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PunkinPi

(5,287 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:21 AM Yesterday

The Magical Thinking Behind Graham Platner's Rise

Here’s a thought experiment: Imagine a sitting governor who ascended to power as a feminist hero is running for the U.S. Senate. She has a record of service in the interest of shared prosperity, social liberalism, and the environment. As governor, she expanded Medicaid, terminating work requirements for the poor to access healthcare, and easily won reelection. She eliminated tuition at community colleges, making a long-standing goal of Democratic politics, articulated by everyone from Jesse Jackson in the 1980s to Barack Obama in the 2010s, a reality in her state. Meanwhile, her record on climate change earned enough international accolades for her to become the first U.S. governor to address the United Nations General Assembly. During her speech, she delineated a plan to make her state carbon-neutral by 2045. At a moment of crisis when political courage is a necessity, she advocated for transgender rights, challenging Donald Trump, to his face, at the White House on his bigotry and ignorance. She refused to relent even after Trump threatened to freeze federal funding for agricultural projects in her state, eventually winning a court decision to restore those subsidies.

Her opponent is a former Marine, mercenary, and bartender with no political experience, and judging from the way he speaks, a similar vacuity of knowledge. He has admitted to making a series of racist, homophobic, and misogynistic remarks, even blaming rape victims, if they were drunk, for their own trauma, not as a rebellious teenager, but merely five years ago. On his chest, he has a tattoo of a “Totenkopf”—a “death skull” that became prominent in Nazi iconography. SS guards had the same skull on their uniforms. He claims that he was unaware of the history or meaning of the symbol when he got the tattoo. He was drunk, which, according to his moral philosophy, absolves him of blame, unlike women who are raped, and in his words, “should take responsibility for getting so f**ked up that they wind up having sex with someone they don’t mean to.” His campaign manager has resigned, claiming that the candidate was aware of the tattoo’s significance.

...

It turns out that the thought experiment is not hypothetical. Instead, it is an actual Senate primary campaign in Maine where the first candidate, Governor Janet Mills, is vying for national office against Graham Platner, an SS-tattooed amateur. Those who believe that we live in a world where words have real meaning, where a rational public evaluates politicians by their record of achievements and failures, and where all prominent progressives demonstrate fidelity to their stated values, would be wrong to assume that leftists are rallying behind Mills. Instead, Senators Bernie Sanders and Martin Heinrich have endorsed Platner, as has Representative Ro Khanna. The United Auto Workers has declared its support for Platner, and so too have popular “progressive” media personalities, such as Emma Vigeland, Cenk Uygur, and Ryan Grim, who chastised objection to Platner’s repeated assertions that Black customers don’t tip, his repeated use of the epithet “faggot,” and the Nazi imagery above his nipple, as “hall monitor BS that makes the Democrats toxic.”

...

In the society of spectacle that is the U.S. under the epistemic tyranny of social media, “progressives,” like Sanders and Grim, care about the “working class” and despise “the establishment.” In a society of reality, caring about the working class would mean supporting policies that raise their standard of living and increase their opportunities for upward mobility, such as expanding access to Medicaid and making community college tuition-free. In a society of spectacle, “working class” depends upon the imagery that mediates social (and political) relations, meaning that the invocation of the demographic phrase calls to mind someone like Platner—a gruff, “man’s man” with a military record who works on a farm, with a voice like voiceover from a pickup truck ad—not someone like Mills, an elderly woman with a successful legal career. Women, from Hillary Clinton to Kamala Harris, and now Janet Mills, cannot register with the working class because in America, “working class” means a man holding a shovel or wearing a hard hat. It certainly doesn’t mean a Latina home health aide or Asian American pre-school teacher, even if, in post-industrialization, women in low-wage service and retail occupations are much more predominant among the proletariat.

Source/more: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/11/12/the-magical-thinking-behind-graham-platners-rise/


To me, this article nails it.
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The Magical Thinking Behind Graham Platner's Rise (Original Post) PunkinPi Yesterday OP
"racist, homophobic, and misogynistic remarks" -- ableist too. He's used the r-word in the past couple months. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #1
This is one of the most discouraging things right now. yardwork Yesterday #2
I hadn't realized Sanders endorsed Platner displacedvermoter Yesterday #3
There have been quiet a few eye opening endorsements from those who call themselves "progressive"... PunkinPi Yesterday #8
Warren is about as consistent and wise displacedvermoter Yesterday #11
I have the opposite take. For *ALL* of those people and groups to support him over Mills... thesquanderer Yesterday #57
Very good article kxs 7 hrs ago #128
Please, Sander has better judgement than that SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #22
Also, don't forget Tulsi being a Sanders Institute fellow. nt PunkinPi Yesterday #29
Once more, about Fetterman. There's no nuance Deminpenn Yesterday #80
Elizabeth Warren has as well. BannonsLiver Yesterday #42
Bernie Sanders endorsed Platner well before Janet Mills was dragged into the race by Jack Valentino 16 hrs ago #107
Excellent analysis thought crime 14 hrs ago #118
This +1 Emile 10 hrs ago #120
So the Nazi stuff is not worth talking about? displacedvermoter 8 hrs ago #125
Why the nazi tattoo guy is winning in Maine. Emile 7 hrs ago #127
It absolutely does dsc Yesterday #4
and Platner has a 33 point lead over Mills. Emile Yesterday #5
Spot On Starbeach Yesterday #6
I was wondering the exact same thing about Platner ABC123Easy Yesterday #7
That article ignores the unpopular things Mills has done, and which makes her a poor candidate to take out Platner Celerity Yesterday #9
I have to trust bagimin Yesterday #14
It is important we ask ourselves... mr715 Yesterday #16
There's a scene in 'O Brother Where Are Art Thou?' TheProle Yesterday #40
One of my all time favorites. Lot of truth in that film. harumph Yesterday #61
+1 leftstreet Yesterday #30
Overriding the filibuster could be an important tactic. everyonematters Yesterday #49
It's another sign of the big problem in the Democratic Party. yardwork Yesterday #65
She has won quite a few statewide elections in Maine. She has a better chance against Collins. FascismIsDeath 17 hrs ago #101
My point was to critique the 2 main choices, try to explain why Mills, for Maine Dem voters, is a poor candidate to Celerity 11 hrs ago #119
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #10
So you'd rather an unqualified racist, sexist man? mcar Yesterday #13
Better, non-AIPAC candidates Karyn the Great Yesterday #19
So you'd rather an unqualified racist, sexist man mcar Yesterday #20
Thanks for the correction, yes AIPAC Karyn the Great Yesterday #23
I think the repeated non-answers are answers. MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #69
Yep mcar 23 hrs ago #85
There is absolutely no proof radical noodle Yesterday #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #50
In other words radical noodle Yesterday #78
Yeah, "Nothing"... Mahalo, for Cha 23 hrs ago #84
I need to see... 2naSalit Yesterday #63
So now "AIPAC-funded" is just a euphemism for "Jew money." Gotcha. tritsofme Yesterday #70
Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #72
AIPAC isn't Israeli money, it's American money. tritsofme Yesterday #79
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #81
No one here was going to vote for the candidate who has accepted funds from AIPAC, I don't think. WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #89
Another problem with her age is she'd presumably have only 1 opportunity to run again as an incumbent... thesquanderer Yesterday #51
All those who are saying "too old" (which is ageist btw), better keep that same energy for... PunkinPi Yesterday #25
And running for President mr715 Yesterday #39
Yes, runs for president under the Democratic party umbrella, then when he loses... PunkinPi Yesterday #55
To his credit, he has issue discipline. mr715 Yesterday #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles 9 hrs ago #122
THANK YOU Skittles 9 hrs ago #121
"If you write a best-selling book, you can be a millionaire too!" betsuni 7 hrs ago #130
One of the funniest parts to me is that I remember when he included "millionaires and billionaires" in his rallying cry PunkinPi 6 hrs ago #134
Yup. Was always "millionaires and billionaires" and then millionaires disappeared in 2019. betsuni 5 hrs ago #136
Bernie got community healthcare centers funded as part of the Obamacare package questionseverything Yesterday #59
Oh Sanders Filed to run for Senate in 2030, But Cha 22 hrs ago #86
some people simply cannot give up power Skittles 9 hrs ago #124
Show me an example... 2naSalit Yesterday #38
I get the distinct impression you have never met her ir talked with her. DFW Yesterday #46
I can't wrap my head around JustAnotherGen Yesterday #62
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #67
He's a white man. Not to overstate the obvious but, you know. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #73
n/s JustAnotherGen Yesterday #75
He plans to run again in 2030. 😱 sheshe2 19 hrs ago #93
No demands to pass the torch. There was practically a whole cottage industry devoted to hounding Nancy Pelosi. betsuni 17 hrs ago #103
No, it never ends. sheshe2 17 hrs ago #104
I know what you mean. betsuni 17 hrs ago #105
JHFC JustAnotherGen 6 hrs ago #133
Age is "identity politics" distracting from economic class, only bad for the "establishment " betsuni 18 hrs ago #96
And we all know JustAnotherGen 6 hrs ago #132
Good to see you back. Keepthesoulalive 17 hrs ago #102
I'm all over the Threads app JustAnotherGen 6 hrs ago #131
Quite energetic in standing up to Trump delisen Yesterday #68
I will never understand why voters, even on the left, mcar Yesterday #12
Not this voter, that ship has sailed. Karyn the Great Yesterday #21
Where do you live in Maine? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #66
There was one post somewhere saying... sheshe2 19 hrs ago #95
I saw that and the top of my head almost blew off mcar 18 hrs ago #98
I have a couple of ideas, and I too will keep them to myself. sheshe2 17 hrs ago #100
Just watch CuriousSavage Yesterday #15
Bernie is one of my Senators... GiqueCee Yesterday #17
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #48
I'm hoping Bernie will rescind his endorsement... GiqueCee Yesterday #53
And admit he was wrong? MichMan Yesterday #71
Because I've done business... GiqueCee 23 hrs ago #83
my guess Skittles 9 hrs ago #123
That has not been my experience... GiqueCee 7 hrs ago #129
Perfect, absolutely correct. Thank you thank you thank you thank you. betsuni Yesterday #18
This is definitely a tough one adam_vermont Yesterday #24
I am also concerned about Platner's campaign, but I also do not think Mills is the BComplex Yesterday #26
PA had other options for senate than Fetterman, Conor Lamb or Malcolm Kenyetta. PunkinPi Yesterday #36
Mills, on paper should be the ideal democratic candidate fujiyamasan Yesterday #27
Mills is very pro Israel , signed legislation that makes it illegal to boycott Israel's investments and questionseverything Yesterday #54
Why does "Hegseth lite" come to mind? littlemissmartypants Yesterday #74
That's actually a funny way to think of him fujiyamasan Yesterday #77
Is he even a Democrat or is he pretending to be one? radical noodle Yesterday #28
Alas, it is unlikely he is ending up in the dust bin mr715 Yesterday #34
Planter is Gaslighting Bashing Dems... Cha 22 hrs ago #87
Excellent reply to "Planter's text"... Cha 22 hrs ago #88
Thanks Cha! radical noodle 20 hrs ago #92
I'm So Glad you Didn't.. I had No idea Planter was Cha 17 hrs ago #106
Good to "see" you, Cha! radical noodle 15 hrs ago #111
You, too, rad! ☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜🌈🌊 Cha 15 hrs ago #113
Holy SHIT! sheshe2 16 hrs ago #108
I can post it sometime tomorrow radical noodle 15 hrs ago #112
I didn't post it, it's yours! sheshe2 14 hrs ago #115
I just looked it up on the net. sheshe2 15 hrs ago #109
Wow,she... Excellent Find! I hope you Cha 14 hrs ago #114
Message is: I hate the Democratic Party as much as you do, vote for me! Solidarity, send money! betsuni 14 hrs ago #117
Why does the writer put "progressive" in quotes? leftstreet Yesterday #32
Very much so. mr715 Yesterday #33
See post #8 for his list of endorsers, most of which consider themselves progressive. PunkinPi Yesterday #37
Perhaps for the same reason many moderates claim to be "progressive"... luv2fly 19 hrs ago #94
Can't rec this enough. SamuelAdams Yesterday #35
No matter what... 2naSalit Yesterday #41
Right arm, 2na... yorkster Yesterday #44
Just went through... 2naSalit Yesterday #58
I hope you and other Mainers do decide that Gov. Mills is the person you want to represent your state. PunkinPi Yesterday #45
Last month... 2naSalit Yesterday #64
Candidates can't make voters fall in love with them. BannonsLiver Yesterday #43
It's like he's telling Fetterman to hold his beer and voters are like "ok cool." This is nuts. themaguffin Yesterday #47
I know little about Maine, other than it's a beautiful place to visit, but is sexism and ageism at play there? surfered Yesterday #52
Platner damn well better not be another Fetterman. DinahMoeHum Yesterday #60
Thank you for the discussion, PunkinPi. ... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #76
Great article LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #82
Americans' contempt for elites is why he's winning Emile 21 hrs ago #90
Me watching people impotently trying to stop Platner Prairie Gates 21 hrs ago #91
They definitely are not helping the Mills campaign. Emile 17 hrs ago #99
Complete puff piece on the governor (NM) biocube 18 hrs ago #97
Sorry but watching Platner's rise is like yorkster 15 hrs ago #110
Extremely Proud of this Community Aepps22 14 hrs ago #116
Fetterman II: it has a 'blood and soil for young progressives' tint to it bucolic_frolic 8 hrs ago #126
I like Mills and don't like Platner WSHazel 5 hrs ago #135
Susan Collins will have fun using this if Platner is the nominee LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #137

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,074 posts)
1. "racist, homophobic, and misogynistic remarks" -- ableist too. He's used the r-word in the past couple months.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:28 AM
Yesterday
, “working class” depends upon the imagery that mediates social (and political) relations, meaning that the invocation of the demographic phrase calls to mind someone like Platner—a gruff, “man’s man” with a military record who works on a farm, with a voice like voiceover from a pickup truck ad
-- he is all of that AND ALSO a guy who came from money and went to private schools who is supported by his mom. It's unreal what people will fall for.

displacedvermoter

(4,713 posts)
3. I hadn't realized Sanders endorsed Platner
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:50 AM
Yesterday

Don't like that, too much. I don't trust Platner not to go all Fetterman on us soon, ala Jared Golden in cammo.

PunkinPi

(5,287 posts)
8. There have been quiet a few eye opening endorsements from those who call themselves "progressive"...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:27 AM
Yesterday

and it doesn't (imo) speak well of any of them.

Key Endorsements for Graham Platner:

- U.S. Senators: Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Ruben Gallego, Martin Heinrich, and support from Chris Murphy and Sheldon Whitehouse.
- U.S. Representative: Ro Khanna.
- Political Leaders/Officials: Former U.S. Secretary of Labor Robert Reich.

Organizations:
- Labor: Maine State Nurses Association (MSNA/NNOC), National Nurses United (NNU), United Auto Workers (UAW), International Federation of Professional and Technical Engineers.
- Progressive/Advocacy: Maine People's Alliance, SURJ (Show Up for Racial Justice), Our Revolution, Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC), Gen-Z for Change, Common Defense Action Fund, College Democrats of America, Leaders We Deserve, and Youth Save Democracy.

--
This is quick AI summary of his endorsers.

displacedvermoter

(4,713 posts)
11. Warren is about as consistent and wise
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:42 AM
Yesterday

a Progressive as we have in the Senate. Like with Sanders I am taken back by her endorsement, especially over another very prominent New England woman.

Not sure except that maybe they believe he can carry the Jared Golden voters and foresters from the Deep Woods who are Trumpers. They are looking for Senate control.

Just hope they get their win, and that these endorsement decisions don't backfire on us down the road. Let us pray no cross burning videos or new tattoos come to light a week before the election.

thesquanderer

(13,050 posts)
57. I have the opposite take. For *ALL* of those people and groups to support him over Mills...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:16 PM
Yesterday

...I would think that it's possible that you may be missing something. I'm not saying Platner doesn't have his negatives... all candidates have positives and negatives. But when not just one or two of those people/groups, but rather *all* of them, have decided that, on balance, he's their pick... I'd be very hesitant to say it doesn't speak well of them, that *all* of them have screwed up and chosen to support someone who, under no circumstances, deserves that kind of legitimization.

The article you post makes good points, but I think this one does as well (even while being, I think, more fair to his competitor):

https://themainemonitor.org/graham-platner-success-explained/


kxs

(37 posts)
128. Very good article
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 08:10 AM
7 hrs ago

Thank you for posting this counter-argument to help us understand the bigger picture.

Deminpenn

(17,543 posts)
80. Once more, about Fetterman. There's no nuance
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 03:41 PM
Yesterday

with him. He is black and white when it comes to what he believes. He is 1000% behind Israel but also LBGTQ rights for example. I suspect he will find a good bit of common ground with whichever Dem is elected by Mainers.

And a reminder that he voted for every Biden judicial nominee when he was part of a single seat Fem Senate majority.

Jack Valentino

(5,136 posts)
107. Bernie Sanders endorsed Platner well before Janet Mills was dragged into the race by
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:32 PM
16 hrs ago

Chuck Shumer, and before any of the negative stories about Platner had come out-- just to put it in an accurate context....


I myself was an ardent Sanders supporter in 2016, but his endorsements do not determine
my support or non-support of any candidates in 2026---
Indeed, in 2020, I voted for Joe Biden in the Democratic primaries,
even though Sanders was running again, and I suppose I favored Sanders more on 'policy'---
I thought Biden the better GE candidate for that moment,
so I voted for him, and he won the nomination AND most importantly,
the General election!

(AND went on to become the most progressive President we have had for a while,
and gave Sanders a 'seat at the table'!)


Now in this particular race, I too had doubts about Platner---
when the negative stories first came out, I thought he was SUNK---

but the polls of Maine Democratic primary and GE likely voters tell a different story---
and as far as I am concerned, this primary is OVER when Platner leads Mills
by more than 20 percentage points, and performs much better against Collins
than Mills does, in General Election polls!---
(much bolstered by his strength among younger voters, whom we
as a party need to win back!)

BE WARY of articles like this, which attack whom appears to be
the STRONGEST Democratic candidate in a particular state---
just because they are still attempting to re-fight the 2016 Democratic presidential primary----
and attempt to "tar" the candidate with the "Bernie" brush---!

YES, Janet Mills has strong credentials on 'social issues'
which have not been winning elections for us,
but she has been particularly WEAK on LABOR issues---- Google it!
https://www.google.com/search?q=janet+mills+anti-labor+actions+in+maine&sca_esv=d5f39639bc60d663&sxsrf=ANbL-n6lxoyBrzUHal6xrekaXq0M7s1sFw%3A1776396168490&source=hp&ei=iKfhad7JG7-KptQPvPPM6QM&iflsig=AFdpzrgAAAAAaeG1mHdVAbyI9Yk1p8WyiJ5glzoX1YWY&oq=&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IgAqAggBMgcQIxjqAhgnMgcQIxjqAhgnMgcQIxjqAhgnMg0QLhjHARjRAxjqAhgnMgcQIxjqAhgnMgcQIxjqAhgnMgcQIxjqAhgnMgcQIxjqAhgnMgcQIxjqAhgnMgcQIxjqAhgnSJYnUABYAHABeACQAQCYAQCgAQCqAQC4AQHIAQCYAgGgAiWoAgqYAyXxBYRq8juwcDpckgcBMaAHALIHALgHAMIHAzQtMcgHHoAIAQ&sclient=gws-wiz

AI Overview
Governor Janet Mills has faced criticism for several actions viewed as anti-labor, including vetoing a bill aimed at protecting farmworkers' rights to collective action and facing a "bad faith" bargaining complaint from the state employees' union, MSEA-SEIU, in late 2025 regarding contract negotiations, staffing, and wages. However, her administration claims to have increased salary funding and signed other labor-supportive legislation.

Key actions and accusations regarding labor issues during the Mills administration include:
Vetoes of Worker Protections: Governor Mills vetoed legislation (LD 588) that would have allowed agricultural workers to engage in collective action without fear of retaliation, arguing it created a "new regulatory burden" on the sector.
State Employee Union Dispute: The Maine Service Employees Association (MSEA-SEIU) filed a complaint alleging "bad faith" bargaining by the administration in contract negotiations for nearly 10,000 workers. The union criticized a lack of progress on wage increases and retention.
Industry Concerns: Some critics, as highlighted by The Lever and Jacobin, suggest her record on certain vetoes has favored corporate interests over worker rights and collective bargaining.



And NO, I don't believe that Platner would 'become another Fetterman' or Manchin, if elected---
(he hasn't had a stroke and by age is less likely to have one), and
he seems prescient enough to realize whom his base voters are, whom are younger voters--
and would respond to their wants and needs, if elected!

and AGAIN, in my humble opinion, this primary is OVER!
so further attacks against Platner are attacks against the Democratic Party!
(my primary concern being that Democrats take over the US Senate!)















displacedvermoter

(4,713 posts)
125. So the Nazi stuff is not worth talking about?
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 07:44 AM
8 hrs ago

I didn't see it in your response, maybe I missed it?

Emile

(42,575 posts)
5. and Platner has a 33 point lead over Mills.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:13 AM
Yesterday

The primary in June will decide our democratic candidate.

Starbeach

(357 posts)
6. Spot On
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:16 AM
Yesterday

A working class hero is something to invent, while Mills' achievements are being tossed away like trash. I'd love to see her on the Senate floor.

ABC123Easy

(324 posts)
7. I was wondering the exact same thing about Platner
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:27 AM
Yesterday

.....and also the same thing about Steyer in CA.

How many Sinema's and Fetterman's are we going to fall for?

Celerity

(54,621 posts)
9. That article ignores the unpopular things Mills has done, and which makes her a poor candidate to take out Platner
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:35 AM
Yesterday

in the Democraric primary (which is being shown in the polls).

For instance: Mills is pro filibuster, she is anti-decriminalisation for small personal use amounts of drugs, she has been anti red-flag laws for guns, she has vetoed collective bargaining rights (so is anti-union to an impactful degree), she has vetoed wealth taxes, she has vetoed protections for renters, and she has vetoed some tribal sovereignty laws, etc.

All of that is not even taking into account she would be 85yo at the the end of her first term if she were to win both the primary and the general election. She would be the oldest ever newly elected first term US Senator in American history.

If a person is anti-Platner (and that is a valid stance IMHO, given his baggage), then I would think they must be very unhappy with Mills being their only other main choice (and Schumer and Gillibrand helping to make sure she was and is the only other main option, as they pushed hard to recruit her and only her).

mr715

(3,716 posts)
16. It is important we ask ourselves...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:48 AM
Yesterday

WHY is a candidate that has so many red flags winning by such a resounding number?

It isn't just ageism or optics. There is more going on.

It is an anti-incumbent environment (which is good for our party and for the Senate race in ME).

We shouldn't just be screaming into the wind about how Platner is a plant. We should be thinking about how we got here.

TheProle

(4,000 posts)
40. There's a scene in 'O Brother Where Are Art Thou?'
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:04 AM
Yesterday

where the old pol Pappy and his brain trust are trying to figure out how to one-up their opponents who have trotted out a little person as a gimmick:

Junior O'Daniel: We could hire our own midget, even shorter than his.
Pappy O'Daniel: Wouldn't we look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies, bragging on our own midget, doesn't matter how stumpy.

This is the kind of plot-missing, simplistic thinking I was reminded of after Harris' loss when the chorus rose up of (paraphrasing for effect): "We need us one of those loudmouth, wannabe tough guy white fella" as if that was some 3D chess mastery / reverse psychology master stroke.

This is what you get.

harumph

(3,320 posts)
61. One of my all time favorites. Lot of truth in that film.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:29 PM
Yesterday

One of the scenes that stayed with me is how the rally crowd turns on Homer Stokes - not because he is a KKK member per se, but because they see him as ruining their show. He insults the band members who the audience identifies with as "authentic" kinsmen. Pappy O'Daniel senses the crowd turn, captures the moment and co-opts the band for his own purposes.

I thought "Wow, this rings true. People are indeed that facile." Just look at the recent CPAC where the crowd cheered for Trump's impeachment.

Another favorite of mine is "A Face in the Crowd."

everyonematters

(4,198 posts)
49. Overriding the filibuster could be an important tactic.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

Many people in the country are struggling economically while billionaires keep sucking up more wealth. It is unlikely that we could accomplish anything significant in this area without getting past it. If we accomplish it, that will be reversing a great moral injustice and make us the dominant party. If we don't, we will continue swapping elections with the Republicans.

A lifelong politician like mills is not going to have statements or actions of the past that appear to be politically incorrect like an upstart as Platner.

Swalwell didn't have statements or actions like this which raises the question of how revealing is this of his actual character.

yardwork

(69,461 posts)
65. It's another sign of the big problem in the Democratic Party.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 01:01 PM
Yesterday

For decades the Democratic Party ran on a spoils system, and that worked ok until the 1970s or so.

Jimmy Carter was an outsider who got elected despite disapproval from the party regulars. And they never stopped griping about him. (Granted, Carter made a lot of mistakes. As an old friend of mine once said, he was a spaz at getting anything through Congress, despite a Democratic majority in both houses.)

Carter's issues led to the election of Reagan, cast as another "Washington outsider." So was Bill Clinton, in many ways so was Obama, and so was Trump.

It doesn't matter that it's the Republicans who keep taking things away from most of us. Busy people don't pay attention. They see the ads on TV and what their friends-neighbors-pastor-PTA-HOA social club says.

If you've watched your family have less and less over the years, as a voter you're going to be drawn to somebody who says they're not like the others. Somebody from outside. (Never mind that this is often a blatant lie, as in the case of Trump. It's a very compelling lie.)

And at this moment of crisis... what is the Democratic Party doing? Pushing older, establishment figures forward.

There could not be a dumber strategy at this point in time.

FascismIsDeath

(204 posts)
101. She has won quite a few statewide elections in Maine. She has a better chance against Collins.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:20 PM
17 hrs ago

Right now, that is all I care about as far as she is concerned.

I could never vote for Mr. Nazi Tattoo. That to me is worse than all her centrist bullshit combined.

Celerity

(54,621 posts)
119. My point was to critique the 2 main choices, try to explain why Mills, for Maine Dem voters, is a poor candidate to
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 04:52 AM
11 hrs ago

take out Platner in the Democratic primary.

The majority of the Maine Dems polled for ages, so far really disagree with many here on DU who think, even if Platner had disappeared or had never run that Mills is a great candidate. The fact she is getting hammered (so far) in the polls by the very problematic Platner further shows this to be true IMHO.

I was really hopeful about Jordan Wood, but then he dropped out to run for the US House in ME-2, after the worst Dem in the US House the centre RW Jared Golden (who stopped going to any Democratic House meetings years ago, to give but one example, plus has had so many terrible votes siding with the Rethugs), announced his retirement.

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Karyn the Great

(10 posts)
19. Better, non-AIPAC candidates
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:56 AM
Yesterday

Shumer needed to pick a better candidate, he’s got DNC establishment priorities that a not aligned with the electorate. AIPAC funded candidates need to be rejected, period.

mcar

(46,166 posts)
20. So you'd rather an unqualified racist, sexist man
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

over a highly qualified woman who may or may not have received donations from one particular PAC when politicians get loads of money from various PACs?

That's your only criteria?

Hmm.

BTW, I think you mean AIPAC.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,619 posts)
69. I think the repeated non-answers are answers.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 01:38 PM
Yesterday

I'm getting really strong pro-Palestinian protesters yelling "war criminal" vibes.

The ones who still protest Harris and ignore the filth that's actually in charge destroying everything.

I wonder if the fevered passion is motivated by anything other than MAGAt money.

radical noodle

(10,626 posts)
31. There is absolutely no proof
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:31 AM
Yesterday

that she's accepted AIPAC funds. Find a link to something that shows she did.

Response to radical noodle (Reply #31)

Response to tritsofme (Reply #70)

tritsofme

(19,922 posts)
79. AIPAC isn't Israeli money, it's American money.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 03:28 PM
Yesterday

And while one can absolutely disagree with Israel without being anti-Semitic, some folks are doing a piss poor job of it.

Response to tritsofme (Reply #79)

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,074 posts)
89. No one here was going to vote for the candidate who has accepted funds from AIPAC, I don't think.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 05:48 PM
22 hrs ago

thesquanderer

(13,050 posts)
51. Another problem with her age is she'd presumably have only 1 opportunity to run again as an incumbent...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:01 PM
Yesterday

...and then the seat will again be up for grabs with no inherent advantage for us. A much younger candidate could help us hold the seat for much longer.

I don't see him as unqualified. You don't have to be a lawyer to be a representative. And "community organizer" is a positive in my book, regardless of whether it comes with a law degree.

Nor am I prepared to dismiss him as fundamentally sexist or racist based on old reddit posts, that's a purity test, in a world where the number of white men in congress who have never uttered a racist or sexist comment probably approaches zero. So you might as well say you'll never vote for a white man.

Instead I'd consider whose positions are more in sync with mine, who has a better chance of beating Collins, and who has a better chance of keeping the seat in Dem hands long term.

PunkinPi

(5,287 posts)
25. All those who are saying "too old" (which is ageist btw), better keep that same energy for...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:10 AM
Yesterday

Bernie Sanders who filed to run in 2030, will be 88-89 years old, and has done very little in Congress aside from naming post offices for the last 30+ years.

Source: https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-files-reelection-89-years-old-2018118

PunkinPi

(5,287 posts)
55. Yes, runs for president under the Democratic party umbrella, then when he loses...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:12 PM
Yesterday

reverts to being an Independent to write/sell books/give speeches complaining about Democrats.

mr715

(3,716 posts)
56. To his credit, he has issue discipline.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:15 PM
Yesterday

He, like all things in this world, is complicated. His utilization of the Democratic party apparatus is somewhat hypocritical but he is also responsible for forcing the Democratic party to abandon it's comfort blanket of triangulated neoliberalism.

Response to mr715 (Reply #56)

PunkinPi

(5,287 posts)
134. One of the funniest parts to me is that I remember when he included "millionaires and billionaires" in his rallying cry
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 09:20 AM
6 hrs ago

then he became a millionaire and just dropped that part, lol.


betsuni

(29,140 posts)
136. Yup. Was always "millionaires and billionaires" and then millionaires disappeared in 2019.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 10:17 AM
5 hrs ago

It would be nice if Democrats got the same benefit of the doubt and support. Nobody accuses him of corruption because of money, yet this has been the constant everyday accusation of Democrats as if just saying it makes it true.

questionseverything

(11,861 posts)
59. Bernie got community healthcare centers funded as part of the Obamacare package
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:21 PM
Yesterday

He pushed and got the fed audited

He was the reason unemployment checks got a six hundred dollar a week boost during covid

While Bernie doesn’t have a list of legislation that he passed, he does have a long list of amendments added to legislation to make the legislation help regular people

Cha

(319,494 posts)
86. Oh Sanders Filed to run for Senate in 2030, But
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 05:06 PM
22 hrs ago

"Gov Janet Mills is too old"?

Good to know... Mahao, Punkin Pi, and for your enlightening OP.

The Big Irony.. Planter is not even "working class".. he "comes from privilege," which is fine, but why try to say otherwise?

☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜🌈🌊

2naSalit

(103,236 posts)
38. Show me an example...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:57 AM
Yesterday

Of Mills' lack of energy, spark. Are you a Maine voter? If not, mind what's going on in your state, we'll elect our candidate, thank you.

I think platner is another fetterman without the stroke.

DFW

(60,311 posts)
46. I get the distinct impression you have never met her ir talked with her.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:47 AM
Yesterday

Your description seems to come from web sites and TV ads.

I‘ve met her a number of times, talked with her a number of times, including about the tribal issues. Reality is about 180° from your depiction.

JustAnotherGen

(38,074 posts)
62. I can't wrap my head around
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:48 PM
Yesterday

The age concern. I mean Sanders ran in 2024 - is now 83 - and no one is concerned about his age.

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #62)

betsuni

(29,140 posts)
103. No demands to pass the torch. There was practically a whole cottage industry devoted to hounding Nancy Pelosi.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:23 PM
17 hrs ago

And after she did pass the torch the industry just started hounding Jeffries. It never ends!

betsuni

(29,140 posts)
96. Age is "identity politics" distracting from economic class, only bad for the "establishment "
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:43 PM
18 hrs ago

JustAnotherGen

(38,074 posts)
132. And we all know
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 09:09 AM
6 hrs ago

Who the extreme Far Leftists who by and large aren't Democrats, and who actually hate our party for our successes consider the 'establishment'. Psss - hint - it's the base.

JustAnotherGen

(38,074 posts)
131. I'm all over the Threads app
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 09:07 AM
6 hrs ago

Amazing tribe on there! Also - I can just write shit and no one gets too upset about it.

delisen

(7,391 posts)
68. Quite energetic in standing up to Trump
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 01:35 PM
Yesterday

Bored with the ageism thing.

If a person needs someone else to light their political fire, might as well join the MAGA faithful servants.

mcar

(46,166 posts)
12. I will never understand why voters, even on the left,
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:45 AM
Yesterday

would choose an obviously unqualified man over a highly qualified woman.

Mills' age is a red herring, in that these same voters support other elected officials who are in the same age group as her.

sheshe2

(97,843 posts)
95. There was one post somewhere saying...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:47 PM
19 hrs ago

after a successful first term, and after he wins a second that he will indeed be looked at as a candidate for President.

WTF

mcar

(46,166 posts)
98. I saw that and the top of my head almost blew off
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:02 PM
18 hrs ago

I think I know why - won't say it here but I think I know. And it's revolting.

CuriousSavage

(42 posts)
15. Just watch
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:48 AM
Yesterday

This guy has all the signs of turning into the next Fetterman with flashing red lights and effin sirens blaring.

Everyone is allowed to be a little rough around the edges but damn. With this guy, all the characteristics of being a republican and an asshole are just barely under the surface for all to see....
Like Maya Angelou’s famous quote, "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time"

GiqueCee

(4,421 posts)
17. Bernie is one of my Senators...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:50 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:56 AM - Edit history (1)

... and I have supported him for decades, and, on occasion, defended him against ill-informed condemnation on this very site.
However, I have just emailed him with a request for a justification of his apparent endorsement of a decidedly unqualified candidate, in the person of Graham Platner, as opposed to a proven proponent of Democratic values, Maine Governor Janet Mills.
Platner cannot erase his total lack of legislative experience, his racist, bigoted, and misogynistic public comments, nor his tattoo of a Nazi insignia.
It looks to me like someone in his office didn't do their homework. To paraphrase the immortal words of Desi Arnaz, "Bernie, you got some 'splainin' to do!"

Response to GiqueCee (Reply #17)

GiqueCee

(4,421 posts)
53. I'm hoping Bernie will rescind his endorsement...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:07 PM
Yesterday

... once he's been made aware of Platner's multitude of shortcomings. As I said, someone in his office should have done their research before recommending that Bernie endorse him. There may be more to this story, but from what I've seen so far, Platner falls far short of being worthy of Senator Sanders' – or anyone else's – endorsement. I suppose it's possible that there is an ongoing conflict with Governor Mills that prompted this, but Mills has made it clear that she detests Trump just as much as Bernie does, so I don't know what their differences might be, hence my request for clarification.
Updates as events warrant.

MichMan

(17,230 posts)
71. And admit he was wrong?
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 02:00 PM
Yesterday

Why give Sanders a pass by blaming his "office" for the endorsement like he was some bystander in the process.

GiqueCee

(4,421 posts)
83. Because I've done business...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 04:06 PM
23 hrs ago

... with his office in the past, and they've always treated me well, and in one critical instance, went an extra mile to be of assistance to a veteran at my request, and that had a positive outcome that only Bernie's direct intervention could have achieved. I also know that nothing gets in front of Bernie without first undergoing serious scrutiny in his front office.
Like I said, there may well be underlying circumstances not divulged to the public at large, hence my inquiry as to the reasoning behind the endorsement.
I'll let you know what I find out.

betsuni

(29,140 posts)
18. Perfect, absolutely correct. Thank you thank you thank you thank you.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:53 AM
Yesterday

Bookmarking for sanity.

adam_vermont

(33 posts)
24. This is definitely a tough one
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:10 AM
Yesterday

I agree with the comment above -- we need younger candidates. We also need ones with different social circles, connections, ideas than almost-80-year-olds. I get that white men get more attention, but Maine is a very white state. Mills is white, too.

The bottom line is that the electorate is demanding new blood, new ideas, new connections, new patterns, more aggressiveness. Instead, the old-line Senators like Schumer are once again crowing about recruiting someone who is an "obvious" choice, an established character, someone who is almost 80 years old. Just like the president. I don't think that's the mentality required right now, and now it sets up this primary between someone perceived as old and established versus a non-optimal challenge candidate. He's obviously not an ideal candidate given the concerns above -- the last thing we need is another Fetterman. I was duped by him...or maybe he had a stroke and he's not the same person.

BComplex

(9,932 posts)
26. I am also concerned about Platner's campaign, but I also do not think Mills is the
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:16 AM
Yesterday

answer to the times we are in. And MOST CERTAINLY susan collins has got to go. I definitely wish that there was a more historically liberal candidate running against Mills.

But this is on the democratic party leadership in Maine. Right now our country is in total transition in every way. Democratic party leaders in the states themselves are not without brains or abilities, but, IMHO, are still too tied up in chasing money for their candidates, and therefore easily influenced. There are so many political policies that have been shaping our elections for so many years to the detriment of our country that it's no surprise we're in this mess.

The whole picture is going to take time to change. We needed to go all in to get rid of Fetterman...the whole party needed to get behind running a better candidate that supports our views. Out of all the people in Pennsylvania, we couldn't come up with someone? Now we're in danger of doing the same thing in Maine. Can Platner be bought or turned like Fetterman has been?

In this voting environment where Democrats could run a "ham sandwich" and win, surely we could have been a slight bit more proactive. So what or who are we going to point fingers at for getting us into this disorganized mess? We can manage a protest with 10 million people, but historically we can't seem to manage our party.

PunkinPi

(5,287 posts)
36. PA had other options for senate than Fetterman, Conor Lamb or Malcolm Kenyetta.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

Progressives/leftists were the ones pushing Fetterman. Black folks were warning voters about Fetterman and the incident with the jogger during that primary, but were drowned out.

I happened upon this Xitter post (sorry), but it kind of gives an insight into Platner's allegiances (or lack thereof) regarding the Democratic party and imo, should serve as another warning.




Graham Platner mixed up Ron Paul and Rand Paul, then practically glowed while dumping on Democrats.

So why is he running in a Democratic primary instead of as an Independent?

Because this doesn’t read like ideological disagreement. It reads like infiltration.

And bragging that he wants the Epstein files released? That's the bare minimum, not a moral flex.

fujiyamasan

(1,863 posts)
27. Mills, on paper should be the ideal democratic candidate
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:16 AM
Yesterday

She’s won statewide, along with the other listed achievements, but unfortunately there’s nothing she can do about her age.

I can’t get a read on Platner. I can’t tell if he was just ignorant when he got those tattoos. The stuff he said in the past on Reddit is obviously crazy. He’s never served any kind of elected office. I understand the appeal (outside the obvious), but it may be too much of a gamble.

Not an easy choice for Maine democrats. I also don’t know where it came from that Mills received AIPAC contributions. I couldn’t find a legitimate source backing that claim.

questionseverything

(11,861 posts)
54. Mills is very pro Israel , signed legislation that makes it illegal to boycott Israel's investments and
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:11 PM
Yesterday

Vetoed legislation to limit foreign , dark money in elections , like aipac





fujiyamasan

(1,863 posts)
77. That's actually a funny way to think of him
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 02:43 PM
Yesterday

Yeah they both share some similar qualities. Both strike me as kind of shallow with some stupid offensive tattoos on their chest. They were both in the military. Assuming Platner is what he says he is now, they’re just on opposite poles of the ideological spectrum.

He’s definitely not my kind of candidate. But I hate to admit, if he can bring people to vote for a democrat, he may be worth considering.

I have my own choice here in CA for governor. Good luck to democrats in Maine having to decide!

radical noodle

(10,626 posts)
28. Is he even a Democrat or is he pretending to be one?
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:20 AM
Yesterday

He sent me a text message asking for money, even though I don't live anywhere near his state. This was the first sentence in that message: "Nothing pisses me off more than getting a fundraising text from Democrats talking about how they're fighting fascism...Because it's such B.S. We're not idiots. Everyone knows most of them aren't doing jack right now to fight back."

His next paragraph continues in that vein.

My reply to his text: "I'd suggest that you stop bashing Democrats when you text a Democrat (not even in your state) to beg for money. Nothing pisses *me* off more than that."

This guy needs to go in the dust bin.

mr715

(3,716 posts)
34. Alas, it is unlikely he is ending up in the dust bin
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:40 AM
Yesterday

He is dominating the primary. By a lot. A lot. A lot a lot.

Mills is campaigning a tepid, Zoom-centric campaign. She does not seem to really want the job. I suspect that is why is she losing the primary. She had to be begged to get into the race. She is slightly contemptuous of her critics (watch a few of her town halls and you'll see it).

Had Mills a bit more fire in her belly, I suspect she wouldn't be polling as poorly as she is, but she is coasting on the "I'm an elder statesman and I deserve this," which is a recipe for failure. To be clear, Platner is ALSO running with an attitude of "I deserve this" with absolutely no institutional credibility. But his pitch is anti-incumbent and he is running a far better campaign.

Platner's allies are Sen. Warren and Sen. Sanders. Mill's allies are Sen. Schumer and Sen. Gillibrand.

We are seeing the shape of our party.

Cha

(319,494 posts)
87. Planter is Gaslighting Bashing Dems...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 05:28 PM
22 hrs ago

Does he think he can do it alone?

We need all Dems to Win in November.. Not someone "piss" raging about how they're not doing anything.. Which is Clearly Not True.

Cha

(319,494 posts)
88. Excellent reply to "Planter's text"...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 05:34 PM
22 hrs ago

Well said... I wouldn't have been so nice.

Galighitng and Bashing Dems... We need All Dems to win in November... Not some Anti-Dem from Maine Lying about Dems.

Cha

(319,494 posts)
106. I'm So Glad you Didn't.. I had No idea Planter was
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:59 PM
17 hrs ago

sending out Texts like That.

Aloha, rad!

sheshe2

(97,843 posts)
108. Holy SHIT!
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:57 PM
16 hrs ago

Unfugging believable.

Rad, you should post this as an OP! This is how he begs Democrats for money by bashing them.

WTF!

Please, please post this tomorrow.

radical noodle

(10,626 posts)
112. I can post it sometime tomorrow
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:57 AM
15 hrs ago

I have some stuff going on in the morning but should have time tomorrow afternoon. I see you found it online, so I'll check first to make sure you didn't already post an OP about it.

sheshe2

(97,843 posts)
115. I didn't post it, it's yours!
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:26 AM
14 hrs ago

I did check my email to see if I got one then took a look online to see what it was about.

If you think of it will you send me a DM tomorrow after you post. I am going to be out for a bit as well.

TY!

sheshe2

(97,843 posts)
109. I just looked it up on the net.
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:06 AM
15 hrs ago
EXCLUSIVE: Democratic candidate reverses fundraising course in Maine following Washington Reporter story


Graham Platner, a far-left, anti-Israel Democrat running against Sen. Susan Collins (R., Maine), made a complete about-face on his fundraising tactics, following a report from the Washington Reporter about how he bashes anti-”fascist” fundraising texts while sending anti-”fascist” fundraising texts.

Now, however, Platner is singing a different tune. In a new fundraising text message, obtained by the Reporter, Platner tells potential donors that “nothing pisses me off more than getting a fundraising text from Democrats talking about how they’re fighting fascism,” he wrote. “Because it’s such B.S. We’re not idiots. Everyone knows most of them aren’t doing jack right now to fight back.”

The problem for Platner is that he was a Democrat talking about how he was fighting fascism as recently as last week. In text messages asking for donations, Platner wrote that he wanted to raise “one dollar donations to ‘defeat Susan Collins & protect our democracy from fascism.’”

The new version of Platner seems to have no version for the Platner of last week. “All Democratic leadership can do is send us another fundraising text?” he now wrote.

Platner’s campaign did not respond to a request for comment about the reason for the flip-flop.




https://washingtonreporter.news/exclusive-democratic-candidate-reverses-fundraising-course-in-maine-following-washington-reporter-story/

Cha

(319,494 posts)
114. Wow,she... Excellent Find! I hope you
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:10 AM
14 hrs ago

or rad Post it tomorrow...

As you say .. asking Dems to give him money while Bashing Dems.

ETA~ Wonder whose idea thta was to Switch to Bashing Dems?

betsuni

(29,140 posts)
117. Message is: I hate the Democratic Party as much as you do, vote for me! Solidarity, send money!
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:47 AM
14 hrs ago

leftstreet

(41,048 posts)
32. Why does the writer put "progressive" in quotes?
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:33 AM
Yesterday

Don't Sanders and Heinrich and the media personalities mentioned openly claim to be progressive?

What a snarky little "mean girl" type article

PunkinPi

(5,287 posts)
37. See post #8 for his list of endorsers, most of which consider themselves progressive.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:54 AM
Yesterday

But there is nothing "progressive" about any of this (from the OP)...

Her opponent is a former Marine, mercenary, and bartender with no political experience, and judging from the way he speaks, a similar vacuity of knowledge. He has admitted to making a series of racist, homophobic, and misogynistic remarks, even blaming rape victims, if they were drunk, for their own trauma, not as a rebellious teenager, but merely five years ago. On his chest, he has a tattoo of a “Totenkopf”—a “death skull” that became prominent in Nazi iconography. SS guards had the same skull on their uniforms. He claims that he was unaware of the history or meaning of the symbol when he got the tattoo. He was drunk, which, according to his moral philosophy, absolves him of blame, unlike women who are raped, and in his words, “should take responsibility for getting so f**ked up that they wind up having sex with someone they don’t mean to.”His campaign manager has resigned, claiming that the candidate was aware of the tattoo’s significance.


Not to mention of the recent use (within the last couple of weeks) of the r-word slur.

luv2fly

(2,684 posts)
94. Perhaps for the same reason many moderates claim to be "progressive"...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:42 PM
19 hrs ago

... until it suits them to rip on progressives, then they hide from the label. Happens with some frequency, they appear shameless.

SamuelAdams

(81 posts)
35. Can't rec this enough.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 10:41 AM
Yesterday

Certain people seem more interested in finding their version of Trump than doing the boring work of helping people.

2naSalit

(103,236 posts)
41. No matter what...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:05 AM
Yesterday

Negative shit I hear about Mills, she's getting my vote. I've seen her in action and been watching her for some time.


That mercenary guy is a novice at most things, other than being a misogynist dickhead, and I don't think he can even visualize what it means to represent me in the Senate. His learning curve is vertical and that's not going to help us when, once again, we need seasoned legislators in Congress.

Frankly, I don't give a fuck how old she is, she's got the right stuff to do what needs to be done at this time. Like Nancy Pelosi, I'll vote for her because she's the real deal.

2naSalit

(103,236 posts)
58. Just went through...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:18 PM
Yesterday

This same shit in Montana and they are regretting that they voted in the pseudo-macho guy with 'military' background who is a young fuckhead. They overlooked his failings and elected him anyway. Now they are finding out he wants to sell off the Public Lands and that's not going over well for anyone there.

I moved so I wouldn't suffer the decline that guy will help bring about.

Not voting for the wannabe.

PunkinPi

(5,287 posts)
45. I hope you and other Mainers do decide that Gov. Mills is the person you want to represent your state.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:37 AM
Yesterday

And I agree, Platner is a novice, with no record other than being a phony (wealthy elite vs. his everyman persona they are trying to create) and a jerk (in a multitude of ways). Being a senator should not be an entry-level position into politics.

Gov. Mills has a proven record, won statewide, and stood up to tsf and won, she seems like a fighter to me.

And if he becomes the nominee, the gop/Collins is going to have a field day with him (they've already started).

Best of luck in the primary!

2naSalit

(103,236 posts)
64. Last month...
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:57 PM
Yesterday

Mills was interviewed on MSNOW, a two segment interview with no friendly questions and she won me over again. One point she made when confronted about her age was that she has a statewide election record of success and every contender who has gone against collins was untested and they LOST.

Everyone here knows who Mills is and what she has done for the state, platner is just running on his looks and they aren't all that good.

BannonsLiver

(20,700 posts)
43. Candidates can't make voters fall in love with them.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:34 AM
Yesterday

Neither can authors of opinion pieces. It’s just like human relationships. That’s Mills’ biggest problem. The appeal is apparently selective. I don’t know how she breaks out of that mold.

themaguffin

(5,260 posts)
47. It's like he's telling Fetterman to hold his beer and voters are like "ok cool." This is nuts.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 11:52 AM
Yesterday

surfered

(13,741 posts)
52. I know little about Maine, other than it's a beautiful place to visit, but is sexism and ageism at play there?
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 12:05 PM
Yesterday

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,591 posts)
82. Great article
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 03:49 PM
Yesterday

This paragraph from the article cited in the OP hit home with me

It isn’t hyperbolic to say that Platner, unlike Mills, offers nothing to voters. He is little more than an image—a central casting call in a forgettable blue-collar soap opera. Even his backstory, as reported in the New Yorker, confirms the triumph of spectacle over substance. Labor and progressive advocacy organizations searched for a candidate to run in the Senate race. Instead of finding someone with impressive experience and a reputable background, they reacted to a video featuring Platner that warned against a commercial salmon farm. “They decided that he was exactly what they were looking for,” the New Yorker details, “a working-class guy with a military background.”

Emile

(42,575 posts)
90. Americans' contempt for elites is why he's winning
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:08 PM
21 hrs ago

Maine is rebelling against politicians who cater to the whims of billionaire donors.

yorkster

(3,878 posts)
110. Sorry but watching Platner's rise is like
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 12:33 AM
15 hrs ago

watching A Face in the Crowd, except that Lonesome says all the bad stuff out loud and at the beginning, and he still gets to be famous and maybe elected.

Yes, a person can change. But he wrote and said offensive things across such a wide range of issues...and it's the Senate, a six year term. Let him run for state rep. or state senate.

OK, loose the hounds if you must. Rant over.


Aepps22

(391 posts)
116. Extremely Proud of this Community
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:42 AM
14 hrs ago

So glad that the DU community sees the flaws in this guy’s candidacy. “Polls” aren’t votes and hypothetical matchups aren’t votes. I’m tired of the lack of vetting because this guy can’t be the best Maine has but who knows.

bucolic_frolic

(55,400 posts)
126. Fetterman II: it has a 'blood and soil for young progressives' tint to it
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 07:52 AM
8 hrs ago

We really don't need more of this nonsense in our Senate lineup.

WSHazel

(784 posts)
135. I like Mills and don't like Platner
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 10:15 AM
5 hrs ago

Schumer talked Mills into running, and it shows. The smart move would have been to get a more motivated establishment candidate rather than have Mills run a race it looks like she doesn't want to win.

Platner gives off big Fetterman vibes, but he is going to be the nominee and he is better than Collins.

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