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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVance: Vatican "should stick to the church and let the president stick to DICTATING AMERICAN PUBLIC POLICY."
Aaron Rupar
@atrupar.com
JD Vance advises the Vatican to stay out of US politics
JD Vance advises the Vatican to stay out of US politics
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-04-13T22:30:15.397Z
moonscape
(5,784 posts)Follow your own advice!
Irish_Dem
(81,859 posts)no_hypocrisy
(55,079 posts)Thanks JD! Your hypocrisy is priceless!
Lifeafter70
(1,125 posts)I know I know I took it out of context.
But it works for me.
tanyev
(49,416 posts)🤨
Iggo
(49,974 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,550 posts)Policy, ignorant douche.
Chasstev365
(7,939 posts)3catwoman3
(29,580 posts)ColoringFool
(815 posts)Prairie Gates
(8,304 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,550 posts)He will do anything to become the nominee, and I cant see how remaining a Catholic is going to be feasible for him.
Deuxcents
(27,279 posts)Ocelot II
(130,842 posts)The president's job is not to dictate policy. The president's job, per the Constitution, is to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed" (Article II, Section 3). Those laws arise from the people via their Article I representatives. And if the president has started a war because he felt like it and innocent people are getting killed, the Pope certainly can, and should, use his voice as (supposedly) God's messenger to speak out against the violence and the killing. God isn't cool with war in general, never mind what Pete Kegbreath says.
DFW
(60,313 posts)The clergy in general, and Catholics in particular, should keep their mouths shut, right?
Except when
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regnaD kciN
(27,672 posts)BlueNProud
(1,110 posts)Johonny
(26,352 posts)Happy about it, so Vance is going to have to eat the shit he crapped.
ananda
(35,291 posts)Cathoic in name only.
efhmc
(16,817 posts)But Vance really is a so-called Catholic.
Lifeafter70
(1,125 posts)Don't remember seeing him at Mass on Easter Sunday.
efhmc
(16,817 posts)waterwatcher123
(518 posts)Blue Owl
(59,318 posts)Kingofalldems
(40,329 posts)Raven123
(7,858 posts)Funny, JD thought it was ok for him (JD) to explain St Augustine
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2025/02/05/jd-vance-ordo-amoris-augustine-249848/
Cha
(319,584 posts)the little mouthpiece Cockroach telling Pope Leo the XIV what to do.
spanone
(141,836 posts)Skittles
(172,170 posts)when the Pope comments on WAR I think he IS commenting on MORALITY
Vance knew he screwed that one up. Also, threatening to destroy a civilization is well within the Popes scope.
3catwoman3
(29,580 posts)Renew Deal
(85,265 posts)With all of the religious justifications for the war and Old Testament quotes to support lethality.
Keep religion out of foreign policy and maybe religion will have a smaller role.
That said, the ending civilization comments are a war crime and my understanding is that they may also be a sin.
MW67
(196 posts)Trying to tell the Pope to stay in his lane, how very rich, the laughing stock of the world leadership
purr-rat beauty
(1,296 posts)...a scion of the Anti-Christ than he is a son of God.
sop
(18,886 posts)
The Pope should excommunicate him for heresy.
Sequoia
(12,763 posts)And remember what happened after he forced a visit with the last Pope. Despicable phony.
malaise
(296,886 posts)Hmmmmmmmmm!
Eugene
(67,170 posts)An unlawful war that is disrupting the entire world is everybody's business.
And Shady, crimes done in Christ's name are morality issues.
LetMyPeopleVote
(180,658 posts)If the White House sees a political upside to its increasingly outlandish papal rebukes, its mistaken.
As JD Vance presses the pope to be âcareful when he talks about matters of theologyâ â no, seriously, thatâs what he said â a simple question hands overhead:
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-15T12:59:00.596Z
What exactly is the White Houseâs strategy here? Do Trump and Vance think the pope will be bullied into silence?
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/vance-trump-pope-catholic-church
On Monday night, JD Vance appeared on Fox News and insisted that it would be best for the Vatican to stick to matters of morality and let the president of the United States stick to dictating American public policy. Putting aside the fact that the president isnt supposed to be dictating anything, the Ohio Republicans advice didnt make a lot of sense: The pope drew Trumps ire by speaking out on matters such as a deadly and destabilizing war in the Middle East and the plight of immigrants seeking a better life, both of which are, by any reasonable measure, matters of morality.
A day later, he upped the ante in an unexpected way. NBC News reported:
Vice President JD Vance said Tuesday that Pope Leo XIV should be careful when he talks about theology, rebuking the pontiff over his criticisms of U.S. foreign policy.
Vance argued that the pope, who has said Jesus is never on the side of those who once wielded the sword and today drop bombs, was failing to take into account conflicts such as World War II.
....Do Trump and Vance believe Leo will be intimidated into silence? Are they trying to send a signal to other religious leaders opposed to the war? Do they believe they can discredit the pontiff, who enjoys stronger public support than they do? Do the Republicans think theyll appear tough by picking a fight with the Vatican? Is this all some sort of elaborate distraction campaign?
I wont pretend to know their motivation, but if Trump and Vance see a political upside to their increasingly outlandish papal scoldings, theyre mistaken.