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highplainsdem

(62,134 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 08:37 AM 18 hrs ago

Hegseth is whining that the "big bad Royal Navy" isn't helping with the Strait of Hormuz

Hegseth: "The president was clear this morning in his Truth that there are countries around the world who ought to be prepared to step up on this critical waterway as well. Last time I checked there was supposed to be a big bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things like that."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-03-31T12:30:38.751Z
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Hegseth is whining that the "big bad Royal Navy" isn't helping with the Strait of Hormuz (Original Post) highplainsdem 18 hrs ago OP
Where's the "big bad" US military? leftstreet 18 hrs ago #1
Shut the fuck up! North Shore Chicago 18 hrs ago #2
I thought Hegseth planned for every contingency. surfered 18 hrs ago #3
He had a plan gab13by13 18 hrs ago #7
None of those countries was dumb enough to start another war in the Middle East. You started it, you own it. appleannie1 18 hrs ago #4
what is wrong with this guy? rampartd 18 hrs ago #5
Yeah, if he's already got Gaw-duh, why does he need the RN? hatrack 18 hrs ago #6
The UK has more horses for "the King's Guard" than it has tanks GreatGazoo 18 hrs ago #8
Da fuk? GenThePerservering 17 hrs ago #10
"501 horses ... 334 tanks" GreatGazoo 15 hrs ago #21
A-hem... EYESORE 9001 17 hrs ago #13
That Picture is out of date hardluck 12 hrs ago #22
Actually, You Don't Know, Do You? MineralMan 16 hrs ago #15
Let me get this straight MustLoveBeagles 18 hrs ago #9
The ships were getting through just fine until the US f'd it up. Katinfl 17 hrs ago #11
Trump, Hegseth growing increasingly exasperated with US allies nitpicked 17 hrs ago #12
Pottery Barn rule of international diplomacy Zambero 17 hrs ago #14
Hegseth is Totally Incompetent at the Job He Has. MineralMan 16 hrs ago #16
This mess is solely on Rapist. Let him clean it up. nt City Lights 16 hrs ago #17
Kegsbreath is a big bad boy. He can go fight his fucking war he started. Autumn 16 hrs ago #18
The UK ceded the "biggest, baddest Navy" status to the US in WWII... Wounded Bear 16 hrs ago #19
SNL is having so much fun with this guy. I think it's Colin Jost who plays him. CTyankee 15 hrs ago #20

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
7. He had a plan
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 08:49 AM
18 hrs ago

to invest in defense contractors right before the war started.

Sailing naval ships up to Hormuz will not be a picnic. There is a reason that our naval ships are parked out of range.

appleannie1

(5,457 posts)
4. None of those countries was dumb enough to start another war in the Middle East. You started it, you own it.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 08:41 AM
18 hrs ago

GreatGazoo

(4,606 posts)
8. The UK has more horses for "the King's Guard" than it has tanks
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 09:07 AM
18 hrs ago

Their navy is likely only these three replica Admiral Nelson tall-masted ships.

England is a free-range theme park.

GreatGazoo

(4,606 posts)
21. "501 horses ... 334 tanks"
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 11:33 AM
15 hrs ago
Behind the pomp and ceremony, the (horses and) troopers are tasked with protecting the Queen and her family. They also regularly serve overseas on operations and have frequently been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, riding out on patrols in tracked Warrior armoured-personnel carriers.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-22951548

hardluck

(783 posts)
22. That Picture is out of date
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 02:46 PM
12 hrs ago

HMS Ocean was decommissioned in 2018.
HMS Albion was decommissioned in 2025 and sold to Brazil.
HMS Bulwark was decommissioned in 2025 and sold to Brazil.
Of the four Vanguard class SSBNs, HMS Victorious has been in drydock since 2024 and will not be available until at least 2028.
For the Astute class, there are six commissioned, 5 in active service, and 1 in sea trials. One other hull is in construction.
All of the Trafalgar class are decommissioned as of 2025.
Of the 6 Type 45 (Daring class) destroyers, three are in retrofit, (Daring has been in retrofit for 8 years, but is about to come back to active service). That leaves only three active destroyers.
Of the 13 Type 23 (Duke class) frigates build for the Royal Navy, 6 have been decommissioned, 1 is in retrofit, and 6 are active.

There are also the two new carriers - HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales.

So currently, the Royal Navy has 2 carriers, 6 destroyers (only three of which are active), 7 frigates (6 of which are active), and various support vessels. This is a shell of the former Royal Navy, even when compared to just 20 years ago, or against the fleet that took back the Falklands. Indeed, the Royal Navy cannot fully man a carrier strike group for its new carriers without support from other countries (US, Netherlands, etc.)

In comparison, look at this picture of the pre-WWII Royal Navy.
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MustLoveBeagles

(16,387 posts)
9. Let me get this straight
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 09:18 AM
18 hrs ago

We won't lift a finger to help our allies but they expect these same allies to drop everything and help them fix their fuck up?

nitpicked

(1,834 posts)
12. Trump, Hegseth growing increasingly exasperated with US allies
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 09:45 AM
17 hrs ago

(snip)
09:12

Pete Hegseth and Gen Dan Caine's briefing at the Pentagon produced very little new information that helps the world understand the course of the ongoing war in Iran.

One thing, however, stands out: the Trump administration is losing patience with what it sees as a lack of involvement from its allies, particularly as it pertains to securing shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.

Earlier, the US president took to Truth Social, telling those allies to "build up some delayed courage" and "just take" the Strait.
(snip)

The defence secretary later suggested that that perceived failure may have long-term consequences for US allies overseas.
(snip)

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
16. Hegseth is Totally Incompetent at the Job He Has.
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 10:32 AM
16 hrs ago

He came to that job as a National Guard Major. Now, he's telling the military's brightest General officers and Admirals what to do, based solely on what Donald Trump tells him to do.

Donald Trump is incompetent in everything, and appoints people who are more stupid and unknowledgeable than himself to cabinet positions. So, it's the Ignorant telling the Incompetent what to do. That's why everything is so fucked up.

There are cluster fucks and there are complete disasters. The Trump administration is both.

Wounded Bear

(64,323 posts)
19. The UK ceded the "biggest, baddest Navy" status to the US in WWII...
Tue Mar 31, 2026, 11:08 AM
16 hrs ago

We've had it since then.

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