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Trump has a social media toddler tantrum after attending SCOTUS birthright citizenship hearing
Not long after having attended the Supreme Court hearing to hear oral arguments on the legality of ending birthright citizenship – becoming the first sitting president in history to do so – President Donald Trump took to social media Wednesday to lash out at the longstanding and constitutionally enshrined right, and with a claim that was blatantly false.
“We are the only Country in the World STUPID enough to allow ‘Birthright’ Citizenship!” Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social, just as oral arguments in the Supreme Court hearing had ended.
Despite Trump’s claim, birthright citizenship exists in dozens of countries, including the United States’ neighbors Canada and Mexico. In the United States, birthright citizenship was enshrined as a right in 1868 through the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Trump has long sought to eliminate birthright citizenship in the United States, signing an executive order on his first day back in office last year to challenge the longstanding precedent.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2676650259/
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FalloutShelter
(14,465 posts)this stupidity: THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION.
REMOVE HIM RIGHT NOW.
Don1
(1,672 posts)he never puts his hand on the Bible.
It was very strange that no one reminded him and no fundamentalist Christians said anything afterward.
You had Hair Furor standing in front of Melania Robot who held the Bible out in front of him. He just stood there without placing his hand on the book.
This was after he promised to be dictator on Day One. My thought is that he knew he would constantly challenge the Constitution beyond just day one. And that as a superstitious person, he didn't want to make the oath religiously sacred.
Where was the media? Where were the Christians? All the Republicans concerned over Presidential dementia? Not a peep.
Attilatheblond
(8,877 posts)Search: 'People who took oath of office without hand on a bible'
There is NO requirement for hand on the bible for oath taking.
And any self serving jackass who thinks hovering his hand over a particular religious tome, or crossing his fingers behind his back makes the oath non binding is really a 4 year old engaging in fantasy.
The issue, where Trump is involved is that he lies and never honors ANY oath, promise, or pledge. Hand on bible or up somebody's skirt, he does what he wants and damn any complaints by anybody. He has no honor and no intention to every do 'the honorable thing' unless he gets paid bigly.
Don1
(1,672 posts)I wouldn't put my hand on the bible because it would be meaningless or even misleading as an oath.
That's the point. Trump claims to be with the fundamentalist Christians. There's been no President in recent memory courting that group who has not placed his hand on the book during an oath.
The last President not to do so was Lyndon Johnson in 1963 because of extenuating circumstances of Kennedy's assassination. He was sworn in on Air Force One but used a Catholic prayer book. That is what they could find.
So since then:
Richard Nixon -- yes
Gerald Ford -- yes
Jimmy Carter -- yes
Ronald Reagan -- yes
George H.W. Bush -- yes
Bill Clinton -- yes
George W. Bush -- yes
Barack Obama -- yes
Donald Trump1 -- yes
Joe Biden -- yes
Donald Trump2 -- NO
If an atheist won as President and didn't place his hand on the book, fine, great even. I'd love it. BUT this isn't Trump and it says something.
Mossfern
(4,716 posts)or any book. He did say "I do" or something similar - that's what counts.
wnylib
(26,014 posts)
rampartd
(4,632 posts)
AnotherMother4Peace
(5,125 posts)I've seen seniors w/dementia that were loud and mean and cruel and chased everyone away and seemed "OK" on the surface, but were unable to really make healthy decisions for them or the people around them.
intheflow
(30,179 posts)"We are the only country in the world STUPID enough to force their citizens into medical bankruptcy." 
2MuchNoise
(768 posts)
mwmisses4289
(4,186 posts)So stupid voters aren't just confined to the U.S.
Wonder Why
(7,028 posts)lame54
(39,771 posts)Mblaze
(1,039 posts)Is a law in this country.
If it wasn't for birthright citizenship, only naturalized citizens would be valid Americans.
GiqueCee
(4,259 posts)... you can bet your family jewels that his next target would be naturalized citizens. His malice and depravity have no limits.
Even after the Central Park Five were totally exonerated by DNA evidence, the evil fuck STILL demanded their execution! It matters not that they were innocent, all that mattered to him is that he was proven wrong, and he never accepts that, regardless of how much evidence proves that he was. He is a textbook psychopath, and will never admit that he's wrong about anything. And the simple-minded skidmarks that still support him are just fine with that.
popsdenver
(2,303 posts)that this is Trump being used as a pawn/front man by the Stephen Miller 2025 crowd who are doing all of this from the shadows.
It is no different that WBush being used as a front man by the Cheney/Republican CABAL or Reagan being used as a front man for HWBush's/Republican Cabal...
We can't all keep saying Trump This, Trump That.......the Republicans will just say, it was Trump, and go on in the shadows with the agenda of the 2025 crowd.......START SAYING "THE REPULICANS" INSTEAD OF TRUMP, people.......
IN REALITY, It isn't Trump per se........It is the Republican Senators, Republican House Members, and the Republican Supreme Court Justices that put him in power in his first term, and have done everything/anything to corruptly/illegally keep him in power every single day, ever since. If those three groups had wanted, they could have done away with him in the first week of his first term. And certainly in his two legitimate impeachments........
Those three, along with all the Republican Corporations, and entirely Republican owned/operated Media have allowed him to do his off the wall shit, as long as they get what they want, and Putin gets whatever he wants, by extortion and blackmail of Trump and numerous Republican Politicians........
wnylib
(26,014 posts)GiqueCee
(4,259 posts)... the quintessential useful idiot. Until he's no longer useful, then... defenestration from the Trump Tower penthouse window, perhaps?
Mblaze
(1,039 posts)
Boomerproud
(9,292 posts)If SCOTUS does the legal and correct thing, he will explode 
flashman13
(2,403 posts) 
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)Bring on the explosion!
lastlib
(28,264 posts)
Renew Deal
(85,151 posts)Ilikepurple
(677 posts)I’m not saying this one isn’t, but most of Trump’s agenda, besides self enrichment and aggrandization, is either to settle petty beefs or part of a result of some right wing ideologue whispering in his ear. I am sure some of the current Justice’s wish the Constitution supported the end of birthright citizenship even more than Trump does, but I am hoping, like you, that they send the message that there is only so far they’ll go to support him or their personal right wing agendas.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)
AZ8theist
(7,377 posts)He's an "anchor baby", after all since Malaria is an illegal alien.
ShazzieB
(22,590 posts)Much as some of us might like to contest how her emigration to this country was engineered, I'm afraid it's too late for that.
Interestingly, she wasn't naturalized until Barron was almost 5 months old. He was born on March 3, 2006, and Melania became a citizen on July 28 of that year. However, there's no disputing that his father was and is a US citizen, so there's that. 😑
AZ8theist
(7,377 posts)....then why can't I ship out all of these fuckwads because I don't like their stupid last name????
I KNOW I'm just shouting at the wind, but holy shit am I so fucking sick of ALL of these assholes!!!
Dotard doesn't obey the law, so after he's gone we should employ extra judicial remedies, if necessary, to ERASE the Trump name and family and their enablers from our nation. No more of this "Move On" bullshit. ACCOUNTABILITY for crimes against America.
I will see myself out, thanks.
Beacool
(30,518 posts)Is that news to anyone?
Whip-poor-will
(246 posts)And we're the only country Stupid enough to elect trump twice, so there's that.
LeftInTX
(34,294 posts)They have it, but I know someone who tried it.
It took them several months to get the baby Mexican citizenship. (Dual US/Mexican citizenship) They also had to prove that the child "would not be a charge".....They also needed more documentation from the US. I think they needed parents and grandparents birth certificates or something like. Yes, their baby obtained Mexican citizenship despite the parents not being Mexican citizens, but it wouldn't have happened if they just "went home".
There was also the mandatory trip to the US consulate, but that one went fairly smooth. All they needed at the US consultate were the parents' documentation and passports. Baby obtained a US passport.
They wanted their child to have dual citizenship, but it wasn't all quite that easy.
This is different than the US, where the citizenship process is immediate. In the US, everyone gets a birth certificate, no questions asked.
Congress could write to laws to preserve it, but make the process a bit more tedious if they wanted to discourage it a little bit. For instance, if both parents are not citizens, they could require a follow up appointment like what happened with the person that I knew in Mexico.
If you look at any Mexican birth certificate, it will list the grandparents. It's amazing that my uncle was able to obtain one since he did not have documentation. (1925) However, I don't know if he was considered a Mexican citizen.
However, Trump trying to change the birth certificate process via EO is not the way to do this.
Ilikepurple
(677 posts)If birthright citizenship is a constitutional right, I believe Congress neither needs to affirm it nor can abridge it in the manner you’d like to see. If we are going down this road, a Constitutional Amendment is required. The amendment process, from proposal to ratification, requires a degree of debate and agreement that helps ensure the President or Congress can’t change its contents without going to the people of the states. How far the Supreme Court can stretch its interpretive duties and powers where its political goals align with the other branches is a different question I hope is answered in part by a 9-0 decision here. I’m not saying you shouldn’t advocate for the end or modification of birthright citizenship, but like other Constitutional rights, I’m not in favor of attempts to limit them through a bureaucratic process that is most likely unconstitutional. Depending on the Court’s decision and Trump’s response, this may become a hot button issue, so I welcome debate about this, especially from those on the left that support a change as I feel it counterproductive to both party unity and individual understanding to require we all agree on every issue.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)
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C Moon
(13,643 posts)It’s going to be about SCOTUS and also the ballroom.
Jvp
(67 posts)
littlemissmartypants
(33,588 posts)Wow, President 50-Shades-of-Cray is the mayor of Tantrum Town today.
A couple of notes:
1. Over 30 countries have unconditional birthright citizenship. And...
2. It's been the law of our land since 1868 and all of Trump's racist whining and crying won't change that.
Wow, President 50-Shades-of-Cray is the mayor of Tantrum Town today.
— Bob Geiger (@bobgeiger.bsky.social) 2026-04-01T19:24:18.778Z
A couple of notes:
1. Over 30 countries have unconditional birthright citizenship. And...
2. It's been the law of our land since 1868 and all of Trump's racist whining and crying won't change that.
Auggie
(33,150 posts)in preparation for the mid-terms.
littlemissmartypants
(33,588 posts)Add them with the rest of the USA and its citizens.
FDT
He's a psychopath.
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
Martin68
(27,749 posts)consider you a citizen.
Baitball Blogger
(52,345 posts)Even though I never got my cedula for that country, whenever I go through that airport they treat me like a citizen, which allows me to use the citizen line, while everybody else has to go through the longer line.
Trump just seems to have far too many opportunities to show-off his lack of education.
dickthegrouch
(4,528 posts)The last time I re-entered through there.
The actual CBP encounter took 45 seconds, the line to get there: a full 68 minutes from the time I joined it.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,037 posts)Except maybe, Russia!
City Lights
(25,830 posts)Russians Flock to Trump Properties to Give Birth to U.S. Citizens
OH BABY
While the president rails against children of undocumented immigrants, wealthy Russians rent his condos—at huge costs—so they can have American kids.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russians-flock-to-trump-properties-to-give-birth-to-us-citizens/
Wiz Imp
(9,996 posts)For 35 of those countries, birthright citizenship is unconditional. List:
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Barbados
Belize
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Chad
Chile
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominica
Ecuador
El Salvador
Fiji
Grenada
Guatemala
Guyana
Honduras
Jamaica
Lesotho
Mexico
Nicaragua
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
St. Kitts and Nevis
St. Lucia
St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Tanzania
Trinidad and Tobago
Tuvalu
United States
Uruguay
Venezuela
40 countries have birthright citizenship with some conditions.
Australia
Bahrain
Belgium
Cambodia
Colombia
Cyprus
Dominican Republic
Egypt
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hong Kong
India
Iran
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Japan
Luxembourg
Macau
Malaysia
Malta
Mongolia
Morocco
Namibia
Netherlands
New Zealand
Pakistan
Portugal
Sao Tome and Principe
South Africa
Spain
Sudan
Sweden
Taiwan
Thailand
Tunisia
Ukraine
United Kingdom
https://citizensinternational.com/75-countries-with-birthright-citizenship/
wnylib
(26,014 posts)One was born in Japan. The other was born in Tripoli, but his parents were living in Greece at the time. My SIL went from Greece to Tripoli because the hospital there was better.
But, they were on American soil, I guess, since they were at military bases. Both parents were American citizens. My brother was in the Navy then.
Wonder if the one born in Japan could get dual citizenship if he wanted it.
NickB79
(20,356 posts)If we're gonna start basing our Constitution on what other nations do.