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"Trump has declared a full and complete victory in Iran". Oh, for the love of God, pull this delusional, babbling idiot out of the White House and send him to a hospital for the criminally insane.
This HAS to stop!!!!
Johonny
(26,492 posts)Come November when gas still sits at record highs.
BootinUp
(51,569 posts)Ocelot II
(131,089 posts)gab13by13
(32,630 posts)USA USA
CENTCOM refused Kegsbreath requests to bomb civilian infrastructure in Iran, the only thing left for Krasnov to do was surrender or explain why the military was refusing to obey Kegsbreath's requests, they weren't orders (he was protecting himself) they were requests.
moonscape
(5,794 posts)Responsibility issue?
Attilatheblond
(9,156 posts)If it was a 'request' and they granted it, THEY would be the war criminals.
Even after Hegseth purged most of the really smart ones, there are still brains among the remaining brass; probably smart enough not to let him see how smart and honorable they are lest they be purged earlier too.
moonscape
(5,794 posts)VMA131Marine
(5,330 posts)If you commit war crimes, just following orders doesnt protect you from prosecution and conviction.
Attilatheblond
(9,156 posts)would protect the Trump mob and blame the Brass.
Skittles
(172,539 posts)artemisia1
(1,899 posts)Brother Buzz
(40,294 posts)flvegan
(66,459 posts)GenThePerservering
(3,604 posts)Ray Bruns
(6,631 posts)Attilatheblond
(9,156 posts)'Thanks for all the campaign donations, boys! Here's some big checks written on the backs of US taxpayers and dead Iranian children.'
Vinca
(54,257 posts)It's a cease fire that has already been broken! Not a victory by any stretch of the imagination. If anything, Iran got itself a bonus with their control of the Strait of Hormuz and the ability to charge ships to traverse it.
Grim Chieftain
(1,961 posts)2naSalit
(103,792 posts)I don't think he's ever sober.
usonian
(26,322 posts)
Permanut
(8,527 posts)calimary
(90,577 posts)One of the scariest things I ever saw. I was very young when that episode first ran. But I still remember what a jolt it was. Id never thought about anything like that until I saw that episode. Still troubling. The worst lesson in the world to have to learn: when YOU are the only one left after a global cataclysm.
maxsolomon
(39,043 posts)Iranian State Media is saying the same thing on their end, no doubt.
We live in hell. 33 months to go. Persevere.
Moostache
(11,259 posts)Senate, House, completely toxic lame-duck status, and Impeachment that should draw enough GOP votes to convict and forever make him ineligible for ANY office ever again.
Honestly, that SHOULD have happened in January 2021 already and we would never have had the last 16 months of lunacy and chaos... Thanks Mitch!
maxsolomon
(39,043 posts)Impeachment 3.0 would end the same way as 1.0 & 2.0. You won't get 67 Senators to convict.
MFer is there until Jan 20, 2029. The GOP is accomplishing its goals of destroying the Federal Govt. They won't abandon him now.
RVN VET71
(3,211 posts)Please, Clio, don't let the survivors forget his name and his face.
The Wizard
(13,826 posts)malaise
(297,569 posts)and still had to leave the WH.
1WorldHope
(2,117 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,211 posts)Someone tell him the defintion. Lexicography for Dummies.
Initech
(109,118 posts)Fuck all the way off Trump!
Grim Chieftain
(1,961 posts)LiberalArkie
(19,899 posts)
Grim Chieftain
(1,961 posts)LiberalArkie
(19,899 posts)MLWR
(1,064 posts)1) Make sure the lie is so big that no one would believe it was made up.
2) Repeat it often enough so that it becomes the truth.
"The big lie is the name of a propaganda technique, originally coined by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, who says The great masses of the people
will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one, and denotes where a known falsehood is stated and repeated and treated as if it is self-evidently true," From: https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/big-lie/#:~:text=The%20big%20lie%20is%20the,the%20people%E2%80%A6%20will%20more%20easily
C_U_L8R
(49,495 posts)SergeStorms
(20,761 posts)How many times can "he" win the same illegal "war?" 🤔
Freaking demented nitwit.
modrepub
(4,166 posts)For his bank account. Hes probably come up with a way to split the tolls for travel through the gulf with Iran.
Heard toll will be $1/barrel payable in crypto for easier embezzlement. What a f-king joke.
swong19104
(652 posts)When negotiating with Trump. One stipulation that must be included and cannot be omitted is the requirement that Trump announce that he lost in the deal. Doesnt matter whether he won or not. He has to publicly state thats he lost. Or no deal.
Figarosmom
(12,967 posts)NO ONE BELIEVES IT ANYWAY. But let the deranged creep believe it.
Justice matters.
(9,998 posts)It's called Markets Crash (Depression for short), or Insolvency.
senseandsensibility
(25,415 posts)Good news!
Bengus81
(10,322 posts)Upthevibe
(10,225 posts)ffr
(23,442 posts)Sad, but true. The reality is there will be one-issue voters and the like who will never vote for democrats. The only way for democrats to appeal to this
voting block is for democrats to run as republicans, take that stupid party over, destroy it once and for all, wait until all of the unserious voters die of old age, then for those elected republican democrats can change party affiliation back to democrat once sanity has been restored to how people vote.
Bluetus
(3,030 posts)made it much worse. The first step is to neutralize Trump and the war powers act is probably the best way to do that. But then we have some major work to do, even to begin repairing the damage that Trump caused in the past 30 days. This needs to be at the core of our messaging for the November elections. The overriding message should be:
Hassler
(4,948 posts)The public will know what TACO won.
Renew Deal
(85,309 posts)BarbD
(1,483 posts)then terrorizing all of us over the threat of using nuclear weapons on Iran is totally unbalanced, I beg the Republicans to invoke the 25th amendment.
Grim Chieftain
(1,961 posts)MerryBlooms
(12,373 posts)Someone needs to put a breathalyzer on their president before he speaks.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,094 posts)MerryBlooms
(12,373 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(17,094 posts)They should both be removed.
rampartd
(4,879 posts)no one has said "epstein" for a week.
lastlib
(28,515 posts)...in the movie Midnight Express, and what a WONDERFUL place that would be to send The Felon to! It would be perfect for him!
Deuxcents
(27,528 posts)lastlib
(28,515 posts)God, It was dark! And now I wish The Felon could experience it--first-hand, close-up.
ForeGoneLegsBirne
(52 posts)ybbor
(1,761 posts)Because if it is, hell just bankrupt it!
Joinfortmill
(21,516 posts)JohnnyRingo
(20,971 posts)At least we pried his finger off the trigger.
I'll feel better if the old crank goes golfing for a couple days.
vapor2
(4,807 posts)Blue Owl
(59,502 posts)