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red dog 1

(33,269 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 04:59 PM Sunday

Trickle-down economics is a cruel joke.

Amazon, which saved B in taxes under Trump's Big Ugly Bill, has cut 30,000 jobs since last October.

Verizon, which saved B, plans to cut 15,000 jobs this year.

Meta, which saved B, plans to lay off 20% or more of its workforce.

Trickle-down economics is a cruel joke.

Robert Reich (@rbreich.bsky.social) 2026-04-19T18:01:08.115430Z
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Trickle-down economics is a cruel joke. (Original Post) red dog 1 Sunday OP
Some of us saw it for what it was when republicans first started waving it around. Biophilic Sunday #1
It was the same thing for the word "deregulation" slightlv Sunday #9
It's ALWAYS been... GiqueCee Sunday #14
It always has been and they know it. The issue is the GOP just hates social programs and walkingman Sunday #2
Yes, the GOP ARE basically racists, slightlv Sunday #10
The gene for pathological selfishness... GiqueCee Sunday #16
I think he would have been one of those psychopaths Farmer-Rick Sunday #24
I agree. GiqueCee Sunday #26
Tech jobs being shed everywhere for AI BlueWaveNeverEnd Sunday #3
Stupid companies Timewas Sunday #4
Don't disagree other than that was not why Henry Ford introduced the $5 a day wage MichMan Sunday #22
When I hear the term "trickle-down" JoseBalow Sunday #5
Beat me to it! BattleRow Sunday #7
It was never intended to work in practice, only for inducement for gullible americans to sign their futures Scalded Nun Sunday #6
You would have thought when even slightlv Sunday #12
All to prop up their precious stock prices....... lastlib Sunday #8
Recommended. H2O Man Sunday #11
'Trickle-down' tax cuts make the rich richer but are of no value to overall economy, study finds LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #13
45 years of this lunacy Just Jerome Sunday #15
Winning !!! Smokster Sunday #17
Kansas went all in on Trickle Down DenaliDemocrat Sunday #18
It always has been and always will be. Just the term, "Trickle Down" Fla Dem Sunday #19
You've got to wonder why we still put up with this bullshit. Initech Sunday #20
because people keep voting for repukes? Skittles 18 hrs ago #30
it's the ultra-rich pissing on us Skittles Sunday #21
An image worth a thousand words: Dave Bowman Sunday #23
After 40+ years of "trickle-down" moondust Sunday #25
Tax cuts for businesses are very inefficient boosts for the economy for a simple reason unblock Sunday #27
Trickle-down economics is where some folk drink the wine and then pee on your head struggle4progress Yesterday #28
Look at it this way. Morbius 22 hrs ago #29
And it just doesn't work for the economy either Johnny2X2X 15 hrs ago #31
It's voodoo economics SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #32
The joke is so old that the term "trickle-down" was coined by Beausoleil 14 hrs ago #33

Biophilic

(6,601 posts)
1. Some of us saw it for what it was when republicans first started waving it around.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 05:13 PM
Sunday

I still don’t understand how some people, other than the wealthy, thought it would work for most of us. I’m so friggin tired of being lied to.

slightlv

(7,848 posts)
9. It was the same thing for the word "deregulation"
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:10 PM
Sunday

The minute they started bandying the word about, most of us thinkers knew it meant higher prices and poorer quality on whatever was being "deregulated." Meanwhile the company behind such deal were sure to be high-rolling winners.

GiqueCee

(4,470 posts)
14. It's ALWAYS been...
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:21 PM
Sunday

... the moneyed few who call the shots.
The French Revolution had a rather harsh, but very effective, way of dealing with the "Let them eat cake" crowd. Granted, Robespierre got a little carried away, and, indeed, wound up getting a pretty close haircut himself, but the message was sent, delivered, and unmistakeable.
Sadly, those in the business world can never quite grasp this very simple point: Take good care of your people, and they will take good care of you. PRO TIP: Working people are NOT livestock.
It is NOT "Good Business" to screw your customer base. Good business is everyone getting a least a little of what they want, and regardless of what John Boehner thought, "compromise" is not a dirty word.

walkingman

(10,983 posts)
2. It always has been and they know it. The issue is the GOP just hates social programs and
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 05:17 PM
Sunday

basically anything that helps working people because they are basically racists and although the majority of these benefits help white people they think it is minorities and just hate it. The wealthier seem to worship business and "bidnessmen".

It is dumb, it is ignorance, and if they knew history and the suffering that the depression generation had to live through they would change their minds....maybe but the lies about US exceptionalism and the white religious community support the blind support of these nasty bastards.

slightlv

(7,848 posts)
10. Yes, the GOP ARE basically racists,
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:12 PM
Sunday

no doubt about that... but... they hate middle class and poor white people, too. Anyone NOT in their social class is to be dismissed as "unnecessary eaters" and anyway to cull the herd is their main goal. And man, are they going full steam ahead these days!

GiqueCee

(4,470 posts)
16. The gene for pathological selfishness...
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:28 PM
Sunday

... runs deep and strong in the so-called "Elite". Sadly, they mistakenly equate an arrogant sense of entitlement with accomplishment. Case in point: Trump would be a greeter in a Walmart had his father not been a slumlord who bequeathed him millions, despite his demonstrated ineptitude.

Farmer-Rick

(12,721 posts)
24. I think he would have been one of those psychopaths
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 08:33 PM
Sunday

Who stalk little girls, attack them in the dead of night and leave their small bodies in the ditch. If his father hadn't handed him a lot of money, I think there are a lot of dead bodies surrounding even this filthy-rich life of his. But if he had been born to a middle class family, his psychopathy would have been more obvious.

I think he would have ended up in prison.

Timewas

(2,755 posts)
4. Stupid companies
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 05:47 PM
Sunday

Economics is or should be "trickle up" people on the low end of the economy need money to buy the prodicts, Iif they cannot then the companies don't have sales... Trickle down is exactly opposite of wht is needed. Henry Ford said and did it best when he made sure his employees earned enough to be able to buy his products. Big corporates didexactly the opposite and actually depleted their market.

MichMan

(17,256 posts)
22. Don't disagree other than that was not why Henry Ford introduced the $5 a day wage
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 07:37 PM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Apr 19, 2026, 08:35 PM - Edit history (3)

Absenteeism was high and it was a way to make sure people came to work. The stipulation of that was making sure people were of the right moral turpitude or they would be fired. They did that by visiting people's living quarters periodically

JoseBalow

(9,604 posts)
5. When I hear the term "trickle-down"
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 05:51 PM
Sunday

I think of the phrase, "don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining."

Scalded Nun

(1,713 posts)
6. It was never intended to work in practice, only for inducement for gullible americans to sign their futures
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:02 PM
Sunday

away while gifting the country's treasures to the wealthy and powerful. That shyster Reagan sold everyone on that, made easier by the vilification and sabotage of Jimmy Carter's presidency by the right.

Many still believe, and we will never get out from underneath it until this snake oil crusade has has been vanquished.

slightlv

(7,848 posts)
12. You would have thought when even
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:13 PM
Sunday

Alan Greenspan stood up in Congress and admitted it doesn't work in full and public view, that more than at least a few of them would have heard and caught on to the scam. But no, even then they were too dense to see it.

lastlib

(28,403 posts)
8. All to prop up their precious stock prices.......
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:09 PM
Sunday

"Trickle-down" is really "SHIT-on"!

A cartoon I saw about "trickle-down": A few birds on the top perch shit on a few more birds on the perch below; they in turn shit on more birds on a perch below them, and those in turn shit on a lot of birds on the bottom perch, comPLETEly covering them in bird shit. Quite an apt description of GOPee policy.

H2O Man

(79,130 posts)
11. Recommended.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:13 PM
Sunday

Somewhere, I still have my copy of the YIPPIE! newspaper (Overthrow/Yipster Times) with the cover artwork's opinion of "trickle-down" bing Reagan urinating on the public.

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,686 posts)
13. 'Trickle-down' tax cuts make the rich richer but are of no value to overall economy, study finds
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 06:20 PM
Sunday

There is no Tax-Cut Fairy and trickle-down economics do not work in the real world. Part of the Inflation Reduction Act is the 15% minimum tax on the rich. If the GOP gets control of the House or the Senate, there will be attempts to use the debt ceiling to try to undo the 15% minimum tax and adopt some trickle-down economics

There is no Tax Cut Fairy and tax cuts for the rich only make the rich richer.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/12/23/tax-cuts-rich-trickle-down/

But, just as many economists predicted, slashing individual, corporate and estate tax rates was mostly a windfall for big corporations and wealthy Americans. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act did not pay for itself, failed to stimulate long-term growth and did not lead to sustained business investments.

According to one of the most comprehensive studies to date on tax cuts for the rich, this should come as no surprise. A London School of Economics report by David Hope and Julian Limberg examined five decades of tax cuts in 18 wealthy nations and found they consistently benefited the wealthy but had no meaningful effect on unemployment or economic growth........

First, the tax cuts succeeded at putting more money in the pockets of the rich. The share of national income flowing to the top 1 percent increased by about 0.8 percentage points. (For comparison, in the United States the bottom 10 percent of earners capture only 1.8 percent of the country’s income).

But they had no effect on economic growth or employment. Though those quantities fluctuated slightly after the major tax cuts that were studied, the effect was statistically indistinguishable from zero. The “rocket fuel” so often promised by supporters of these tax cuts? It fizzles out time and time again.

“In the last decade, especially with the pioneering work of Thomas Piketty and his co-authors, there has been a growing consensus that tax cuts for the rich lead to higher income inequality,” Hope and Limberg said. Piketty, a French economist, wrote “Capital in the Twenty-First Century,” a book on the growth of inequality in rich nations......

Given the historically low tax burdens on the wealthy in the United States, their ability to pay for higher taxes has probably never been better.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,793 posts)
18. Kansas went all in on Trickle Down
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 07:32 PM
Sunday

It was a disaster. Keynesian economics got us out of the Great Depression and the Great Recession. Why don’t we hammer that point home?

Fla Dem

(27,688 posts)
19. It always has been and always will be. Just the term, "Trickle Down"
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 07:33 PM
Sunday

sends the message there really isn't any serious intention to share wealth with the middle and lower income Americans.

Initech

(108,958 posts)
20. You've got to wonder why we still put up with this bullshit.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 07:34 PM
Sunday

Fuck the billionaires, fuck all of them!

moondust

(21,310 posts)
25. After 40+ years of "trickle-down"
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 10:19 PM
Sunday

and vastly increasing inequality, U.S. voters apparently doubled down again and elected the "trickle-down" party to take over all three branches of the federal government. Does not bode well for the vast majority.

unblock

(56,230 posts)
27. Tax cuts for businesses are very inefficient boosts for the economy for a simple reason
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 11:59 PM
Sunday

Businesses base their decisions on whether or not they are profitable. Changes in tax rates affect how much profit they keep, but it does not generally change whether or not a business decision is profitable.

Losing deals still don't get done, and winning deals were going to get done anyway. It just makes them happier to do so, and this translates into political contributions for republicans, which amount to kickbacks. In other words, it's not so much a boon to the economy as it is a boon to a system of political corruption.

Now I'm simplifying a bit, because some marginally losing decisions may become marginally profitable on a risk-adjusted basis and the risk-distorting effects of bankruptcy laws could change some decisions. So it's not a complete waste in terms of stimulating the economy, just very inefficient.

Giving money to poor people working brilliantly because they will spend the extra money in the economy, which by the way, businesses and rich people benefit from. Trickle *up* actually works.

Giving money to businesses doesn't incentivize anything really, they just have more profits to dividend out or do stock buybacks with. So it just gives more money to rich people who often invest or spend overseas. Or on politicians.





struggle4progress

(126,446 posts)
28. Trickle-down economics is where some folk drink the wine and then pee on your head
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 12:12 AM
Yesterday

and it trickles down over you

Morbius

(1,031 posts)
29. Look at it this way.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 01:23 AM
22 hrs ago

If you put money in the hands of a rich man, he's going to put it in his pocket - because he can. If you put money in the hands of a common man, he's going to spend it - because he has to. And when he does spend it, who's going to be there to take it? The rich man! That's how he got rich in the first place.

Those of us who pay attention noticed a long time ago that milk and honey doesn't trickle down the chins of the high and mighty.

Johnny2X2X

(24,320 posts)
31. And it just doesn't work for the economy either
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 08:54 AM
15 hrs ago

The economy does better when regular people have enough money to meet their needs and thus are spending.

That's the 50 year battle and that's why the economy does so much better under Democrats. Put money in working people's pockets and they will move the economy forward. Starve workers in favor of massive tax breaks for the wealthy and the economy falters.

People never heard about it, but joe Biden did more for working people than any president in my lifetime and I was born in the early 70s. Real wages were rising, the bottom 20% were seeing gains not seen since just after WWII. The bottom 50% were seeing bigger gains than the top 10%. The economy was becoming more fair and regular people were getting ahead. All of that despite inflation.

Beausoleil

(3,018 posts)
33. The joke is so old that the term "trickle-down" was coined by
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 09:58 AM
14 hrs ago

Will Rogers.

Some attentive folks recognized "supply-side" economics as just a fancy name for trickle-down, back in the 80's.

Still the same scam as back in Hoover's days.

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