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Swede

(40,540 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 10:17 PM Apr 10

"The Pope should stay out of US Politics"

The Pope has not involved himself in U.S. politics. He has merely preached the Gospel, which is literally his job. If your ears sting when you hear it that's on you. You might ask yourself why. "Why does it feel like he's talking to me?"
As BuzzFeed would say, the answer might surprise you.



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"The Pope should stay out of US Politics" (Original Post) Swede Apr 10 OP
MAGA Xtians? yankee87 Apr 10 #1
Actually trump, hegseth, leaving and vance should stay out of religion vapor2 Apr 10 #2
Saying that genocide is bad isn't political Renew Deal Apr 10 #3
Meh! Any criticism of US imperialism, warmongering, malaise Apr 11 #18
I'm loving that they're alienating so many Catholic voters.... Sogo Apr 10 #4
With a book out (campaign fodder) about converting to Catholicism underpants Apr 10 #5
It's all theatrics. spanone Apr 11 #17
That's not what rightwingers said about Ratzinger FoxNewsSucks Apr 10 #6
the GOP should be excommunicated RainCaster Apr 10 #7
Considering religion is not stable gulliver Apr 10 #8
Why does what he said bother you JV? nt BootinUp Apr 10 #9
And Hungarian politics? moondust Apr 10 #10
Trump, Vance, and entire GOP should stay out of healthcare bmichaelh Apr 10 #11
And all pastors and evangelical preachers swong19104 Apr 10 #12
The Pope should stay out of politics Seinan Sensei Apr 11 #13
Since US politics, especially these days, affects EVERYYONE IN THE WORLD, niyad Apr 11 #14
Kind of a variation on the theme, "Just shut up and dribble." Wednesdays Apr 11 #15
He was born in Chicago. BannonsLiver Apr 11 #16
jd prefers couches. niyad Apr 11 #20
Hey, don't mess with The Pope. He gets a mail-in ballot like the rest of us. no_hypocrisy Apr 11 #19
Well, whose bright idea was it to start talking about an "Avignon papacy" ? eppur_se_muova Apr 11 #21
MaddowBlog-Vance escalates White House offensive against Pope Leo LetMyPeopleVote Apr 15 #22

vapor2

(5,142 posts)
2. Actually trump, hegseth, leaving and vance should stay out of religion
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 10:23 PM
Apr 10

Freakin hypocrites hiding behind religion

malaise

(299,649 posts)
18. Meh! Any criticism of US imperialism, warmongering,
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:17 AM
Apr 11

racism, ICE, etc is terrorism. Tut tut.

spanone

(142,256 posts)
17. It's all theatrics.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 07:05 AM
Apr 11

Bullshit.

What qualifies this asshole to be in talks with Iran? NOTHING.

 

gulliver

(14,160 posts)
8. Considering religion is not stable
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 11:28 PM
Apr 10

The latest is this Pope positioning on the war with Iran. It's not good for the Catholic religion, and it's not helpful in the real situation with which we're faced. The religion, in this case, just clouds the issue.

Some of us use the Constitution to back our opinions. Some of us use the Bible and other holy books. But, all the more superficial among us are doing is wielding these as weapons. We hit each other with the Constitution and the Bible, and all we do is damage them. We're using them wrong.

bmichaelh

(1,324 posts)
11. Trump, Vance, and entire GOP should stay out of healthcare
Fri Apr 10, 2026, 11:46 PM
Apr 10

Trump, Vance, and entire GOP should stay out of healthcare unless they are willing to adopt a universal healthcare system.

Pope recently said universal healthcare is a right.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pope-leo-calls-universal-healthcare-moral-imperative-2026-03-18/

Every time, Trump touches healthcare someone will die.


Seinan Sensei

(1,730 posts)
13. The Pope should stay out of politics
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 12:43 AM
Apr 11

It's not like the US would appoint a Southern Baptist Pastor as Ambassador to Israel or anything.

No wait.

According to the Guardian (2/20/26), Ambassador Mike Huckabee indicated that Israel has a biblical right to take over the entire Middle East – or at least the lion’s share of it.

Israel is a land that God gave, through Abraham, to a people that he chose” - M. Huckabee

niyad

(135,366 posts)
14. Since US politics, especially these days, affects EVERYYONE IN THE WORLD,
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 01:03 AM
Apr 11

EVERYONE IN THE WORLD has a RIGHT to comment on US politics. By the same mindset expressed in that fb post, the orange creature soiling The People's House should stay out of everyone else's politics.

Wednesdays

(23,470 posts)
15. Kind of a variation on the theme, "Just shut up and dribble."
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 02:23 AM
Apr 11

In other words, "If you don't agree with me, then you have no right to an opinion."

BannonsLiver

(21,029 posts)
16. He was born in Chicago.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 03:47 AM
Apr 11

And has US, Peruvian and Vatican City citizenship. He has as much of a right as he wants. JD is NOT from Hungary and can go fuck himself.

LetMyPeopleVote

(184,013 posts)
22. MaddowBlog-Vance escalates White House offensive against Pope Leo
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:47 PM
Apr 15

If the White House sees a political upside to its increasingly outlandish papal rebukes, it’s mistaken.

As JD Vance presses the pope to be “careful when he talks about matters of theology” — no, seriously, that’s what he said — a simple question hands overhead:

What exactly is the White House’s strategy here? Do Trump and Vance think the pope will be bullied into silence?
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-15T12:59:00.596Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/vance-trump-pope-catholic-church

Not to be outdone, his vice president — the first Catholic Republican to ever hold the office — has joined the rhetorical offensive.

On Monday night, JD Vance appeared on Fox News and insisted that “it would be best for the Vatican to stick to matters of morality … and let the president of the United States stick to dictating American public policy.” Putting aside the fact that the president isn’t supposed to be “dictating” anything, the Ohio Republican’s advice didn’t make a lot of sense: The pope drew Trump’s ire by speaking out on matters such as a deadly and destabilizing war in the Middle East and the plight of immigrants seeking a better life, both of which are, by any reasonable measure, “matters of morality.”

A day later, he upped the ante in an unexpected way. NBC News reported:

Vice President JD Vance said Tuesday that Pope Leo XIV should ‘be careful’ when he talks about theology, rebuking the pontiff over his criticisms of U.S. foreign policy.

Vance argued that the pope, who has said Jesus ‘is never on the side of those who once wielded the sword and today drop bombs,’ was failing to take into account conflicts such as World War II
.


....Do Trump and Vance believe Leo will be intimidated into silence? Are they trying to send a signal to other religious leaders opposed to the war? Do they believe they can discredit the pontiff, who enjoys stronger public support than they do? Do the Republicans think they’ll appear “tough” by picking a fight with the Vatican? Is this all some sort of elaborate distraction campaign?

I won’t pretend to know their motivation, but if Trump and Vance see a political upside to their increasingly outlandish papal scoldings, they’re mistaken.
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