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[JBTaurus83]

1. The Episcopals

Always speak out on a multitude of issues. Our media is complicit and usually only amplifies the voices of Christian Nationalists.

[wcmagumba]

2. Interesting, the last church I attended was Good Shepherd Episcopal in Wichita, KS...

I liked the message but haven't returned in some time...Guess I should look at their web site and see what they are saying...hmm...I also like the UU Church but to me they are more of a social assistance organization than a church. I haven't been there for a while either...I'm slipping in my old age...

[JBTaurus83]

4. The Episcopals here in Philly

Have a few different choices in churches. Some are similar to the Catholic Church with their mass and the look of the church others are more modern. All of them though support abortion rights, gay marriage, social justice causes, and have women in the priesthood. I attend one here on occasion. I come from an Irish Catholic background and it just reminds me of a more liberal Catholic Church.

[CurtEastPoint]

3. Didn't that charlatan Fucklin Graham come out with a c***sucking kissup letter of support?

Influential evangelical Rev Franklin Graham dismisses controversy over Trump’s AI Jesus post as ‘a lot to do about nothing’
Son of the late Billy Graham says he ‘didn’t jump to the same conclusion’ as others after bipartisan backlash

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-franklin-graham-jesus-response-b2958593.html

[JBTaurus83]

5. People like him are more like

The cult in The Handmaids Tale than any mainline Christian church.

[TommyT139]

6. Protestant leadership in the US

...is a totally different model than the more intentionally monolithic Roman Catholic Church. In a way, the fact that there is not a single voice is one of the reasons why there was a Protestant Reformation.

And for the mainline denominations I'm aware of, the top leadership roles are not lifelong, but rather are terms. (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a.k.a. the Mormons, are different, but they aren't a mainline Protestant denomination, I'd say.) Terms of even a decade or so in general work against a person becoming "famous" in a way that breaks through into our busy news cycles.

If you look at any footage of the ongoing protests against ICE and the attempted totalitarian takeover, you will see clergy, often wearing their clerical signifiers. Those are the Protestant leaders, speaking as loud as they can, and taking risks of livelihood and liberty that the Pope need not fear, at least as things are now.

Perhaps one of the loudest voices so far, breaking into public awareness, was Bishop Budde, at the National Cathedral service that Trump had to sit through. I am sure she has not stopped working and speaking, even when her role means preaching on different topics. She mostly got "famous" because Trump railed against her and magats joined in with threats. But in general, Americans who don't have a church leader coming across their screens already might not hear anti-war messages as clearly as Roman Catholics are getting. That's just how Protestant churches are structured.

A quick search resulted in these items:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/04/16/archbishop-canterbury-pope-leo-mullally-peace-trump/
https://episcopalnewsservice.org/2026/04/15/church-panelists-argue-us-war-in-iran-fails-tests-of-both-just-war-and-pacifist-traditions/

Oh, and the Episcopal Church is one of the denominations opposing the Trump administration in court on a number of issues related to immigration enforcement. https://episcopalnewsservice.org/2026/02/17/episcopal-presiding-officers-sign-court-brief-opposing-trump-administrations-asylum-policies/

[carpetbagger]

7. The mainline leaders have come out against it

The leadership of the main Methodist, Presbyterian, Congregationalist, Lutheran, and Episcopal denominations have all voiced concerns and opposition to the war. I don't think those statements resonate with their laity in the way that Catholic antiwar sentiment does.

[canetoad]

8. First female Archbishop of Canterbury

Head of the Anglican Church - Sarah Mullally.

The Archbishop of Canterbury joins the Pope in calling for peace

“I stand with my brother in Christ, His Holiness Pope Leo XIV, in his courageous call for a kingdom of peace. As innocent people are killed and displaced, families torn apart, and futures destroyed, the human cost of war is incalculable. It is the calling of every Christian – and of all people of faith and goodwill – to work and pray for peace. We must also urge all those entrusted with political authority to pursue every possible peaceful and just means of resolving conflict.

“As I prepare to visit Rome later this month to meet and pray with Pope Leo, I am mindful of his call to keep our eyes open to the suffering of the world, and our gaze fixed on our crucified and risen Lord Jesus Christ – the image of the invisible God, in whose image and likeness every human being is made. In him, we recognise that we are children of the one Father and members of a single human family. Prayer is not an escape from the world, nor a turning away from injustice; rather, it is a turning towards God in the midst of it, confronting evil, seeking God’s will, and becoming instruments of transformation and peace.

“As Christians, we are called to stand in solidarity with all who suffer, and to respond with compassion and love. Christ’s self-giving life, lived for the sake of others, reminds us that the command to love God with all our heart is inseparable from the call to love our neighbour as ourselves, especially the neighbour who suffers, who is displaced, who lives in fear, and who longs for peace. Time spent with Anglican Primates from across the Communion at my installation in Canterbury was a reminder of how many conflicts continue beyond the front pages of our news, yet demand no less our concern and prayer.

“Our shared humanity has long inspired peacemakers across generations, whether Christian or not. That vision gave rise to the United Nations, founded amidst the ashes of the Second World War. Many decades on, our generation must recommit itself to its Charter, upholding human rights, international law, and the dignity and worth of every human life. As the Pope has recalled, we echo the words of Pope Paul VI on his first visit to the United Nations: “No more war.”

https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/news/archbishop-canterbury-joins-pope-calling-peace

[Tommy Carcetti]

9. "Protestant" is a rather broad term.

And colloquially has meant any Christian who isn’t Catholic, Orthodox, or Mormon.

It could mean anything from UCC and Episcopal, who tend to be rather liberal, to Baptists, evangelicals and Pentecostals, who tend to be conservative.

It’s very much an umbrella term.

[anamnua]

10. He appears to be one

of only a handful of American public figures taking a stand against Trump.

[FSogol]

11. Which Protestant leader beyond some vocal evangelicals

has the reach or the attention that the pope generates? Some speak up, but their words aren't getting amplified. The Lutheran Church I went to as a kid would say a pray for our troops to be safe, but promoted ending wars.