Just want to say, i never dreamed how bad our country could become. I've NEVER thought

[bluestarone]

Our democracy could be swallowed by our so called defenders like it has. Pretty fucking scary when ONE person is protected by our COMPLETE judicial system, military system, congressional system. I never ever thought our DOJ had power like completely undoing all charges against the Jan 6 MONSTERS. This fucker had judges perfectly in the right places to do what they are doing. I now see how dangerous a beautiful country can be with the ungodly type fuckers running it.

[pansypoo53219]

1. welcome to rupertstan.

[peppertree]

41. Having grown up in Mi'ssippi, there isn't much in any of this that surprises me

Most of what these pigs from hell are doing now, echoes some conversation or other I had with the right-wing lunatics down there - some 30+ years ago.

(being white and clean-cut, they automatically assume you're on the same page)

The hankering for monstrosities was very much already there; all they needed, was the billionaires to jump on board - and voilà.

[raging moderate]

43. It's not only Mississippi. My husband and I met many bad racists in small Illinois towns.

About fifty years ago, my husband and I finished studying at Southern Illinois University and found jobs in small towns in Southern Illinois. I remember some of the residents mentioning that there had been some Black residents, but they were gone now; they refused to tell why they were gone. Some teachers praised the head Science Teacher who had just retired; they mentioned that he had taught Creation Science. I volunteered on the local Volunteer Ambulance Squad. These people were better than most residents of that town. After a traffic accident (not during my shift), some of these ambulance volunteers spoke sympathetically about an accident that had left a Black family badly injured. They reported sadly that the Black family was obviously terrified when the ambulance crew first arrived, but gradually relaxed. They said the Black family later mentioned that they had been very scared that an ambulance crew in that area might be very mean to them, and thanked the ambulance crew for being nice to them. Oh, and another man expressed the belief that Adolph Hitler had actually been a very fine man, and the Nazis actually were very fine people who just understood the superiority of "white" people.

[peppertree]

44. Absolutely.

There's always been a strong fascist vein in this country; people whose first impulse is always "kill'em all!"

And they see Jabba-the-Trump as the machine gun-wielding Rambo willing to do it (so to speak).

[bluestarone]

45. Yes, it's really unbelievable that we still have Americans

Praising Hitler and all NAZI'S. Just makes me sick!

[BaronChocula]

50. Reminds me of this TV movie from 1981

I didn't watch it, but I knew what it was about. It put Skokie on the map for me. It always stood as a symbol of all the corners klanish sympathies lie in this country for me.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083090/

And what an impressive cast. The thing I knew from back then was that it starred Danny Kaye.

[PatSeg]

2. Same here

I knew things could get worse, but I never thought it could get this bad, this fast.

[Eko]

3. I hear ya but I am expecting it to get worse.

Sadly.
After he loses the midterms he will get way crazy. If we win the house and senate it will be a non-stop battle between the legislature and dump and unfortunately dump can take immediate action while the house and senate are slower and rely on the courts to enforce them. I think it will take about a year or so to impeach him finally.
Just my 2 cents.

[bluestarone]

7. 100% agree. From what i've witnessed so far. My thinking?

They will NOT listen to any congressional law passed. everything will go to the courts. they will be unable to keep up and we will have two years of HELL, or maybe even something worse. Look, this Supreme court could rule NOW on that citizenship, but they give TSF a victory for 4 months just STALLING. TSF will push until something breaks and then Martial law and who knows what after that point is reached.

[Eko]

12. Cant argue with any of that.

I do think enough republicans will come around to impeachment after a year or so but that could just be me being wistful of actual republicans that were patriots in the past. Of course then we will have couch boy but maybe dumps impeachment will keep him in line.

[bluestarone]

15. I wish i can believe that. They have gone way past anything i thought they would do. My thoughts are

They have made their move and they will push to a civil war! Unless TSF DIES. then ,i'm thinking RETHUGS will change. It's like they will then think, hell he was no GOD, like they thought he was.

[Captain Zero]

30. If impeachment really looms, he will resign, then

Vance will become President and PARDON HIM OF EVERYTHING.

JUST like Ford did for Nixon.
Hate to break it to you.

Then. He still will not shut up.

[eppur_se_muova]

35. Then off to NY State prison. POTUS cannot pardon state crimes, including those for which he has already been convicted.

He's still looking at sentencing for thirty-four felony convictions.

He will have visiting hours and a limited amount of phone time every week. I doubt he will be permitted any kind of personal electronic devices, much less telecom devices. Convicts pay for their phone usage at exorbitant rates. How many real reporters will be interested in interviewing him under those conditions ? He'll be old and irrelevant as any has-been can be. I'm looking forward to seeing him without his poofed-up hair and Rustoleum spray coating -- to say nothing of his magic lifts.

[B.See]

4. I knew how bad they'd TRY to make it, and

planning on making it still.

But like Kamala said, we DIDN'T expect the spineless, gutless, grovelling, weasle-like CAPITULATION.

[malaise]

5. The money men

bought the system - thank the corrupt Supreme Court, Citizens United and greedy politicians.

[Hope I am clear here]

33. Would it make a difference

If there were term limits, no posh healthcare (just the same as the American citizens buy), no lobbyists, immediate expulsion for insider trading, no federal government employment after retirement for 5 years, no security detail after retirement, no paycheck during government shutdowns.. the list could go on and on. Our Founding Fathers served in the legislature for a short period and then went home to live with the laws that they passed, same as everyone else!

[malaise]

34. Nice dreams

Welcome to DU 😀

[LetMyPeopleVote]

47. Welcome to DU

[TBF]

6. I knew how bad they would be to women -

and what they really want to do with Christian Nationalism. I read many portions of Project 2025 - they didn't hide it. And I live in Texas, where these folks have taken over local governments and they are snakes. They not only want to live their lives in line with what they think the bible says, but they do want to force it on everyone else as well. They are white supremacists and they are misogynist. That's just the start of it. If they have their way we will be back to white male land-owning people voting ONLY.

What I did not expect is that they would try to foist it on the rest of the world so quickly. That part has surprised me.

[bluestarone]

9. Agree 100% Want to add here

I really do feel so sorry for all Democrats that have to live in RED districts. Wish i could help you guys.

[Skittles]

8. I could easily envision a GOP POS going off the rails

I honestly never thought the entire GOP would be backing them, WTF, do they care about America at ALL???

[bluestarone]

11. Yes they have made their final decision take over our country. They will not stop, i'm afraid.

Not sure where this will end after our November win.

[blubunyip]

10. How it is

that this guy (with enablers) can wreak so much havoc in such a short time and walk away unscathed...this is the lesson we who lived under the delusion of American democracy are facing. Will somebody come and liberate us?

[bluestarone]

14. Well, he's got control of everything. Think about it. For example a millionaire goes to a grocery store or car dealer

There is NOTHING he can't buy. He has full control!! NOBODY can stop him.

[IronLionZion]

13. Many of thought we had some checks and balances against this sort of thing. No Kings

Dream On

[MustLoveBeagles]

16. My maternal grandfather was a immigrant from Germany who came here in 1953

He told me what hed experienced in Nazi Germany as a boy. He resisted in his own way. He would steal food for the prisoners until he was caught by a neighbor stealing an apple pie cooling on her window rack, and his mother punished him for it. Anyway his experiences frightened me and I asked him if it would happen here. He said he didn't think so because of the lessons learned of Nazi Germany. I don't think he thought that would be used as a template. He'd be brokenhearted I he was alive to see this.

[stuntcat]

17. I'm scared.

I’ve dreaded what’s coming for a real long time, but it’s going down so fast I’m getting more afraid. Like scared, personally.

[PeaceWave]

18. I started worrying once the Patriot Act was passed. That's when the Constitution...

started going out the window. Warrantless searches impacted the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendment Due Process clauses. After that, I knew that the "penumbra" of any right to privacy was the next thing to go, carrying with it Roe and rights gained by the LGBTQ community and, quite frankly, all of us. Trump didn't do all of this. It was actually 25 years in the making.

[HighFired49]

27. Trump is just the useful tool,

and too stupid to know it. I think that the whole plan rested on having someone in power who would blindly do anything he was told if he was promised enough money and fame. Took a while to find someone that stupid.

[PeaceWave]

32. I'm talking about things that pre-dated Trump and that actually set the stage for him...

The Patriot Act put an enormous amount of personal information about the average American in the fingertips of any American President. Apparently, no one bothered to consider how that scenario might play out were the U.S. ever to have the wrong kind of President. Have we seen some very bad things happen under Trump? Absolutely. Could it get worse with the power at his disposal? Something like wholesale roundups of those deemed political enemies? Again, absolutely.

[BidenRocks]

19. America will not be attacked militarily,

but our life will change in ways which will seem like the stone age.
When you lose your partners, you cannot claim to be a leader of anything.

When America falls, I will die.

The worst part is that half the country want this.

The United States of Extortion! We are worse than the Mafia. Worse than any other terrorist group!

The world does not need America to thrive. We aren't even good at winning wars. When's the last one we won without allies and a coalition?

I really hate us!

[bluestarone]

20. Well seems like they have always had that 32% in their corner.

If, after the midterms and we win, will things change? I'm not sure. IF they push us into a corner, will we REVOLT? Anything can happen, if we win in Nov. and they do not allow us to pass laws.

[MLWR]

21. I never believed it would be possible to so completely stack the SCOTUS

with such personalities that would stomp on the Constitution, ignore what it clearly states and support a person who not only was contemptuous of the Constitution, but also of the members of the SCOTUS themselves to the point that the country was totally unrecognizable from the land I grew up in.

[Haggard Celine]

23. That has continued to shock me too.

I grew up with the Buurger Court and then the Rehnquist Court, which was thought to be conservative at the time, but they look like a bunch of liberals compared with the Roberts Court. The corruption is astounding. One thing Trump did was expose a lot of the rot. Except he didn't drain the swamp, he pumped sewage into it.

[vapor2]

22. Never had any of this on my bingo card but I do feel the ousting of Orban is a plus

for the world.

[niyad]

24. I disagree with your last sentence, "ungodly". Frst, of course, is that

this was NOT created as a "godly" nation. Second, these scum are doing what they are doing IN THE NAME OF THEIR GOD (sick and twisted as that deity seems to be).

[OAITW r.2.0]

25. As bad as things are right now......

I think there is a great awakening going on in this Country. After 50 years, a clear majority are going to vote for Democracy in Nov. 2026.

[calimary]

46. I hope you're right, my friend.

But I’ve had hopes up before, only to see them dashed.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

26. I know. And we can't wake up from the nightmare. It's neverending and it's for real.

[EnergizedLib]

28. The optimist in me says we'll wake up someday

The unfortunate reality is that won’t be a moment too soon, yet we still have to wait for that moment.

[sop]

29. And when Democrats take back control of Congress, and find themselves unable to reverse all of his destruction,

low-information American voters, the dumbest fucking people on earth, will again sweep Republicans back into power.

[Arthur_Frain]

31. I graduated from high school right into the Reagan economy.

I have been watching this shit show since then.

After Bill Clinton stood up in the debate and said "it's the economy, stupid", I foolishly thought that maybe the pendulum had begun to permanently swing our way. Nope. Even after Clinton provided a surplus in his last couple of years, the "salt of the earth" in my country decided that the shrub was a better choice than Al, because "he seems like the kind of guy I'd like to sit down and have a beer with". Brilliant system for deciding who to run your government, that.

Two lied-into wars and one global near economic meltdown later (hey, took him a whole 8 years to accomplish that feat) I thought once again, "hey, we elected a black guy, how cool is that?" God I was a naive little shit.

8 years later, when despite the party of "NO"'s obstructionism, I thought things were on an upward swing. Wrong again poopsie. tsf I was a disaster, and that I thought, surely was about rock bottom. Once Biden was dealing with the sack of shit he was left to hold, I hoped he'd be the transitional president he alluded to running for 2020. Groom an obvious choice, hand over the reins, preserve what we'd won. Doh!

I hate those "salt of the earth" fucks, did I mention that? They chose to put him in office a second time, and here we are.

Blame McConnell for the judges, that was his doing specifically. tsf isn't smart enough for that, he's just the recipient of the republican parties' manipulations for all of my adult, politically aware, life.

But make no mistake, tsf deserves the lion's share of the blame for what's gone down. He's a despicable, honorless, useful idiot.

Can we still win? I dunno. I'm not giving up yet though. I'll borrow one of their useless aphorisms.

"Might have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong side"

[summer_in_TX]

36. Many think the Supreme Court and the corrupt DOJ completely insulate Trump from accountability.

But actually we have forgotten a unique factor, the design embedded in our Constitution that gives equal sovereign status to the states.

The Existentialist Republic
CHRISTOPHER ARMITAGE

The Constitutional Architecture of State Opposition to Electoral Autocratic Takeover.

https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/the-constitutional-architecture-of?utm_source=%2Fsearch%2Farmitage&utm_medium=reader2
and
Anyone Who Tells You That We Can't Put Criminals in Jail Until We Win an Election Is Complicit in the Murder of Our Democracy

States can investigate and hold every single criminal in the Trump administration accountable for state laws they have broken in their state. The indictment of the ICE officer who pointed his weapon at two people in their car is a great beginning.

[Initech]

37. Not to mention the foreign influence that Isreal and Russia have.

Fuck Netanyahu and Putin to hell!

[Cosmocat]

38. Honestly, I have seen this coming since my early adult years in the 90s

Not DT specifically, though when he came down the escalator a decade ago I knew and told people he was no joke.

But, the gaslighting we see now was going on then through the "conservative" movement, the thousands of small down Rush Limbaughs and the Hanitty and Becks, along with the politicians like Gingrich and Santorum, and the country already had a pattern of letting up republican fuckwittery, like giving a pass to Reagen about Iran Contra, not to mention buying his bullshit.

I knew we most likely to roll over to their chrisofacist authoritarianism in some form or manner.

Didnt see it being this farcical until the Tea Party - that was the precursor to the meaner and more overt MAGA bullshit.

[OldBaldy1701E]

39. And, some of us have been expecting it for some time.

But, it seems that we as a society won't address the arrogance and selfish greed that created this mess.

So, we are stuck in it.

[bluestarone]

40. One more thought here. I'm of the thinking that our great country has ONE more chance to survive. That would be the

Final days of TSF. If and when his body blends into the soil, i'm wondering if at that time we could somehow get our country back? I'm thinking if we have both houses we got a chance!! It's gonna still be a rough road. Maybe when these fools finally see that TSF is NOT GOD they will blend back into the world they were in BEFORE tsf came along (WAITING for their God AGAIN) Time will tell i guess!!

[Martin68]

48. Exactly what I've been feeling. It's a nightmare. It's depressing. But we've got to hold on and help rebuild.

[Snackshack]

49. Benjamin Franklin was well aware of the precariousness of our government.

After the constitutional convention in 1778 Franklin was asked what kind of government America has, his reply:


Benjamin Franklin's famous quote, "A republic, if you can keep it," reflects his concerns about the ongoing effort required to maintain democracy and self-governance. This statement was made during the Constitutional Convention in 1787, where Franklin was asked about the nature of the government created by the delegates. He emphasized that a republic is not merely a promise but a condition that requires active participation and commitment from the people to ensure its stability and effectiveness. Franklin's perspective underscores the importance of civic engagement and the moral character of citizens in sustaining democratic principles.