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Eko

(10,031 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 09:02 PM Sunday

AIPAC is tonedeaf. Says a us Rep wanting the money going to war to instead help Americans is not team America.



Ro Khanna
AIPAC says I’m not Team America. Why? Because I want to spend the $400b to make college & trade schools free and childcare $10 day. Not on the Trump/Netanyahu alliance for an illegal, immoral war in Iran.

AIPAC
No, @RoKhanna
, you are Team Ro.

Team America upholds our commitments, stands with allies and helps allies stop terrorists from killing civilians.

Aid to Israel isn’t a handout. It’s a strategic investment that yields a huge return for America’s interests, security, and economy.
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AIPAC is tonedeaf. Says a us Rep wanting the money going to war to instead help Americans is not team America. (Original Post) Eko Sunday OP
Accepting funding from AIPAC or its front organizations Rob H. Sunday #1
Also, Israel has been BY FAR the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid (military + economic) since WWII. Celerity 15 hrs ago #21
That Strategic Investment thing displacedvermoter Sunday #2
Blaming AIPAC is stupid but I know why people do it JI7 Sunday #3
I dont see where I or anyone on here blamed AIPAC. All I said is they they were tonedeaf. Eko Sunday #4
How much do we give Saudi Arabia for arms? Or do you mean we sell them as opposed to giving to Israel? Eko Sunday #5
We sell to Israel also . Much of itvis just funding our defense industry JI7 Sunday #7
That one is a bit interesting diving in. Eko Sunday #8
We do the same with UAE, Saudi Arabia and many others JI7 23 hrs ago #10
Bit of a reach, telling someone what they don't seem to care about Attilatheblond 23 hrs ago #11
When people only have a problem with Israel JI7 23 hrs ago #12
I only have a problem with Isreal? Eko 23 hrs ago #15
how much do we give Saudi Arabia? Eko 23 hrs ago #14
"Whataboutism" is pretty much the only defense they have. So it's what you're gonna get. 3_Limes 17 hrs ago #18
Sadly true and horrifyingly predictable Attilatheblond 14 hrs ago #22
DURec leftstreet Sunday #6
Team America? progressoid Sunday #9
Is there some law that says we can't pass bills to fund schools and childcare JI7 23 hrs ago #13
Why? Eko 23 hrs ago #16
A purity test to attack Democrats as corrupt, immoral and therefore incapable of supporting any progressive policies. betsuni 16 hrs ago #19
I'm glad he's speaking against this war lobby. David__77 18 hrs ago #17
Good for him. AIPAC is a lobbying org that promotes pro Israel policies to our lawmakers. Im not a Nanjeanne 16 hrs ago #20

Rob H.

(5,868 posts)
1. Accepting funding from AIPAC or its front organizations
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 09:07 PM
Sunday

needs to become as toxic to Democratic candidates as accepting money from the NRA. No votes for AIPAC shills.

Celerity

(54,666 posts)
21. Also, Israel has been BY FAR the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid (military + economic) since WWII.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 08:30 AM
15 hrs ago

And this chart ends 2 or so years ago, so you can add tens of billions of USD MORE to the money figures for Israel, plus Israel is a staggeringly small nation compared to the others on the chart, so the per capita amounts are truly off the charts:

https://www.cfr.org/articles/us-aid-israel-four-charts

displacedvermoter

(4,763 posts)
2. That Strategic Investment thing
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 09:13 PM
Sunday

is what Trump and company are saying about the billion dollars a day we are spending in Iran, and the 1.5 trillion dollars they want to add to the Pentagon budget.

AIPAC is up to no good...

JI7

(93,765 posts)
3. Blaming AIPAC is stupid but I know why people do it
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 09:14 PM
Sunday

The reason we don't have money for other things is becsuse many people don't support it. I mean mainly the Republicans.

Are Republicans going to suddenly support govt funding for health care. education, and other things just because we stop any money to Israel ?

Oppose any money to Israel all you want but stop blaming it for other things.

We fund Saudi Arabia and UAE and Pakistan and a bunch of other shit that is using it on wars in Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan etc and nobody gives a shit.
.

Eko

(10,031 posts)
4. I dont see where I or anyone on here blamed AIPAC. All I said is they they were tonedeaf.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 09:17 PM
Sunday

Ro Khanna didnt even blame them for it so I'm not sure why you are trying to argue against an argument no one made.

Eko

(10,031 posts)
5. How much do we give Saudi Arabia for arms? Or do you mean we sell them as opposed to giving to Israel?
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 09:20 PM
Sunday

Big difference.

Eko

(10,031 posts)
8. That one is a bit interesting diving in.
Sun Apr 19, 2026, 11:09 PM
Sunday

Yup, we sell arms to Israel. They pay for it by using money we gave them for that. $3.8 billion per year. They can use a small small part of it to buy arms from other countries. So technically you are correct, we sell arms to them but we give them the money to do so.

JI7

(93,765 posts)
10. We do the same with UAE, Saudi Arabia and many others
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 12:39 AM
23 hrs ago

It's all arrangements done to support our defense industry.

And you seem to not care about other countries using this for wars in Sudan, Yemen. Afghanistan etc.

Attilatheblond

(9,056 posts)
11. Bit of a reach, telling someone what they don't seem to care about
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 12:44 AM
23 hrs ago

I didn't see where that poster ever said anything remotely like that. Perhaps you could point it out to me, my eyes are old.

JI7

(93,765 posts)
12. When people only have a problem with Israel
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 12:50 AM
23 hrs ago

it shows this . People don't care about the other sht going on that we fund.

Eko

(10,031 posts)
15. I only have a problem with Isreal?
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 01:01 AM
23 hrs ago

How the fuck would you know you never even asked me?

Eko

(10,031 posts)
14. how much do we give Saudi Arabia?
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 12:59 AM
23 hrs ago

We gave 5.3 million to them in 2024. That's like one patriot missile. Israel? $3.8 billion per year and that is not including the supplemental aid we have given them in the last couple of years. Do you really think that 2.3 million in aid and 3.8 billion is the same? We are in no way funding Saudi Arabia's military to even a small degree while we are funding Israels to a major, major degree. In 2017 their entire military budget was about 20 billion. That means we were funding about 20%. Saudi Arabia? 70 billion. That makes lets see 5.3 million by divided by 70 billion =.08%. Quit conflating arms sales with funding, we may sell a lot of arms to S.A. but we hardly fund them at all where we send a huge amount of aid to Israel that they dont have to pay for. Huge difference.

3_Limes

(554 posts)
18. "Whataboutism" is pretty much the only defense they have. So it's what you're gonna get.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:08 AM
17 hrs ago

JI7

(93,765 posts)
13. Is there some law that says we can't pass bills to fund schools and childcare
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 12:52 AM
23 hrs ago

unless we stop funding Israel ?

betsuni

(29,154 posts)
19. A purity test to attack Democrats as corrupt, immoral and therefore incapable of supporting any progressive policies.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:28 AM
16 hrs ago

Why instead of simply disagreeing, the attacks are emotional and personal.

Nanjeanne

(6,618 posts)
20. Good for him. AIPAC is a lobbying org that promotes pro Israel policies to our lawmakers. Im not a
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 08:01 AM
16 hrs ago

fan of lobbying but certainly not one who lobbies for a foreign power. Doesn’t matter to me if it’s American based. Influencing lawmakers to give money to cancer research — Check. Influencing lawmakers for U.S. assistance to Israel—in the form of economic and military aid, diplomatic support, and other measures— this Jew says NO to politicians in bed with AIPAC.

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