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gab13by13

(32,489 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 07:55 AM Wednesday

The Downed Pilot Was A Cover Story To Extract Uranium

Krasnov fired Chief of Staff of the Army, General Randy George because he told Krasnov, and Whiskey Pete, that any attempt to secure Iran's uranium was foolhardy. It appears that General George was right, so Krasnov fired another competent general most likely replaced by a yes man.

There is overwhelming evidence that the US failed in a mission to secure Iran's uranium. (see link provided)

The fog of war is more dense when Krasnov and Hogsbreath lie to us.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/was-us-airman-rescue-a-cover-for-special-ops-to-extract-uranium-from-iran/ar-AA20go9A

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The Downed Pilot Was A Cover Story To Extract Uranium (Original Post) gab13by13 Wednesday OP
Was there really a downed second pilot? FarPoint Wednesday #1
Anyone miss Barbara Starr yet? gab13by13 Wednesday #2
The entire second pilot narrative was weird Buckeyeblue Wednesday #3
Since the F-15 shot down has two crew members I'm going to say yes EX500rider Wednesday #32
A pilot that was a colonel Renew Deal Wednesday #34
He wasn't the pilot he was the back seat radar weapons operator EX500rider Wednesday #35
I think so ...... H2O Man Wednesday #36
Damn right Whip-poor-will Wednesday #4
I, and some folks whose opinions I trust, displacedvermoter Wednesday #5
India Today - Bias and Credibility littlemissmartypants Wednesday #6
Thank you for posting this, gab13by13 Wednesday #9
My pleasure, gab13by13. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Wednesday #33
The article characterizes this as the latest unconfirmed online conspiracy theory. sl8 Wednesday #7
There are photos of the destroyed aircraft gab13by13 Wednesday #10
Two C-130s and two Black Hawks were "lost" Kid Berwyn Wednesday #11
And one of the article's anonymous sources on Twitter also claims Oct 7 was a false flag attack by Israel muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #15
There were a bunch of destroyed aircraft Red Mountain Wednesday #8
"The first casualty in any war is the truth." JohnnyRingo Wednesday #12
Very interesting article, compelling arguments, a few more investigative reporters need to look into this further. sop Wednesday #13
"India Today" is your source? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #14
You mean corporate media? BannonsLiver Wednesday #23
But they were negotiating to hand it over until Trump cancelled negotiations and started bombing with Israel. ChicagoTeamster Wednesday #16
LOL Greg_In_SF Wednesday #17
How many soldiers died in this failed mission? They haven't told us the whole story yet... liberalla Wednesday #18
I've been suspicious of the story, like many. hamsterjill Wednesday #19
Hitler had a great way of getting consensus among his Generals FakeNoose Wednesday #20
I agree and what happened to the pilot? the_liberal_grandpa Wednesday #21
I don't know what to believe BannonsLiver Wednesday #22
Well, you can read the article which says "no credible evidence has yet emerged to substantiate these allegations" muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #24
That's fine, but it's not just about one story. BannonsLiver Wednesday #28
No, it is just about one story. The story this thread is about. muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #30
Orwell wept. "No evidence" is overwhelming evidence sarisataka Wednesday #25
This is just too despicable. Baitball Blogger Wednesday #26
They is plenty of odditys to support the theory. yourout Wednesday #27
Seems there are some questions in need of answering. yellow dahlia Wednesday #29
The amount of planes- "150" is not really a red flag to me EX500rider Wednesday #31
The article ForgedCrank Wednesday #37
Another source canetoad Thursday #38
from your link... WarGamer Thursday #39
Like asserting the Kurdish army will lead a charge into Iran Torchlight Thursday #40
At the time it was a popularly held opinion... WarGamer Friday #41

FarPoint

(14,875 posts)
1. Was there really a downed second pilot?
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:00 AM
Wednesday

we have no name...no update...just dropped after the movie version of victory...since it was a failed mission.

If there was a second pilot, was he captured?

gab13by13

(32,489 posts)
2. Anyone miss Barbara Starr yet?
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:09 AM
Wednesday

CNN Pentagon correspondent.

Krasnov eliminated the Pentagon press corps. I have heard no one ask this administration about the failed uranium extraction raid.

We lost millions of dollars in aircraft, hopefully we didn't lose any troops.

Buckeyeblue

(6,388 posts)
3. The entire second pilot narrative was weird
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:12 AM
Wednesday

I posted on here it was Orwellian because everything was so vague. It was unlike Trump not to want to parade him around. I get he was supposedly hurt, but again, Trump being Trump, there would have been pictures of the downed pilot thanking Trump for his rescue.

EX500rider

(12,637 posts)
35. He wasn't the pilot he was the back seat radar weapons operator
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 11:32 PM
Wednesday

And at that rank most likely either squadron commander or the strike package Commander

Whip-poor-will

(339 posts)
4. Damn right
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:17 AM
Wednesday

Another FAILURE invading a desert country.

But But trump was a genius for sending out a secret mission.

displacedvermoter

(4,752 posts)
5. I, and some folks whose opinions I trust,
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:28 AM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:48 PM - Edit history (1)

just assumed that the rear seater was a top level ops officer, Colonel or Brig General who was in direct charge of a special air operation -- and may not have actually been allowed to be up their in the first place -- and they didn't want that person captured for obvious reasons. That person may now be in the shits, hence no word on name, etc.

I would put nothing past these lying fucks, though, and if they fucked up a special ops mission and are spinning it as a dramatic Entebe level mission, sounds plausible.

littlemissmartypants

(34,026 posts)
6. India Today - Bias and Credibility
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:36 AM
Wednesday
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/india-today/

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS

Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER (3.6)
Factual Reporting: MIXED (5.0)
Country: India
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MODERATE FREEDOM
Media Type: Magazine
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY

Overall, we rate India Today Right-Center Biased based on editorial positions that favor the conservative government. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks.

gab13by13

(32,489 posts)
9. Thank you for posting this,
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:58 AM
Wednesday

I know exactly what type of organization India-Today is. As a matter of fact, this is the first time I have even clicked on it.

The fact that India - Today reported this makes it all the more believable to me.

75% of the links that people do here are right wing, it is one of my pet peeves.

Feel free to alert on me for citing a right wing news source but the narrative it portrays certainly isn't right wing.

Did you even read what the article said?

sl8

(17,120 posts)
7. The article characterizes this as the latest unconfirmed online conspiracy theory.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:41 AM
Wednesday
India Today isn't a particularly reliable source, but at least they point out that this is just the latest unconfirmed online conspiracy theory. Their sources for this "article" are Twitter posts.

gab13by13

(32,489 posts)
10. There are photos of the destroyed aircraft
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 09:06 AM
Wednesday

The amount of aircraft involved in a rescue mission is extremely not normal and certainly wasn't a made up internet conspiracy theory. There is enough evidence out there that common sense would tell me that this was more than a rescue mission.

One of the reasons that General Randy George was fired was because he said that a mission to secure Iran's uranium was foolhardy.

I doubt that Krasnov or Whiskey Pete would ever go public about a failed mission.

Without a viable Pentagon press corps we are in the dark.

Kid Berwyn

(24,701 posts)
11. Two C-130s and two Black Hawks were "lost"
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 09:12 AM
Wednesday

That's plenty of aircraft to extract an aircrew.

Coincidentally, they could safely extract more than a few tons of uranium.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,360 posts)
15. And one of the article's anonymous sources on Twitter also claims Oct 7 was a false flag attack by Israel
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 09:45 AM
Wednesday

"Israel's Oct 7 false flag from Gaza was just an excuse to move in and capture the largest natural gas deposits in the region. Lebanon also has mass deposits making Israel monstrously rich" - @FinanceLancelot

You're relying on a lunatic for your claim.

Red Mountain

(2,365 posts)
8. There were a bunch of destroyed aircraft
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:58 AM
Wednesday

Were they near enough a known storage site to serve as a base of operations?

Or were they a diversion?

Double super secret storage site, perhaps?

sop

(18,886 posts)
13. Very interesting article, compelling arguments, a few more investigative reporters need to look into this further.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 09:21 AM
Wednesday

At the time I recall wondering about the second pilot, and the lack of reporting about this massive "rescue" operation.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,073 posts)
16. But they were negotiating to hand it over until Trump cancelled negotiations and started bombing with Israel.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 09:47 AM
Wednesday
 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
17. LOL
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 09:52 AM
Wednesday

"But conspiracy theories fill the void for unanswered questions. In the US and Israel's war against Iran, the latest theory circulating on social media alleges..."

"No official confirmation or credible evidence has yet emerged to substantiate these allegations."

liberalla

(11,148 posts)
18. How many soldiers died in this failed mission? They haven't told us the whole story yet...
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 10:05 AM
Wednesday

hamsterjill

(17,663 posts)
19. I've been suspicious of the story, like many.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 10:19 AM
Wednesday

Look, if there had been a second pilot rescued during a valiant attempt on Easter, no less, then don't you think Trump would be parading that person around like the Door Dash Grannie so that he could get his proper praise?

No name, no story, no interviews, no family, nothing...

It's almost like another ear grew back.

FakeNoose

(41,952 posts)
20. Hitler had a great way of getting consensus among his Generals
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 10:20 AM
Wednesday

Any General who was foolish enough to disagree with him got taken out and shot. Problem solved.

21. I agree and what happened to the pilot?
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 10:51 AM
Wednesday

Has anyone seen or heard from this pilot who was reportedly rescued?

You would think they would put him or his family on tv to crow about how wonderful the pedo-in-chief is.

To my knowledge nothing close to that has happened.

There was way too much equipment and manpower brought in to rescue one pilot.

We reportedly blew up our 2 AC130 airplanes valued at 100 million a plane along with 2 helicopters and I think they would parade
this heroic pilot out to thank everyone. Or at least tell us how he is doing.

Did we really rescue the pilot?

I am not sure.

BannonsLiver

(20,708 posts)
22. I don't know what to believe
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 12:24 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2026, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)

But I am surprised at the number of people in the thread falling all over themselves to swallow without question the Trump regime’s version of events. Talk about weird.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,360 posts)
24. Well, you can read the article which says "no credible evidence has yet emerged to substantiate these allegations"
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 12:55 PM
Wednesday

and start from there. Or you can note that the plane came down in Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province, but the anonymous tweeters claim "the primary stockpile is located at Isfahan, exactly where the pilot was lost", but that is in Isfahan province, over 100 km from Kohgiluyeh and Boyer-Ahmad province.

Then you could wonder if we are "defending the Trump regime’s version of events", or just trying to keep basic facts and reality in view, as opposed to believing an anonymous tweeter who also claims the Oct 7 attacks were an Israeli false flag.

BannonsLiver

(20,708 posts)
28. That's fine, but it's not just about one story.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 01:31 PM
Wednesday

Everything out of this administration should be viewed with suspicion, questions about veracity, etc., Skepticism. And I mean EVERYTHING. Why? Because they're all a bunch of confirmed serial fucking liars.

I would have thought that would be obvious to everyone by now. And frankly, nobody here knows what the "facts" are so "establishing" them, with this cabal in charge, is virtually impossible.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,360 posts)
30. No, it is just about one story. The story this thread is about.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 02:59 PM
Wednesday

That story is that an anonymous person who also claims Oct 7th was a false flag operation is lying about where Isfahan is, and using that as their "evidence" that the rescue was really a failed attempt to seize uranium. This is not an accusation from someone with any credibility - and India Today notes that. But the OP claims "overwhelming evidence" that it was about uranium. That is the "weird" thing here.

I if claimed that Trump was running Uighur slave labour camps, and I had no credible evidence for that, I'd hope several DUers would pull me up, and point out the holes in my claims. Even though Trump is evil and corrupt enough to be willing to do it.

sarisataka

(22,713 posts)
25. Orwell wept. "No evidence" is overwhelming evidence
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 12:55 PM
Wednesday

The source is best used to cover the bottom of the birdcage

Baitball Blogger

(52,488 posts)
26. This is just too despicable.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 12:59 PM
Wednesday

I was wondering why he wasn't taking advantage of a grand photo opportunity

yourout

(8,848 posts)
27. They is plenty of odditys to support the theory.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 01:16 PM
Wednesday

Plane and pilot went down 100 miles away supposedly. I doubt an injured pilot traveled that far on foot.
If it was really a rescue they would be parading him around non stop.

Also seems strange the amount and type of military hardware used

yellow dahlia

(6,171 posts)
29. Seems there are some questions in need of answering.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 02:23 PM
Wednesday

There were large numbers of aircraft as part of the rescue - the grifter let that slip at a presser.

I remember hearing something about some planes that crashed as part of the "rescue", which were destroyed by us...so they wouldn't get the technology. It was something that made me go "HUH?"

EX500rider

(12,637 posts)
31. The amount of planes- "150" is not really a red flag to me
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 03:55 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2026, 07:54 PM - Edit history (1)

The US crewmember was on the ground for 30+ hours?
Planes have a limited amount of fuel/munitions to stay in the area defending/looking for him, and I believe they kept a search up in another area also to throw off the Iranian's.
If even 20 planes were up at once over the area for 30+ hours that would be 100's+ as they rotated back for fuel/munitions every few hours and were replaced with fresh planes.

ForgedCrank

(3,115 posts)
37. The article
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 11:55 PM
Wednesday

very first words are "In the fog of war, clarity often arrives late. But conspiracy theories fill the void"
It's outright telling you the article is based on social media gossip

canetoad

(20,826 posts)
38. Another source
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:24 AM
Thursday

Defence Security Asia - don't know much about them or their backers.

(DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) — The American extraction of a surviving F-15E Strike Eagle crew member inside Iran has rapidly evolved from a celebrated rescue operation into an explosive geopolitical confrontation carrying potentially far-reaching nuclear implications.

Iranian officials now claim the operation was never primarily intended to recover the missing American weapons systems officer, but instead masked a covert raid targeting sensitive material inside central Iran.

Because the reported American landing zone allegedly differed dramatically from the believed location of the surviving airman, Tehran argues the rescue narrative conceals a deeper strategic objective.

President Donald Trump described the operation as a daring triumph, declaring “WE GOT HIM!” after American special forces extracted the surviving crew member following approximately thirty-six hours inside Iranian territory.

https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/tabas-ii-iran-claims-us-f15e-rescue-mission-was-cover-for-secret-uranium-raid-near-isfahan/

WarGamer

(18,738 posts)
39. from your link...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 01:56 AM
Thursday
In the fog of war, clarity often arrives late. But conspiracy theories fill the void for unanswered questions. In the US and Israel's war against Iran, the latest theory circulating on social media alleges that...

Torchlight

(6,922 posts)
40. Like asserting the Kurdish army will lead a charge into Iran
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 02:25 PM
Thursday

All kinds of silliness these days, but I place it on the person rather than the excuse.

WarGamer

(18,738 posts)
41. At the time it was a popularly held opinion...
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:34 AM
Friday
https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/politics/cia-arming-kurds-iran

The CIA is working to arm Kurdish forces with the aim of fomenting a popular uprising in Iran, multiple people familiar with the plan told CNN.
The Trump administration has been in active discussions with Iranian opposition groups and Kurdish leaders in Iraq about providing them with military support, the sources said.

Iranian Kurdish armed groups have thousands of forces operating along the Iraq-Iran border, primarily in Iraq’s Kurdistan region. Several of the groups have released public statements since the beginning of the war hinting at imminent action and urging Iranian military forces to defect. Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has been striking Kurdish groups and said on Tuesday that it targeted Kurdish forces with dozens of drones.
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