Ukraine is killing Russians with no shred of humanity. Why should they?

[OAITW r.2.0]

Drones are killing Russian occupiers at a 95% rate, 30K+/Russian casualties a month. And increasing. How many more Russian lives will Putin kill before he admits defeat?

[magicarpet]

1. Be nice if Putin suffered the same fate as Orban and got kicked in the teeth at the ballot box.

Then maybe this war of aggression, waste of treasure and lives of young men at the prime of their lives will finally come to an end.

Hope & pray for that result.

[BannonsLiver]

2. The only way Putin gets out of Ukraine is he if he decides staying in might get him killed.

That’s a calculation only he can make. We don’t know a lot about the Kremlin palace intrigue right now but it sure seems like self preservation has been a little more at the forefront lately for him.

Ukraine has also proven to be far more resilient and resourceful than even the most optimistic takes at the start of the war.

[OAITW r.2.0]

3. We do know this. Putin has fucked Russia for a decade.

The Russia/Soviet Army is destroyed. The only card Putin has left are nukes. Betting wargamer's in the EU/NATO are focused on this gambit.

[BannonsLiver]

6. I would think so too.

Putin is getting backed into a corner on manpower. They’ve taken a lot of people from rural areas but those wells are running dry. Any kind of future mass mobilization would require taking men from urban areas which seems more likely to be met with resistance 4 years in. authoritarians have been toppled by less. That’s taking the long way to say to your point I don’t think Putin can defeat Ukraine without using nuclear weapons. We’re to that stage now.

[OAITW r.2.0]

44. Orban just got booted and Trump can't help him ay substantive way.

Iran is temporarily closed for repairs, NK supplies defective ammo and China is doing nothing of real import to help Putin. Meanwhile, Ukraine is methodically taking down Russian missile offense/radar/EW/logistics capabilities. Remaining defense assets....in Ukraine or around Russian manufacturing assets to support their losing war effort?

He is fucked. So many options for an assassination. Who will deliver it?

[Emrys]

4. Sensible Russian troops surrender in response to the Ukrainians' "I Want to Live" programme

Once in captivity, they're treated pretty well. You just have to contrast the well-fed, rested state of Russian POWs with emaciated and damaged Ukrainian POWs during prisoner exchanges to see evidence of the two cultures. Unfortunately, many of the returned Russian POWs end up back on the front as cannonfodder soon after release. Some have defected rather than return to Russia and are fighting alongside the Ukrainians.

For Ukraine, the gloves came off after the massacres in Bucha and later those that are ongoing in the border oblasts and Russian-occupied areas and the wantonly cruel bomb attacks on civilians in Ukraine's major conurbations. All that doesn't exactly foster a sense of charity toward the enemy.

[fujiyamasan]

5. This either goes on until Putin dies or until Ukraine gives up territory

And it depends on who comes to power after Putin. It’s not clear if any so called moderates or doves exist, or if they’ve all been purged. It appears to be the latter.

Of course even if Ukraine gives up territory, there’s no reason to trust Putin in honoring any agreement, or to believe this wouldn’t restart a few years down the line (Putin rearms further and relaunches).

It goes to show how delusional he was in launching this war in the first place.

There’s really no choice but for Europe to further assist Ukraine in arming itself. It may actually be in their interests for the US to leave NATO, since Trump’s actions primarily benefit Russia anyways.

[OAITW r.2.0]

8. Ukraine ain't giving up a square foot of their territory.

Putin, if he were smart, would sue for peace now. Ukraine will be expecting reparations that Putin can't deliver,,,,,because he's bankrupted Russia.

[ColoringFool]

17. 100%. Not. One. Square. Inch.

[OAITW r.2.0]

23. And, oddly enough, the Donbas has billions of valuable mineral deposits.

Putin's grab? How many more Euro's can he extract for his benefit?

[The Bopper]

21. All he has to do

Is pull a Trumpie, declare victory, no explanations necessary...

[Deuxcents]

31. Not one square inch! Ukraine has been fighting for their freedom and after all this sacrifice, they won't give up

Nor should they. Putin greatly miscalculated Ukraine’s character and they’ve fought Russians and every mercenary Putin could get. I don’t see Ukraine giving up

[Trueblue Texan]

25. I don't know why he was delusional...

...he had all the right Yes men in place, just like TSF does!

[hatrack]

9. If the Ukrainian estimates are accurate, Russia is losing somewhere between 1 and 2 battalions/day

And if something can't go on forever, it won't. They're using convicted criminals, men in their 50s and 60s, press-ganged immigrants and blackmailed rural minorities from the Central Asian former SSRs.

And the one thing that Putin can't do is the one thing that Russians Who Matter (that is, white Great Russians) will NOT stand for - ordering full mobilization.

[OAITW r.2.0]

10. Russian losses are mind-boggling. They haven't had this type of loss since WWII.

They were fighting for their lives, back then.

Now, a war against another adjacent country, for no reason?....not so much.

[blue-wave]

11. If I might retort from the headline

Ukrainians are saving Ukrainian lives. Through the centuries, Russia has mass murdered Ukrainians by the millions. It is time for this to stop once and for all. Russia must be defeated and defeated badly on the battlefield. It might be the only way to get through their thick skulls to any brain matter that might exist. And yet, I still debate if there is any brain matter.

[mitch96]

18. Historically they have never cared about the rank and file soldiers. Just throw them into the meat grinder

till they overwhelm the enemy. In 1917 the army had enough. In 1917 the people had enough..
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[ITAL]

27. Then their Civil War had even more die than in WWI

I kinda wonder if in the early 1920s most Russians second guessed throwing off the Czar. Not that staying in WWI was good, but their CW was even worse.

[OAITW r.2.0]

45. Historically, Russian society has had the most extremist of leaders.

Why do Russian people coalesce around authoritarian leaders that kill large segments of people and destroy their society?

[Billsdaughter]

12. Russia is conscripting old and emaciated

Drunks from Siberia and forcing them to fight in the Donbas. This is the level Putin has sunk to. Unless and until Russians stand up en masses against Putin, the degradation of the Russian people continues. Oddly, many Russians still support this invasion.

Meanwhile the Ukraine Spring Offensive is off to an amazing start. With new and overwhelming support from European countries, Ukraine is gaining on all fronts.

As a Ukranian American I could not be more proud. Ukrainians are resilient people and have a fortitude greater than most, primarily as a result of occupations they have defeated time and again over centuries.

Please consider donating a life-saving FLAK survival kit via White Stork. One $37 kit could save the life of a brave defender.

HEROYAM SLAVA! SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦

[oberle]

22. I sent 3 of those FLAK survival kits

to some friends in Ohio that send supplies through Poland to Ukraine.

[Billsdaughter]

37. You havecsaved three lives, three limbs

and that's a huge contribution. The whole world is helping.

[OAITW r.2.0]

28. You should be proud.

Ukraine got sucker punched by Putin. He thought he could do a "Hitler into Czechoslovakia" re-run. He didn't and Russia has been set back decades.

On edit. Ukraine, is, bar none, the best tactical military force on the planet right now. They've had 4 years of kicking Russia's awesome military to prove it..

Putin wants to start a 2nd front against Latvia, Estonia. Lithuanian? Give it a shot, Vlad.

[Billsdaughter]

38. Yes we are very proud.

It's amazing how much better things are going since the Trump regime turned our backs on Ukraine.

Trump was caught red-handed sharing intelligence with Putin. Macron and Zelensky set Trump up with fake intel which he immediately shared with Putin.

[OAITW r.2.0]

43. Disagree, fundementally. We should have continued Biden's support of Ukraine....taking the lead with our NATO allies.

Supporting European Democracy. Had we had a "America First" leader, he/she would be leading the coalition that forces Russia's surrender.

As part of that support, we should have wiped out Iranian Shaheed production. Nukes wasn't a problem, Shaheed drone production was.

[Billsdaughter]

50. Agree but that's not where we are.

Zelensky long suspected Trump was sharing intelligence with Putin. Zelensky and Macron proved unequivocally Trump was indeed sharing intelligence by giving Trump fake intel immediately acted upon by Russia.

The farther away the US is from Ukraine the better this war goes for Ukraine.

The damage to the US is deep, is broad and will take years to remedy.

[OAITW r.2.0]

51. Amazing how US policy can do a 180 in 18 months,

Sad for us, sadder for the world.

[Easterncedar]

14. Seems to me Russia has been targeting civilians

Ukraine not so much? Is it just the way our news is bent? We hear of oil infrastructure and military installations and arms depots hit by Ukraine while apartment buildings, busy train stations, and funerals and schools are being targeted by Russia. Not to mention the damage to the nuclear plant and that horrific dam destruction.

[Renew Deal]

15. Ukraine is going to need to be able to recapture land.

If you want to talk about surrender.

[OAITW r.2.0]

46. While there has been little movement on lines over the past few weeks....

Russia is getting defeated behind the lines. Russian solders aren't anxious to advance to their deaths. So Ukraine is cutting off the war machine behind them. I expect to see a growing number of Russians that "want to live".

[WarGamer]

16. 95% of what?

[stopdiggin]

19. Yeah. I mean - what the heck does that actually MEAN .. ?

[OAITW r.2.0]

32. Ukrainian solders credit with 5% of Russian casualties in the last month. Drones - 95%

Oh, and Ukraine is now running an "Unmanned Ground Vehicle" assault on Russian lines. Russians can't compete with Ukraine's technical onslaught.

Since Russia want's to erase Ukrainian culture....how about leveling Saint Basil's Cathedral in Moscow? That would be a Russian eye=opener, even without Telegram.

[BannonsLiver]

42. I know it's been hard to watch, but I'm here for support if needed.

Those darned Ukrainians don’t seem to be taking that unconditional surrender suggestion very seriously.

[Historic NY]

20. They have taken the German Leopard tanks and made them killing machines

they can hit a target at 5.5 km

[OAITW r.2.0]

33. Saw that today. Perfect set-up. I assume....but the poor bastards in the T-90

were 1/2 that distance away from attempting a kill-shot.

[Swede]

24. There's some pretty brutal videos on Reddit. Ukraine ain't playing around.

nt

[Dethhogan]

26. Putin should just do the honorable thing...

And put a bullet in his brain like a lot of failed dictators.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

39. Welcome to DU

[niyad]

29. What an odd way to phrase your title. Did you accidentally say Ukraine,

rather than ruzzia? Because it isn't Ukraine bombing hospitals and schools and apartment buildings. Perhaps you could rewrite your title to more accurately reflect the situation?

[OAITW r.2.0]

34. Should have been clearer. Russian soldiers dying in the meatgrinder.

Putin is committing war-crimes. Ukraine is fighting this Russian war machine that is committing war crimes against Ukraine's civilians.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

30. Is there a link to those numbers?

I've read that the robots have done the work of Ukrane ground troops. But not to that extent.

[Wednesdays]

36. I was about to say...

30,000 per month? The USA lost 50,000 in TEN YEARS in Vietnam.

That's like Russia having Vietnam War-scale losses every two months.

[OAITW r.2.0]

47. True. Weird thing is every drone records their strike.

Federov, head of Ukraine's defense, is shooting for 50K casualties a month. Weirdly, but this is the 21st century, they are compiling/scoring various drone units. Like a video game. Best performances get awards and access to better drone tech.

[Disaffected]

35. Russia is apparently suffering more casualties per month in Ukraine

than they did throughout their entire Afghanistan invasion.

[Disaffected]

41. Yes, that would be a silver lining alright if

Putin and his gang were deposed for their crimes and some form of democratic government replaced them.

Trump, then Putin, would that be too much to ask?

[OAITW r.2.0]

48. If Putin goes....where goes Trump?

Without a business partner, Trump is lost.

[Disaffected]

49. To Hell I hope. nt

[LetMyPeopleVote]

52. Here are the latest numbers