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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(136,931 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:02 PM Apr 7

Mark Kelly: 'Illegal orders' to make civilians suffer in Iran would be 'black mark' on military, US

Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) hit back at a recent post from President Trump threatening Iranian infrastructure, saying Monday that “threatening to target power plants and other non-military targets is not strength.”

“If those words become orders to destroy civilian infrastructure with no valid military purpose, it’s hard to see how they would not violate the laws of armed conflict. America leads best with strength, discipline, and professionalism. Illegal orders to make civilians suffer would be a black mark on our military and our country,” Kelly, a retired Navy captain, added in his post on the social platform X.

Kelly’s post came in response to a Truth Social post from Trump on Sunday in which he pressed Tehran to “open the F‑‑‑in’ Strait, you crazy bastards.”

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Kelly late last year became entangled in a fight with the Trump administration over a video in which he and five other Democratic lawmakers told military service members not to go along with “illegal orders.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mark-kelly-illegal-orders-civilians-165826954.html

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Mark Kelly: 'Illegal orders' to make civilians suffer in Iran would be 'black mark' on military, US (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 7 OP
Jarheads don't give a shit about anything other than Klarkashton Apr 7 #1
I understand your anger... but they're not robots or stupid Bread and Circuses Apr 7 #2
Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 7 #6
Thanks sergeant ! Me too. Bread and Circuses Apr 8 #7
My son spent 6 years in the Marines Lifeafter70 Apr 8 #9
WTF Skittles Apr 7 #4
Then you don't know jack shit about us Marines, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 7 #5
Thank You! Sergeant! Bread and Circuses Apr 8 #8
You know squat about Marines Lifeafter70 Apr 8 #10
They would kill anybody they are told to kill. Klarkashton Apr 8 #11
Noticed you picked the greiving mom to Lifeafter70 Apr 8 #12
..... MarineCombatEngineer Apr 9 #15
I'll take the hide: MarineCombatEngineer Apr 9 #16
Bashing Marines is OK on D U . Bread and Circuses Apr 8 #13
"Having a warm place to shit" sarisataka Apr 8 #14
TY & Sen Mark Kelly Cha Apr 7 #3

Klarkashton

(5,386 posts)
1. Jarheads don't give a shit about anything other than
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:06 PM
Apr 7

Having a warm place to shit. Might as well be robots.

Bread and Circuses

(2,121 posts)
2. I understand your anger... but they're not robots or stupid
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 10:29 PM
Apr 7

However, I taught GED classes at 29 Palms and Camp Pendleton to enlisted Marines. I also come from a military-serving family and have a close family member who served as a Navy Corpsman with the 1st Marine Division during Vietnam.

Although I don’t know the character of enlisted Marines today, I have known drill instructors to be upright, honest, and deeply dedicated. They do everything they can to train Marines to survive in battle—that is their number one job.

Please remember that they are young and follow their command. They’re not robots.

USMC! Any Marine is welcome at my table.

Bread and Circuses

(2,121 posts)
7. Thanks sergeant ! Me too.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:17 AM
Apr 8

I think it’s fair to criticize Command Officers who put enlisted in danger , but not those who serve.

Many come from difficult backgrounds and want to improve their futures.

Lifeafter70

(1,189 posts)
9. My son spent 6 years in the Marines
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 07:58 PM
Apr 8

He definitely was not a robot.
There is is a reason they are trained to follow orders. In combat situations it could literally mean the difference between life or death.
We should not be disparaging the enlisted nor their immediate commanders.
It's the generals and petey boy that deserve our scorn and ridicule.
Thank you for having their back.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,165 posts)
5. Then you don't know jack shit about us Marines,
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 11:47 PM
Apr 7

we're not fucking robots, each and every Marine I served with and commanded, in war and peace, were intelligent human beings, so take your insulting description of "Jarheads" and place it where the sun don't shine.

Bread and Circuses

(2,121 posts)
8. Thank You! Sergeant!
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:24 AM
Apr 8

You can always depend on a Marine to help out a neighbor and stand up with patriotism and heart!

And humping those hills at Camp Pendleton wearing combat boots and a 40- 60 pound backpack is impressive. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸



Thanks. I’ve reported that poster.

Lifeafter70

(1,189 posts)
10. You know squat about Marines
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 08:05 PM
Apr 8

My son has always cared about his fellow man. He helped many a friend and strangers. Even tho he is fighting terminal cancer he still helps where he can.
Your comment is insulting.

Lifeafter70

(1,189 posts)
12. Noticed you picked the greiving mom to
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 09:31 PM
Apr 8

insult further not the Marine in the thread.
Says a lot about you.

Edited to add: You still know squat.

sarisataka

(22,779 posts)
14. "Having a warm place to shit"
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 10:43 PM
Apr 8

if you believe that is in the top 5 list of things a Marine wants, it is just proof of your foolishness and ignorance.

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