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Grim Chieftain

(1,961 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:17 PM Apr 8

Just heard on MS NOW -

"Trump has declared a full and complete victory in Iran". Oh, for the love of God, pull this delusional, babbling idiot out of the White House and send him to a hospital for the criminally insane.

This HAS to stop!!!!

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Just heard on MS NOW - (Original Post) Grim Chieftain Apr 8 OP
This will make great campaign commercials Johonny Apr 8 #1
I'll drop him off. Heading that way. Nt BootinUp Apr 8 #2
Well, of course he did! Who couldn't see that coming? Ocelot II Apr 8 #3
Iran closed Hormuz again. gab13by13 Apr 8 #4
Can you explain implications if an order? moonscape Apr 8 #33
If it was an order & they followed it, Hegseth/Trump take the rap Attilatheblond Apr 8 #45
So a request isn't also a war crime? moonscape Apr 8 #47
Nuremberg dispelled the idea of a "just following orders" defense VMA131Marine Apr 9 #62
Thus the reasoning that making it a choice for the military brass rather than an order from Trump Mob Attilatheblond Apr 9 #65
I figured they would just try to dismantle CENTCOM Skittles Apr 8 #51
Grfaz! artemisia1 Apr 8 #5
Gröfaz! Brother Buzz Apr 8 #42
Waiting for him to scroll Bush's MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner across the WH. n/t flvegan Apr 8 #6
'Quagmire Accomplished' nt GenThePerservering Apr 8 #7
"Gigitty'" Ray Bruns Apr 8 #14
Payoff to Military Contractors Accomplished Attilatheblond Apr 8 #32
Hegseth made it sound like a victory bigger than the end of WWII in his press conference. Vinca Apr 8 #8
Wonder if Hegseth was drunk again, or still. Grim Chieftain Apr 8 #9
Still... 2naSalit Apr 8 #17
Excellent. Finally, there is time enough at last to address domestic needs. usonian Apr 8 #10
Burgess Meredith in one of the all time classic Twilight Zone episodes. Permanut Apr 8 #19
"...all the time I wanted..." calimary Apr 8 #31
What else do you expect him to say? maxsolomon Apr 8 #11
The mid-term elections have to end him. Moostache Apr 8 #21
LOL, right. maxsolomon Apr 8 #25
McConnell is the godfather of the destruction of America RVN VET71 Apr 9 #63
Butner, North Carolina has a room for him. The Wizard Apr 8 #12
So what- he claimed complete victory in November 2020 malaise Apr 8 #13
Just let him believe it! Start working on fossil fuel liberation immediately! 1WorldHope Apr 8 #15
win·ning /ˈwiniNG/ adjective 1. gaining, resulting in, or relating to victory in a contest or competition. twodogsbarking Apr 8 #16
Oh good fucking god. This was not a victory and he is completely out of his fucking mind. Initech Apr 8 #18
Agree to the max Grim Chieftain Apr 8 #24
Already a picture is out LiberalArkie Apr 8 #20
Seems to be a pattern Grim Chieftain Apr 8 #22
It is a pattern that all the wars started by the U.S. were started by Republican Presidents LiberalArkie Apr 8 #34
The Big Lie MLWR Apr 8 #23
Trump: "I can finally rest and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe" C_U_L8R Apr 8 #26
Again? SergeStorms Apr 8 #27
A Win modrepub Apr 8 #28
All other nations, hear this: swong19104 Apr 8 #29
Let him think that if it's the only way we get out of this mess Figarosmom Apr 8 #30
Leave him there until the next crisis he fabricated. Justice matters. Apr 8 #36
So no need for the 200 billion extra war funding? senseandsensibility Apr 8 #35
The Iranians OWNED your azzz Trump. Plain and simple......... Bengus81 Apr 8 #37
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Apr 8 #38
But his kind being elected to office will never stop, so long as there are uninfomred unserious uneducated voters ffr Apr 8 #39
America is better off if Trump believes this and gets the hell out of IRan. But he took a bad situation, and Bluetus Apr 8 #40
When gas prices and everything else remain high Hassler Apr 8 #41
Great. Now send everyone home Renew Deal Apr 8 #43
This demented idiot...after tweeting repulsive crap over the weekend.. BarbD Apr 8 #44
If Trump doesn't qualify for the 25th, no one ever will. Grim Chieftain Apr 8 #46
Until pictures come out of Iran destroying US and US alliance assets? MerryBlooms Apr 8 #48
And testing for other drugs MustLoveBeagles Apr 8 #53
For sure. Let's throw Hegseth into that same ring! They're both two poisoned peas in a pod. MerryBlooms Apr 8 #57
Yes MustLoveBeagles Apr 8 #58
it is a full and complete victory for trump rampartd Apr 8 #49
I've been thinking lately about that Turkish prison.... lastlib Apr 8 #50
That was the scariest movie I've ever seen..saw it when I was young and never forgot it. Deuxcents Apr 8 #54
Yeah, I had a couple nightmares about it. lastlib Apr 8 #56
Oh It CAN'T Stop..NEXT Year's Nobel Peace Prize Campaign Begins Now! n/t ForeGoneLegsBirne Apr 8 #52
Is it the William J. Le Petomane memorial casino for the insane? ybbor Apr 8 #55
I Second that. Joinfortmill Apr 8 #59
Let him take his participation trophy and go home. JohnnyRingo Apr 8 #60
Family intervention vapor2 Apr 8 #61
The windmills have been contained Blue Owl Apr 9 #64

gab13by13

(32,630 posts)
4. Iran closed Hormuz again.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:23 PM
Apr 8

USA USA

CENTCOM refused Kegsbreath requests to bomb civilian infrastructure in Iran, the only thing left for Krasnov to do was surrender or explain why the military was refusing to obey Kegsbreath's requests, they weren't orders (he was protecting himself) they were requests.

Attilatheblond

(9,156 posts)
45. If it was an order & they followed it, Hegseth/Trump take the rap
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 03:22 PM
Apr 8

If it was a 'request' and they granted it, THEY would be the war criminals.

Even after Hegseth purged most of the really smart ones, there are still brains among the remaining brass; probably smart enough not to let him see how smart and honorable they are lest they be purged earlier too.

VMA131Marine

(5,330 posts)
62. Nuremberg dispelled the idea of a "just following orders" defense
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 07:29 AM
Apr 9

If you commit war crimes, “just following orders” doesn’t protect you from prosecution and conviction.

Attilatheblond

(9,156 posts)
65. Thus the reasoning that making it a choice for the military brass rather than an order from Trump Mob
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 10:44 AM
Apr 9

would protect the Trump mob and blame the Brass.

artemisia1

(1,899 posts)
5. Grfaz!
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:23 PM
Apr 8
Gröfaz is a derogatory German acronym for Größter Feldherr aller Zeiten ("Greatest Field Commander of All Time&quot , used during World War II to mock Adolf Hitler and his megalomania. Coined around 1943, it satirized Nazi propaganda and the party's love for abbreviations.

Attilatheblond

(9,156 posts)
32. Payoff to Military Contractors Accomplished
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:40 PM
Apr 8

'Thanks for all the campaign donations, boys! Here's some big checks written on the backs of US taxpayers and dead Iranian children.'

Vinca

(54,257 posts)
8. Hegseth made it sound like a victory bigger than the end of WWII in his press conference.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:27 PM
Apr 8

It's a cease fire that has already been broken! Not a victory by any stretch of the imagination. If anything, Iran got itself a bonus with their control of the Strait of Hormuz and the ability to charge ships to traverse it.

calimary

(90,577 posts)
31. "...all the time I wanted..."
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:35 PM
Apr 8

One of the scariest things I ever saw. I was very young when that episode first ran. But I still remember what a jolt it was. I’d never thought about anything like that until I saw that episode. Still troubling. The worst lesson in the world to have to learn: when YOU are the only one left after a global cataclysm.

maxsolomon

(39,043 posts)
11. What else do you expect him to say?
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 12:31 PM
Apr 8

Iranian State Media is saying the same thing on their end, no doubt.

We live in hell. 33 months to go. Persevere.

Moostache

(11,259 posts)
21. The mid-term elections have to end him.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:19 PM
Apr 8

Senate, House, completely toxic lame-duck status, and Impeachment that should draw enough GOP votes to convict and forever make him ineligible for ANY office ever again.

Honestly, that SHOULD have happened in January 2021 already and we would never have had the last 16 months of lunacy and chaos... Thanks Mitch!

maxsolomon

(39,043 posts)
25. LOL, right.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:25 PM
Apr 8

Impeachment 3.0 would end the same way as 1.0 & 2.0. You won't get 67 Senators to convict.

MFer is there until Jan 20, 2029. The GOP is accomplishing its goals of destroying the Federal Govt. They won't abandon him now.

RVN VET71

(3,211 posts)
63. McConnell is the godfather of the destruction of America
Thu Apr 9, 2026, 07:50 AM
Apr 9

Please, Clio, don't let the survivors forget his name and his face.

twodogsbarking

(19,211 posts)
16. win·ning /ˈwiniNG/ adjective 1. gaining, resulting in, or relating to victory in a contest or competition.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:06 PM
Apr 8

Someone tell him the defintion. Lexicography for Dummies.

Initech

(109,118 posts)
18. Oh good fucking god. This was not a victory and he is completely out of his fucking mind.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:11 PM
Apr 8

Fuck all the way off Trump!

MLWR

(1,064 posts)
23. The Big Lie
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:22 PM
Apr 8

1) Make sure the lie is so big that no one would believe it was made up.
2) Repeat it often enough so that it becomes the truth.
"The big lie is the name of a propaganda technique, originally coined by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, who says “The great masses of the people… will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one,” and denotes where a known falsehood is stated and repeated and treated as if it is self-evidently true," From: https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/big-lie/#:~:text=The%20big%20lie%20is%20the,the%20people%E2%80%A6%20will%20more%20easily

modrepub

(4,166 posts)
28. A Win
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:30 PM
Apr 8

For his bank account. He’s probably come up with a way to split the tolls for travel through the gulf with Iran.

Heard toll will be $1/barrel payable in crypto for easier embezzlement. What a f—-king joke.

swong19104

(652 posts)
29. All other nations, hear this:
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:30 PM
Apr 8

When negotiating with Trump. One stipulation that must be included and cannot be omitted is the requirement that Trump announce that he lost in the deal. Doesn’t matter whether he won or not. He has to publicly state that’s he lost. Or no deal.

Figarosmom

(12,967 posts)
30. Let him think that if it's the only way we get out of this mess
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 01:33 PM
Apr 8

NO ONE BELIEVES IT ANYWAY. But let the deranged creep believe it.

Justice matters.

(9,998 posts)
36. Leave him there until the next crisis he fabricated.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:04 PM
Apr 8

It's called Markets Crash (Depression for short), or Insolvency.

ffr

(23,442 posts)
39. But his kind being elected to office will never stop, so long as there are uninfomred unserious uneducated voters
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:41 PM
Apr 8

Sad, but true. The reality is there will be one-issue voters and the like who will never vote for democrats. The only way for democrats to appeal to this voting block is for democrats to run as republicans, take that stupid party over, destroy it once and for all, wait until all of the unserious voters die of old age, then for those elected republican democrats can change party affiliation back to democrat once sanity has been restored to how people vote.

Bluetus

(3,030 posts)
40. America is better off if Trump believes this and gets the hell out of IRan. But he took a bad situation, and
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:44 PM
Apr 8

made it much worse. The first step is to neutralize Trump and the war powers act is probably the best way to do that. But then we have some major work to do, even to begin repairing the damage that Trump caused in the past 30 days. This needs to be at the core of our messaging for the November elections. The overriding message should be:

"The Republicans cannot govern. They cannot control their guy, and they are making matters exponentially worse every day. You need to elect a Democratic Senate and House now. We cannot wait until 2029 to start repairing all the Trump damage."

BarbD

(1,483 posts)
44. This demented idiot...after tweeting repulsive crap over the weekend..
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 03:19 PM
Apr 8

then terrorizing all of us over the threat of using nuclear weapons on Iran is totally unbalanced, I beg the Republicans to invoke the 25th amendment.

MerryBlooms

(12,373 posts)
48. Until pictures come out of Iran destroying US and US alliance assets?
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 03:55 PM
Apr 8

Someone needs to put a breathalyzer on their president before he speaks.

lastlib

(28,515 posts)
50. I've been thinking lately about that Turkish prison....
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 06:03 PM
Apr 8

...in the movie Midnight Express, and what a WONDERFUL place that would be to send The Felon to! It would be perfect for him!

lastlib

(28,515 posts)
56. Yeah, I had a couple nightmares about it.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 06:32 PM
Apr 8

God, It was dark! And now I wish The Felon could experience it--first-hand, close-up.

ybbor

(1,761 posts)
55. Is it the William J. Le Petomane memorial casino for the insane?
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 06:23 PM
Apr 8

Because if it is, he’ll just bankrupt it!

JohnnyRingo

(20,971 posts)
60. Let him take his participation trophy and go home.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 08:32 PM
Apr 8

At least we pried his finger off the trigger.
I'll feel better if the old crank goes golfing for a couple days.

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