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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEric Cantor is your new House Speaker.
You can see the writing on the wall.
85 Repukes voted for the bill, 151 voted against.
Boehner voted for the bill, Eric Cantor voted against the bill.
Boehner doesn't have the support of his own caucus anymore. Expect him to be pushed out of his role over the next few days.
Give credit to John Boehner for putting America first, not his party. I think this shows he has a heart. Unfortunately, I don't think we can say the same about Eric Cantor. He is a slimey weasel.
rustysgurl
(1,097 posts)You're probably right. And if Eric Cantor is voted House Speaker then I fear for this country. How his constituents can re-elect him is beyond me. Calling him a slimy weasel is an insult to slimy weasels everywhere.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Blasphemer
(3,617 posts)And if he loses the Speakership then it was lost as soon as the election ended. He was never going to get majority support for any compromise bill. Impossible.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)We will see 2 full years of absolutely NOTHING getting done.
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)....would mean Nancy Pelosi as Speaker in 2015.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(134,258 posts)QED
(3,327 posts)he won't be able to hide behind Boehner anymore. His exposure will doom him. While Boehner is/was a cartoon, Cantor will reveal the true face of the tea party and demonstrate what they really have in store for the nation. It will be their last stand.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)livetohike
(24,148 posts)cal04
(41,505 posts)Thus ends the Paul Ryan 2016 Presidential Exploratory Committee.
Erick Erickson @EWErickson
glowing
(12,233 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Which seems like a good idea at this time. Who are those 17 possibles?
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results/house
Always seriously target twice what you need to pick up, then a handful more for good measure.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)it's a done deal.
Just like stealing votes in Ohio, for every Kerry vote switched to Bush, the margin changed by two votes!
But you won't pick up every one you make a concerted effort to take...and taking more gives you a margin for defections. Hence, target 40, not 17.
Target 17 and you'll be ruing the fact that +1 is not enough to get anything done.
GP6971
(37,810 posts)is way to kind
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)remember there is a new Congress as of this week.
The House will still be dominated by conservative pukes but the composition is different. Gone are West of Florida and Walsh of Illinois.
While there may be a shake-up in House leadership, I'm not about to count Boehner out.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)She delivers the votes he needs to retain the Speaker's gavel if he brings the bill to the floor for an up or down vote.
That is entirely within the realm of possibility. Putting the Blue Dog Caucus out there to vote for Boehner would be a bone to the guy to keep him moving in the direction of getting bills with bipartisan support through the House.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)if we're going to pull those kinds of shenanigans...look to the NY Assembly for the parameters of such a deal. I'd want some rules consideration and fairly-substantial legislation promised an up-or-down on the floor.
pkdu
(3,977 posts)a mass-firing of Teabagger congress-critters in 2014
madamesilverspurs
(16,490 posts)
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Silent3
(15,909 posts)Whoever gets the majority vote of the majority party, without minority party votes mattering at all?
Or could Democrats hold their noses and vote for Boehner as speaker along with a minority of Republicans, and keep Cantor or some other Tea Partier out?
Stinky The Clown
(68,941 posts)Each party puts up a candidate. The entire House votes. Simple majority takes the win.
By the way, an interesting aside: The speaker need not be a Member!
ramblin_dave
(1,562 posts)in case Cantor is nominated by the majority?
Stinky The Clown
(68,941 posts)But I don't think they will.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)...I keep hoping a coalition of the majority of Democrats and a few of the more moderate Republicans could get behind one Speaker (almost certainly a Republican, probably Boehner) and we could have the House run that way on a routine basis, rather than having such a coalition be a rare, temporary thing like we got tonight.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Say what?
Has this ever been done/attempted before?
Stinky The Clown
(68,941 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)This is a great opportunity for the 1%.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Some fascinating Speaker elections but none listed there where a non-member was nominated.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...make a moderate Repub the Speaker and Pelosi the Majority Leader?
Stinky The Clown
(68,941 posts)Really.
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)Stinky The Clown
(68,941 posts)I think Boner will keep it.
He could strengthen his hand by wooing some Democrats, too, with some industrial strength bipartisanship.
An *exceedingly* long long shot is the reverse: Speaker Pelosi.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)SidDithers
(44,333 posts)You think that just because Cantor is Jewish, he's controlled by Likud?
Ugly post.
Sid
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Not all Jews support right-wing politics. If one is criticized
for doing so, all we hear are cries of antisemitism, which is
a false kneejerk emotional and non-rational assumption.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/04/201141611819193138.html
This is one of the benefits of having a Republican House at the same time that a Likud prime minister is in office in Israel: the two right-wing parties can work together to thwart any Democratic president's attempt to advance US national security by brokering Middle East peace.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)"Eric stressed that the new Republican majority will serve as a check on the Administration and what has been, up until this point, one party rule in Washington," read a statement from Cantor's office on the one-on-one meeting. "He made clear that the Republican majority understands the special relationship between Israel and the United States, and that the security of each nation is reliant upon the other."
Cantor also took issue with Obama administration policies in other areas, including Iran, with the statement from his office saying the congressman "believes that it is time for the administration to fully and aggressively implement the Iran Sanctions Act passed by Congress earlier this year."
Ron Kampeas from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency news agency found Cantor's comments extremely surprising, writing, "I can't remember an opposition leader telling a foreign leader, in a personal meeting, that he would side, as a policy, with that leader against the president. Certainly, in statements on one specific issue or another -- building in Jerusalem, or somesuch -- lawmakers have taken the sides of other nations. But to have-a-face to face and say, in general, we will take your side against the White House -- that sounds to me extraordinary."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/eric-cantor-benjamin-netanyahu-israel_n_782738.html
Stinky The Clown
(68,941 posts)Please think about a self delete.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)lol
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Eric Cantor is not a weasel; he is a Koch snorter.
YayArea
(71 posts)And the knife comes out...in poor old Boehner's back.
Medics are currently treating the wound with suntan lotion and Jack Daniels.
More details from hospital to be released soon....
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)
20-25 of those 85 Republicans will see what side their bread is buttered on, and join in a coalition to put a conservative Dem into the speakership in exchange for really sweet committee assignments.
Those 85 are smarter than the 151 that stood with Cantor. The American electorate has had it with gridlock, and there is no way a no-vote on a bill that passed the Senate with 89 votes would be received well by mainstream voters.
If the GOP were smart, they would not elect Cantor or Boehner as speaker. They'd go a whole new direction, and install either Ileana Ros-Lehtinen or Mario Diaz-Balart in the speakership. It'd be a good time to put someone in leadership who's a little more moderate while reaching out to Latinos. It wouldn't hurt their reputation in Florida either.
Mdterp01
(144 posts)The thought of that man being third in line is scary!!!!
Turbineguy
(39,940 posts)will help the Democrats in 2014.
SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)me included
it will get MUCH uglier.
aquart
(69,014 posts)They may well dump Boehner. But Cantor? Secondary post sure. But top dog in the House? The Jewish kid? Not buying it.
blueclown
(1,869 posts)timesamillion
(31 posts)And the Republicans need the paranoid extremists to vote with them or else the party will be too little to function.
JCMach1
(29,155 posts)Would Dems vote Boehner over Cantor just to deep six that douchebag.
My spidersense tells me Cantor is the one who is done.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Real weasels are kind of cute.

Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Can House Democrats form a coalition with Boner republicans and keep the teabaggers from electing Cantor? (Of course, a Cantor Speakership will definitely usher in a Democratic majority in 2014.)
sofa king
(10,857 posts)It is almost as though Cantor is plotting or hatching or just purchasing his coup on layaway.
Cantor is beginning to remind me a lot of Dan Sickles, also a ruthless, plotting, remorseless, boundlessly ambitious and thoroughly corrupted person.
That suggests to me that Cantor will only be permitted to rise as high as his past indiscretions permit. Whatever they are. We have yet to learn the best of them, publicly.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)The homeless are watching.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)MjolnirTime
(1,800 posts)williesgirl
(4,033 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)NYC Liberal
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toddwv
(2,831 posts)This is the same reason I wanted Santorum to win the Republican nomination. If one thing came out of the past election, it's that the more the craziest of their ilk talk, the more that the farthest of the right-wing speak their mind, the less the American People like them.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)He won't get the support of the Boener people or Nancy's people, so I hope he doesn't want to pass a bill or an amendment.
I get chills when I look at him. He's a total creep and I think he's possessed (something I don't believe in except in this case).
libodem
(19,288 posts)That fits. Also Shitweasel.
blueclown
(1,869 posts)Dead wrong...