David Hogg celebrated Mary Peltola's 2024 loss but he wants to give Marjorie Taylor Greene 'a chance'.

[RandySF]

Link to tweet

?s=20



CNN NewsNight with Abby Phillip
@CNN_NewsNight
David Hogg: I'm willing to give Marjorie Taylor Greene a chance
@davidhogg111

[mr715]

1. This is why Mr. Hogg isn't ready to be a steward of the national party.

TOO young. To easily moved by shifting alliances without the wisdom that comes from seeing how long it takes those alliances to form.

[CousinIT]

2. Ugh. NOPE. n/t

[Ilikepurple]

3. I'm not understanding the reaction. "Give her a small chance to have that conversation"

About why MTG has changed her opinions about Trump and whether they are authentic or opportunistic? It sounds reasonable to me. Both the tweet and the original post give the impression that he’s willing to ally with her politically. It seems disingenuous

[RandySF]

4. He's giving the benefit of a doubt to a Republican that he wouldn't give to a Democrat.

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[Ilikepurple]

24. Are you saying that he wouldn't have given Mary Peltola a chance to explain her positions,

Especially if they changed to be more inline with his? Surely, there are stronger grounds for criticism of Hogg than that he is willing to talk to MTG to try to find out what is driving her recent change of opinion?

[Pisces]

7. I don't understand the hate for this young guy either. Democrats can be just as bad as Repukes. If you don't agree with

every Democrat and you speak your mind your a traitor??? Insanity. I hope he keeps speaking his mind, we don’t need cookie cutter robots in office!!
Maybe Kamala could have won had she gone her own way and spoken out about how she really felt!!
Joe Biden, Gaza, what she would have done differently!!!

[sheshe2]

29. Ah, sweetie, you are back again!

[Ilikepurple]

39. I'm still trying to figure out from her reply who is clutching whose pearls.

I’m interested to see where this goes after her first three posts today.

[sheshe2]

43. She won't be here that long.

Oops, gone.

[Ilikepurple]

54. I thought it might be my first encounter with someone whose posts and user ID gets routinely and quickly removed.

Thanks sheshe2. I had a feeling, but I wanted to give the person the benefit of the doubt as her first three posts weren’t necessarily inflammatory, but seemed to be focused on being contrarian at the very least.

[sheshe2]

56. If you've served any terms in MIRT, you really get to know her tells.

[area51]

5. The same woman (MTG) who bullied/threatened him?

[Pisces]

6. If his immaturity gives him the ability to be authentic to himself then I say more of this!! He said he would give her

a chance to explain herself. He would have a discussion with her. He’s not voting for her or championing her!

I don’t understand the hate for this young man who is a democrat and understands what young men are feeling out there!! I give him a lot of room to make mistakes and try things. Older politicians, no.

[Celerity]

8. Hogg was a survivor of the Parkland school mass murder shooting. He criticised Peltola for being a big pro gunner.

In her 2024 campaign, Peltola was endorsed by the National Rifle Association (NRA), making her the only Democratic candidate for Congress endorsed by that group during that election cycle.

[RandySF]

11. .

[Celerity]

14. Do you have a link to Hogg celebrating Peltola's defeat? TIA

[RandySF]

16. .

Link to tweet

?s=20

David Hogg 🟧
@davidhogg111
Turns out being weak on gun control doesn’t save you. Peltola was awful on gun control. Good riddance.
Quote

Yashar Ali 🐘
@yashar
·
Nov 16, 2024
NEWS

Republicans have flipped Alaska’s seat in the House of Representatives.

Decision Desk HQ is projecting that Republican Nick Begich will win over

[Celerity]

19. That is not a celebration. It is a critique. nt

[Nixie]

61. "Good riddance". Sounds like a type of celebration. It sounds

like someone announcing they are glad to be rid of someone. It’s a very common dismissive comment.

[Arthur_Frain]

25. Yeah

Because Nick is so much better on the issue than Mary.

David shouldn’t even have weighed in on our races, he doesn’t live here, he has never been here to the best of my knowledge, and if he was it was for a publicity stunt.

Anyone thinking Alaskans are going to be for any gun control at all simply fails to understand the issues up here. It pisses me off that she lost because she was such a good fit for us, and she did a good job for the short time she was there. Plus she beat Palin, so that’s a plus.

It’s a shame. That’s all.

[adam_vermont]

33. You're right. This post is just a shameful pot-stirrer without the poster even clarifying or stating an opinion.

She's trying to win in Alaska. There is a different perspective in Alaska about guns. I grew up in Alaska, and I hunted deer for meat. We could usually shoot 6 deer a year from August 1 to December 31. Harvesting.

It's OK for people to have differences of opinion. Hogg was traumatized by his experience, so he doesn't think she should be a member of the NRA. But if that gets her elected with another Democrat in a red state, who cares?

[Jose Garcia]

50. Was the Republican who defeated Peltoa any better on gun control?

And is it worth having a Republican in that seat until 2031?

[QueerDuck]

9. Oh good grief! It baffles me why anyone wants this jackass to be our party's standard-bearer.

He doesn't think before he speaks. He emotional. He acts impulsively. He wants what he wants and he wants it NOW but isn't willing to think strategically or to accept cooperative incremental progress. He cannot accept compromise or give and take and finding common ground EVEN WHEN it puts us closer to our ultimate goals. He sees enemies in friends and alienates them... then he sees friends in sworn enemies and welcomes them with open arms.

No. Just no. We can do better. We deserve better.

[QueerDuck]

15. I take your point, but his attacks on Democrats put him in that category, IMHO. Further...

... when others call him out on his ageist remarks, he doubles down. No, that's not naive... just just being an ass... and doing it intentionally. And a mean-spirited one as well. I have no use for him. Others were giving him a free pass because of his age or because of the trauma he experienced... but he hasn't aged out of it, he's never apologized. I do not think he has demeanor for anything other than being an angry agitator who lashes out without thinking, treating friends as enemies. He doesn't strengthen us, he divides us. And that weakens us. I wish he'd go away and I wish the people would stop providing oxygen to the little fires he sets. (Myself included... that's all I have to say about him.)

[betsuni]

65. He'll leave the Democratic Party soon enough, I'd bet on it.

[QueerDuck]

66. That seems very likely. It's not as though we haven't seen it before...

...some, like Nina Turner, eventually arrive at the conclusion that the harm they want to do to (and the revenge they want to extract upon) the Democratic party, can be more easily accomplished from the outside, where they won't need to carefully moderate their words. She'd have never made her "bowl of shit" comment about Biden if she had an iota of loyalty or respect for the Democratic party. So, yes... you're correct... that's a bed you'd win. It's a path that we've seen others take.

[QueerDuck]

35. That's a lot of creative projection, but I'll stick to the actual subject: David Hogg.

Any attempt to generalize my specific critique of one individual's strategic failings... and trying to falsely insinuate that I'm actually making a broad indictment of an entire wing of the party is a reach.

In reality, my comment was about a lack of pragmatism, not a Rorschach test for anyone's feelings about progressivism. The track record in question is clear. Sorry, I have no interest in shadowboxing with "talking points" I never actually used.

When I'm critiquing a specific person’s public behavior and strategy... others may think it's advantageous to defend him by trying to turn-the-tables and start critiquing (attacking) a fictional version of ME that's been invented simply to make a point. In my opinion, such things indicate a position of weakness.

If anyone wants to defend or justify Hogg's impulsiveness as a political asset, they are free to do so. But I won't waste time defending a straw man argument I never made.

My issue is not with "progressives" ... instead, it's with poor strategy and counterproductive optics, regardless of who is behind them. I maintain that a standard-bearer should be someone who's strategic rather than impulsive... and who unites rather than divides. If that feels like a personal attack on an entire movement to anyone, well, that says more about their expectations than my politics.

I'm moving on, but feel free to have the last word on the imaginary argument.

Bye. Have a nice day!

[Cirsium]

41. I don't care about Hogg

I can't help noticing you put the word progressives in quotation marks.

My post is not about Hogg, and I don't think yours was either. I am not defending him nor am I "trying to turn-the-tables and start critiquing (attacking) a fictional version of you." He seems to have made that Scott character happy with his remarks. "A lack of pragmatism" is one of the most commonly used talking points against progressives.

I didn't insinuate that you are "actually making a broad indictment of an entire wing of the party" with that post. I am saying that you used the exactly same talking points that are used against all progressives, including frequently by you. There's nothing intrinsically wrong about that. You are certainly welcome to express your opinion. I just think we should be clear about where we stand and what we're actually saying.

As I pointed out, all progressives frequently get these talking points directed at them: "They don't think before they speak. They are emotional. They act impulsively. They want what they want and they want it NOW but aren't willing to think strategically or to accept cooperative incremental progress. They cannot accept compromise or give and take and finding common ground EVEN WHEN it puts us closer to our ultimate goals. They see enemies in friends and alienate them... then they see friends in sworn enemies and welcome them with open arms."

[adam_vermont]

36. yes, like a "progressive" or someone who is "young" ! Heaven forbid they become passionate Democrats

[Keepthesoulalive]

31. You are correct

I fear younger democrats are losing their moral compass. If I don’t get everything I want I will punish the party by withholding my vote, the only thing that matters is economics whatever that means. I don’t see a vision to make our country better for everyone only what some influencer says I should do. I’m looking at the Rogan and Charlie Kirk lovers.

[adam_vermont]

34. In other words, he has qualities characteristic of young, inexperienced people.

Good grief, we need them in the party desperately. Get over yourself and your purity tests. The world's about to blow up and you want to "just no" a young popular passionate Democrat who wants to lead because you don't like his manners.

Grow up.

[QueerDuck]

42. It is interesting that a critique of political strategy is being reframed as an issue of "manners" or age.

It isn't about age... it's about effectiveness. Wanting a standard-bearer who prioritizes strategic coalition-building over impulsive optics isn't a "purity test"... it's a desire for a winning methodology.

That said, when a discussion devolves into my being told to "get over" myself or "grow up" directives, it has clearly hit a dead end.

I've stated my peace on the importance of disciplined leadership.

Enjoy the thread. Bye!

[Cha]

48. Boom.

[Cirsium]

49. The opposite

I find it interesting that a disagreement about policy is so often reframed as a critique of strategy.

"Don't get me wrong, I agree with you BUT (it's too soon, it isn't practical, it will cost us elections, you're being a purist, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good...)"

[Cha]

47. Maybe you should take your own advice? nt

[Initech]

10. Fucking what???

Didn't Marge become famous by following him with a video camera and accusing him of being a "crisis actor"? WTF!

[Bengus81]

22. Yepper...and if I remember right she wasn't in Congress yet. She just wanted

to make her bones. I hope no one takes this MTG Trump bashing seriously. Remember when Eloon was trash talking Trump last summer?

Give her some time off,she'll be back to her usual Liberal,commie, Marxists,tree hugging, pinko Democrats screed soon enough.

[adam_vermont]

37. That's impressive coalition building. He's willing to ally with MTG to try to save us from Trump.

Even after her bad manners. You should take a political lesson from Hogg, who doesn't let calcified old grudges blind him from the current dire situation.

[Initech]

57. Well, you know the old saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. Give her a chance to do what?

I’m willing to give her a chance to be a pain in Trump’s ass, but that’s about it.

[Celerity]

17. He said a small chance, and yes, it was about her now being anti-Trump

[PunkinPi]

20. He's not the only one either...

Rep Ilhan Omar said dems should "embrace" MTG...

--
Thanks, but no.

[Bengus81]

23. Gosh...wonder why we lose elections?

[Ilikepurple]

52. The following is the actual quote when asked about MTG and Candace Owens's defections.

“The fact that they have gotten off the sycophant train and are saying, ‘We trusted the wrong person, we are sorry for that, and we need all of you to wake up to the fact that you also trusted the wrong person,’ I think is an important thing for us to put our arms around,”

I can’t find the remainder or the setup in a short time, but the reader here can decide whether “put our arms around” means embrace supporting anything other than their rebuke of Trump as president.

[Trueblue Texan]

27. OMG!

After the raving lunatic chased him down the street for his stand on gun violence. Yeah...he needs to learn a lot.

[adam_vermont]

38. You need to learn a lot.

Like, you could learn not to keep ahold of grudges if it brings us closer to getting rid of Trump. Take a look at Hogg, and then do some looking at yourself. He is doing the wise and mature thing. You are typing into your computer that he is crazy because he can ally with someone on something that is critical to the survival of the world right now.

[Skittles]

51. naw

that gal MTG is absolutely VILE, we need to MOVE ON from that garbage - I don't give a fuck HOW much she claims to have "changed" - NOPE

[Ilikepurple]

53. If she represents a segment of her party moving away from Trump, it might be useful to know why.

What motivates voters towards and away from one’s opponents can be useful. If she maintains a noticeable public presence, I’m not sure why we’d ignore her. I’m not saying her opinions need to be given deference, but it might help if their motivation is better understood.

[Skittles]

55. you know what? if they move away from Trump, good for them

but they can STILL all go fuck themselves - they utterly DISGRACED America

we don't need to put up with that POS MTG - not now, NOT EVER

[Trueblue Texan]

59. Figure it out...

Just because she and those like her are moving away from TSF doesn't mean they are moving toward decency and policies that strengthen democracy. She's just pissed at TSF because she didn't get her way and she can discern he is committing political suicide. Hogg is naive if he thinks we should give those former sycophants a chance. We need to peel them away from TSF's support and build a coalition of people who have the same values at we do, not ones who were perfectly willing to strip people of their rights one minute and abandon the president the next when he doesn't do it their way. Do you think for one second MTG is on board with Hogg's agenda of responsible gun ownership? Come on. If you think that, you and Hogg both need to wade deeper into the water where you will soon figure out you're about to get pulled under.

[Trueblue Texan]

58. Experience, bud. Take your own medicine. nt

[ananda]

30. David Hogg has been dead to me for awhile.

He was OK for awhile, but then he really
lost his way.

[Kid Berwyn]

40. She may be a NAZI, but Trump threatened to kill her and her kids.

So, that may be why David Hogg, who survived a school shooting and getting shit on by so many of his fellow Democrats, wants to talk to her about.

[JI7]

45. Trump said horrible things about Pelosi alsoi

but that didn't seem th o make him sympathetic to her in any way.

[Kid Berwyn]

62. "All roads seem to lead to Putin with the president."

Yeah, I remember.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218359877

So what?

[Trueblue Texan]

60. TSF has threatened many people.

Like most Rs MTG wasn't bothered by those threats until she became a target. That's not someone I want in my corner.

[Kid Berwyn]

63. I don't either, but she has friends we should convert.

Her insight -- combined with David Hogg's youthful energy, genuine charisma and profound intelligence -- might help us out-register the GOP for new voters. Who knows? He might even attract some news coverage.

[JI7]

44. He grew up in a Republican home

He is always talking about giving Republicans chances and working with them and citing polls showing many Republicans support certain gun control measures.

Just because they might support it doesn't mean they vote on it. They still easily vote Republican becsuse things like low taxes and regulations or hatred of lgbt etc is more important to them .

[betsuni]

67. Trying to work with Republicans usually results in angry cries of CAVE!

[Cha]

46. TY.. Why was Hogg "celebrating Mary Peltola's loss?!

She was an excellent Rep for Alaska.

[betsuni]

64. The rule that Democrats should never get the benefit of the doubt because it's assumed they have bad motivations.

A superstitious belief that only loud constant harsh accusations and threats will "push/pull Democrats to the Left" and prevent them from turning into werewolves.