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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSpare a thought for the people of Lebanon
As the criminals continue to kill and destroy.
Sneederbunk
(17,587 posts)OGBuzz
(472 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,587 posts)applegrove
(132,796 posts)of olive groves, skiing (!!!), and the beach before the wars started.
I just heard part of a conversation with a Lebanese poli-sci professor and some hack from bibi's country and it was maddening to say the least. Listening to the attitudes of the people of that country piss me off and makes me hope they learn a valuable lesson that will contain them within their borders. If they can't do that, I hope we stop funding their brutality toward their neighbors. They spent decades fomenting these conflicts, they need to learn that it is a plan that can't continue.
LeftInTX
(34,726 posts)I get alot of regional ME stuff in my FB reels feed (esp Lebanon because there are many Armenians living there). Late last year, the country was finally coming back. Around Christmas, the pope visited there and so I got tons of reels. Everything looked like it was looking up. (Like in, "That would be fun to visit".) Everyone wanted that vibrant Lebanon again. Now....
flashman13
(2,516 posts)Iran will continue bombarding Israel and the Straits will remain closed.
Trump knows he must have this cease fire to get out from under the mess he has created. He won't have much choice. He will have to rein in Bibi. As a side benefit, Congress might be less willing to provide Israel with unlimited military and monetary aid.
flashman13
(2,516 posts)attacks on Lebanon. The next move is up to Trump.
maxsolomon
(39,000 posts)There's no other accurate word for it.
Half a million Shiites forced out of their homes for their religious beliefs. Every bridge over the Litani River destroyed.
America barely noticed because of Trump's circus.
Bettie
(19,803 posts)is part of the "greater Israel" that Netanyahu and his supporters want. (You probably already know this)
So, I expect that there will be "settlers" heading there before long, under guard by the IDF of course.
The hard right in Israel has BIG territorial ambitions and they seem to see Trump as their ticket to get what they want.
maxsolomon
(39,000 posts)That North Israel towns would be safe(r) from Hezbollah attacks with Shiites forced north of the Litani.
One wishes the Lebanese Govt was able to assert itself in any way, but they ceded power to Hezbollah long ago.
Lonestarblue
(13,548 posts)The right wing in Israel is even worse than our own MAGA militias and right wing because they are allowed to murder with impunity. I now hate that even one dollar of my tax money supports Israel.
Bettie
(19,803 posts)suggested they could make the buffer zone be on their land rather than displacing over a million people by destroying their homes and killing an estimated 1,500 people.
maxsolomon
(39,000 posts)No buffer is big enough to be safe from missiles.
twodogsbarking
(19,152 posts)AloeVera
(4,347 posts)Look what happens to a country (or people) allowed to ignore and dismiss laws and norms with impunity. It devolves. Though Israel is further along this trajectory, the U.S. is quickly catching up now.
Kid Berwyn
(24,849 posts)Before the 1975 civil war, Lebanon was a prosperous, cosmopolitan nation. Its government split power with the presidency reserved for a Maronite Christian, the Prime Minister as a Sunni Muslim, and the Parliament Speaker as a Shia Muslim.
Americans in general have little knowledge of history. So, many people I've met are shocked to hear that Arabs can also be of various faiths. Here in Detroit I am good friends with a man who was born in Lebanon, a Roman Catholic, and his wife, a Palestinian who also is RC. FTR, both are outstanding Democrats.
malaise
(297,354 posts)and ignore history - including your own. In lots of places His Story (and thats the one most available) has little to do with reality.
Kid Berwyn
(24,849 posts)"He who reads much and walks much, sees much and knows much."
(In the above transliteration, of course, "much" means various shades of lots, depending on how it's used.)

Here's one from Saint Augustine that is pretty direct:
"The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page."
And to your point, what General George S. Patton, Jr. was wont to tell his staff:
"If everybody is thinking alike, then nobody is doing any thinking."
...which is one big reason why Patton was so feared by the NAZIs.
malaise
(297,354 posts)Some think they travel but never leave the all inclusive 😀
Scalded Nun
(1,721 posts)This Iran war lets Israel continue its genocidal march through the Arab states.
If only the sparing of a thought could help these people.
What we have unleashed on the world must never be forgotten.
malaise
(297,354 posts)End times which they will hasten with their nukes - we share a planet with lots of lunatics
Farmer-Rick
(12,757 posts)It once fought. They are out of control.
Dragging in the stupidest person in the oval office to help murder more people and crush more civilian infrastructure. How far out into Lebanon does Bibi need to create a desert buffer zone? How many more people do they have to murder?
MustLoveBeagles
(17,044 posts)I can't remember where that quote came from, but it's true.
Farmer-Rick
(12,757 posts)I remember this quote from my first year college philosophy class. Friedrich Nietzsches warning, "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster".
So true.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,461 posts)Warplanes levelled several buildings in the centre of Beirut, filling the skies with smoke in what Israels defence minister said was a surprise strike on the pro-Iranian group Hezbollah.
The Lebanese capital was filled with cars crumpled by the blasts and the flaming wreckage of buildings that first responders struggled to extinguish, as Israel bombed more than 100 Hezbollah military sites around the country.
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Until the wave of airstrikes by Israel across Lebanon on Wednesday, Hezbollah had not announced any attacks against Israel since the ceasefire announcement a first since the war between it and Israel began on 2 March.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/08/israel-operations-in-lebanon-to-continue-despite-trump-ceasefire-iran-pakistan-hezbollah
malaise
(297,354 posts)These are murderous monsters
Scott Alan Swaggerty
(353 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(14,739 posts)malaise
(297,354 posts)Look what Israel just did to the people of Lebanon.
This is unforgivable.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,461 posts)Speaking to Sky News, Cooper emphasized that the humanitarian consequences and "huge mass displacement" in Lebanon have reached a tipping point. She signaled a significant shift in British rhetoric by demanding that Lebanon be formally included in the ongoing ceasefire deal currently limited to the US and Iran.
Paris issued an even more scathing assessment, condemning the "massive strikes" on Beirut neighborhoods in the "strongest possible terms." While the French Foreign Ministry acknowledged that Hezbollahs "irresponsible and unacceptable" decision to enter the conflict on March 2 ignited the crisis, it asserted that the scale of the Israeli response is "all the more unacceptable" because it threatens to collapse the temporary truce brokered just days ago.
The European Unions top diplomat, Kaja Kallas, also warned that Israeli actions are placing the US-Iran ceasefire under "severe strain." Kallas joined the chorus of voices insisting the truce must extend to Lebanon, while simultaneously reminding the international community that Hezbollah must fulfill its own obligations to disarm.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/europe/artc-europe-slams-israel-s-unacceptable-hezbollah-strikes-in-lebanon
Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez on Wednesday urged the European Union to suspend its 1995 Association Agreement with Israel, the treaty governing trade and political cooperation, following a new wave of strikes on Lebanon.
In a post on the US social media platform X, Sanchez said, "Today, (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu launched his harshest attack on Lebanon since the offensive began."
He described Tel Aviv's disregard for life and international law as "intolerable."
The prime minister said immediate actions must be taken, including that "the European Union must suspend its Association Agreement with Israel."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/spain-urges-eu-to-suspend-1995-cooperation-treaty-with-israel-after-lebanon-strikes/3898737
malaise
(297,354 posts)Rec