRcNNc0%3D&gaa_ts=69cb2138&gaa_sig=PdVJnT9paObiyANB7CJActd8b1im_S0loUyKZ25JMTU-pXilf9J5vp1hSukRq6ikvRFu3199A8OMerJQEl1j8A%3D%3D


who the hell knows at this point

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Trump Tells Aides He's Willing to End War Without Reopening Hormuz (Original Post) SamuelTheThird Monday OP
IOW Skittles Monday #1
Either that or he thinks he's being slick and he's going Scrivener7 Monday #6
time to take gramps keys Blues Heron Monday #2
In football, it's called a punt. surfered Monday #3
So this whole mess is pointless? Besides the death and injuries of our troops, allegorical oracle Monday #4
Yep, Fuck shit up, declare victory. flying rabbit Monday #5
that tracks dweller Monday #7
He and his "crew" Blue_Roses Monday #8
So if trump finds an out by declaring victory, does Israel follow suit? yonder Monday #9
Just another trip to bankruptcy court. hay rick Monday #10
He is telling other Middle East countries to taxi Monday #11
Everything he touches dies, including the world's economy. harumph Monday #12
SO MUCH WINNING. Maru Kitteh Monday #13
TACO LudwigPastorius Monday #14
Every Day is TACO day! Renew Deal Monday #15
So he's going to quit, and leave our allies with a Hormuz problem? GoodRaisin Monday #16
The US isn't going to solve it through committing more crimes. David__77 Monday #18
Not debating that. GoodRaisin Monday #20
Stopping military action now, today, is the right thing to do. David__77 Monday #17
Open the fucking straight!!! Throw Stephen Miller in the dumpster where he belongs already! Initech Monday #19
They should deploy the Ben Shapiro for sure. David__77 Monday #21
So..... Declare he won and then RockRaven Monday #22
Not The Onion Kid Berwyn Tuesday #23

Skittles

(171,795 posts)
1. IOW
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:07 PM
Monday

it's the Trump playbook: create a mess, declare victory, leave others to clean up the mess

Scrivener7

(59,540 posts)
6. Either that or he thinks he's being slick and he's going
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:19 PM
Monday

to ramp things up somehow. I'm hoping your scenario is the right one because there's no good way to ramp this up.

allegorical oracle

(6,489 posts)
4. So this whole mess is pointless? Besides the death and injuries of our troops,
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:11 PM
Monday

and spending $2 billion a day, what did he accomplish? When he took office, Hormuz was open and functioning. It closed due to his ordering an attack on Iran. He needs to be impeached.

flying rabbit

(4,974 posts)
5. Yep, Fuck shit up, declare victory.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:13 PM
Monday

Let someone else pick up the pieces. Lather, rinse, repeat.
LEEEROY JENKINS!!!!

Blue_Roses

(13,884 posts)
8. He and his "crew"
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:34 PM
Monday

are in so over their head. With gas prices soaring, the choke-hold on the Strait of Hormuz, inflation, etc., his "advisors" see the writing on the wall. Now to try and figure out how they are going bail out and still look like they accomplished something. That's probably more what their "talks" consist of, rather than "talking" to Iran.

yonder

(10,294 posts)
9. So if trump finds an out by declaring victory, does Israel follow suit?
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:37 PM
Monday

Seems like Bibi will never be finished scorching the earth — they just got started with the Gazafication of Lebanon.

hay rick

(9,616 posts)
10. Just another trip to bankruptcy court.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:38 PM
Monday

Trump creates a mess and somebody else cleans it up. Trump leaves with his pockets bulging with sovereign wealth fund bribes, his cut from insider trading, and Polymarket blood money.

taxi

(2,716 posts)
11. He is telling other Middle East countries to
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:57 PM
Monday

get Iran off of his back, or else. He hints that they could be next, that errant missiles could hit a school anywhere?
Trump doesn't care who or how many have to suffer.
It's been said that the worst thing to do in a fight is to be so brutal that your opponent feels the need to settle a grudge.
The 25th is long overdue.

harumph

(3,287 posts)
12. Everything he touches dies, including the world's economy.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:08 PM
Monday

If something is flawed but still working OK, he'll find some way to fuck it up.

Maru Kitteh

(31,790 posts)
13. SO MUCH WINNING.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:12 PM
Monday

He’s bored. Nobody is really talking about him. It’s all about oil, and the price of oil, and the market, and the various countries in the ME, and only some of the talk actually involves him. The only people who are really excited about his war are Lindsey G. and Whiskey Pete. He wasn’t expecting MAGA to get cold feet. He wasn’t expecting a recession or gas to climb straight up like a hobby rocket in the engineering department at MIT. Also, he’s realized by now that his buddy Bibi led him by the nose into quicksand.

This “strategy” allows him to get even for that by screwing Bibi over, and blame former presidents of the US and nations of the ME for not “taking care of the problem sooner.”

Renew Deal

(85,192 posts)
15. Every Day is TACO day!
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:18 PM
Monday

That would be one hell of an embarrassing loss.

And the only reason he can claim that Iran's missiles were reduces is because they used them. They are littered all over the Middle East.

GoodRaisin

(10,929 posts)
16. So he's going to quit, and leave our allies with a Hormuz problem?
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:45 PM
Monday

That, in fact, he unilaterally brought upon them. They’ll really love that.

God he’s stupid.

David__77

(24,766 posts)
18. The US isn't going to solve it through committing more crimes.
Mon Mar 30, 2026, 10:50 PM
Monday

Today is the day to get out.

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