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gab13by13

(32,566 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 07:56 AM Apr 21

The Military Is Telling Us That Krasnov Is Not Fit To be President - We Need To Listen To Them

Krasnov was blocked access to his country's nuclear codes by a senior US military chief. Why he wanted those codes was not determined.

Krasnov was also banned from the situation room by military advisors during the critical Iran rescue mission. The reason given was because of his furious temperament. Just maybe there was another reason, maybe our military fears that agent Krasnov is a Russian operative?

This needs to be on every front page of every news outlet, Krasnov is unfit to be president, the military is shouting that to us.

This is evidence to use the 25th Amendment. WTF people? This is a Big Fucking Deal what went on with Krasnov.

Where are Congressional Democrats on this?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-blocked-from-accessing-nuclear-codes-by-head-of-us-military/ar-AA21kSKT?

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The Military Is Telling Us That Krasnov Is Not Fit To be President - We Need To Listen To Them (Original Post) gab13by13 Apr 21 OP
This story still has not been verified. johnnyfins Apr 21 #1
Then it needs to be verified immediately. It shows an astonishing state of affairs, and Scrivener7 Apr 21 #6
Verified by who? gab13by13 Apr 21 #7
This is the most important story of the year. Irish_Dem Apr 21 #2
It's not a coup to refuse illegal or impaired orders. haele Apr 21 #10
You are talking law. I am talking reality and psychology. Irish_Dem Apr 21 #15
This country has been warned about trump many, many times... MiHale Apr 21 #3
Why he wanted the nuclear code?.................. Lovie777 Apr 21 #4
He's been jonesing to use a nuke since his first term. mwmisses4289 Apr 21 #13
I don't think that was an accurate portrayal Farmer-Rick Apr 21 #20
No, a look on the Internet is claiming that and you believe it without checking the source EdmondDantes_ Apr 21 #5
I saw the same report on MSNOW gab13by13 Apr 21 #8
So if you agree that Larry Johnson wasn't credible on the one, why is he credible on the other? EdmondDantes_ Apr 21 #9
Open your eyes, gab13by13 Apr 21 #11
Larry Johnson is the source of the thing you're breathlessly passing on EdmondDantes_ Apr 21 #14
JCS stopped traitor in 2021 Kid Berwyn Apr 21 #12
Kick orangecrush Apr 21 #17
Don't Happy, Be Worried. Kid Berwyn Apr 21 #21
To Begin, The First Link in That Story MineralMan Apr 21 #16
Why should Congressional Democrats touch this story with a 39 and 1/2 foot pole? Ol Janx Spirit Apr 21 #18
Where Trump is concerned, question everything, doubt nothing Grim Chieftain Apr 21 #19
That's not even how the nuclear code procedures work. Jedi Guy Apr 21 #22
I have no idea if this is true HOWEVER BannonsLiver Apr 21 #23
I personally believe this story and feel that some cabinet goons vapor2 Apr 21 #24

Scrivener7

(59,927 posts)
6. Then it needs to be verified immediately. It shows an astonishing state of affairs, and
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:18 AM
Apr 21

an immediate need to get rid of the asshole.

gab13by13

(32,566 posts)
7. Verified by who?
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:24 AM
Apr 21

People in the situation room?

Someone needs to investigate to get total verification. Who is going to investigate? Kash Patel?

Irish_Dem

(81,986 posts)
2. This is the most important story of the year.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:01 AM
Apr 21

US military staged a mini coup and refused a direct order from CIC.

haele

(15,512 posts)
10. It's not a coup to refuse illegal or impaired orders.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:52 AM
Apr 21

If a commander/commanding officer is otherwise mentally incapacitated (drunk, recklessly angry, outright insane), it's okay to slow-roll an illegal or blatantly given while impaired order that, like, could get everyone killed for no reason or undermine the mission in general for the commander's personal gratification.
Waste, Fraud, and Abuse of government resources is still illegal.

Irish_Dem

(81,986 posts)
15. You are talking law. I am talking reality and psychology.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 09:52 AM
Apr 21

A group of generals are refusing to do what Trump wants them to do.
This is a mini coup.

I also think the generals are the ones who had him removed from the situation room
because he was getting violent.

MiHale

(13,113 posts)
3. This country has been warned about trump many, many times...
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:04 AM
Apr 21

Still nothing done about him. He is a criminal…he broke this country’s laws…he should be arrested and jailed…president or not.

That’s all.

Lovie777

(23,389 posts)
4. Why he wanted the nuclear code?..................
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:05 AM
Apr 21

hell, I'm not military and I can answer that.

Leverage to scare other countries and in my opinion, to use them as well.

Cause shithole is viability nutso along with the rest of his crew.

mwmisses4289

(4,538 posts)
13. He's been jonesing to use a nuke since his first term.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 09:18 AM
Apr 21

Now that his deeply unpopular war is not going according to whatever stupid script he has in his addled brain, he wants to end it with a bang...a really, really, big bang.

However, we still have no confirmation on this story. We know he was kept out of the situation room during the pilot rescue because of his instability; but beyond that, it's mostly rumors and scuttlebutt.

Farmer-Rick

(12,753 posts)
20. I don't think that was an accurate portrayal
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 11:09 AM
Apr 21

Of what was going on in that room.

Where are the pilots? Who are the pilots? Why isn't pedo Trump using them as props?

EdmondDantes_

(1,990 posts)
5. No, a look on the Internet is claiming that and you believe it without checking the source
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:17 AM
Apr 21

Or do you also believe we're going to get a video of Michelle Obama ranting about whitey?

Larry Johnson isn't a valid source.

gab13by13

(32,566 posts)
8. I saw the same report on MSNOW
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:32 AM
Apr 21

I believe it was on Nicolle Wallace.

Are you serious comparing this with someone calling Michelle Obama a racist? You are posting a right wing talking point.

There is also only one man, a former KGB agent, who reported that Russia gave Trump the code name Krasnov. I can't prove that, but I can believe that seeing how Krasnov has done everything to please Putin and Russia.

People better start using common sense.

EdmondDantes_

(1,990 posts)
9. So if you agree that Larry Johnson wasn't credible on the one, why is he credible on the other?
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:40 AM
Apr 21

It's the same guy. So maybe you should reconsider which of us is pushing that right wing stuff and needs to start using common sense.

Do the most basic source checking especially before you accuse others of maleficence.

gab13by13

(32,566 posts)
11. Open your eyes,
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:53 AM
Apr 21

Whiskey Pete has been feuding with Army Secretary Dan Driscoll since Krasnov took over. Driscoll and other generals who don't agree with Hogsbreath or Krasnov get fired. When Driscoll praised the Army's top general, Randy George, Hogsbreath fired him for no reason.

Krasnov and Hogsbreath are firing military brass who disagree with them. This has been going on since Krasnov took over. They fired the JAG officers.

WTF man, there has been chaos going on in the military since Krasnov became president and there are dozens of examples.

I never said a thing about Larry Johnson, I don't know shit about him, but he said the same thing I saw on MSNOW.

Krasnov is a pedophile but I can't prove it because one of his accusers named Maria, disappeared and the other backed down when she got death threats. I call him a pedophile all of the time, especially to Magats in my home town.

EdmondDantes_

(1,990 posts)
14. Larry Johnson is the source of the thing you're breathlessly passing on
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 09:29 AM
Apr 21

Saying you know nothing about him is why I suggested that you check your sources. You then falsely attacked me and then shifted to the source doesn't matter because you already believe a thing.

Truth and facts aren't just what you want to believe. Someone isn't credible just because they're telling you what you want to believe.

Kid Berwyn

(24,837 posts)
12. JCS stopped traitor in 2021
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 09:07 AM
Apr 21

From NBC News:

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley took steps to prevent then-President Donald Trump from misusing the country's nuclear arsenal during the last month of his presidency, according to a new book by The Washington Post's Bob Woodward and Robert Costa obtained by NBC News.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/milley-acted-prevent-trump-misusing-nuclear-weapons-war-china-book-n127918

Kid Berwyn

(24,837 posts)
21. Don't Happy, Be Worried.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 11:15 AM
Apr 21

Every time something pops up that nails the turd dead to rights, up pop the nervous Nellies worried that the great American voting middle doesn’t need to see, hear or read anything to do with “Conspiracy Theory,” the catch-all term for anything that potentially upsets the status quo, doesn’t stand up to APA style book for referencing supporting materials and paid shillery, or passes Capitalism’s Invisible Army working socialist media debunking subgroup panel of shitstains and co-conspirators. Fighting the disinformation gets so tiring, many DUers just give up.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fZXy7WGogwI

MineralMan

(151,467 posts)
16. To Begin, The First Link in That Story
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 10:18 AM
Apr 21

goes to a completely unrelated news story that has nothing to do with Trump and nuclear codes.

I tuned out immediately.

If any officer in the military had actually refused to provide those codes to a POTUS, that person would be immediately removed from his or her position. That is beyond question.

So, that did not happen, and no evidence that it did is presented.

This should be disregarded in its entirety. The source is someone who is not currently involved in the intelligence community. It is bullshit!

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,048 posts)
18. Why should Congressional Democrats touch this story with a 39 and 1/2 foot pole?
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 10:41 AM
Apr 21

While there are probably elements of truth to the story, the reality is likely way less hyperbolic than the headlines that got the story the airtime the authors were looking for.

Good luck finding a source or even corroborating story in any of the materials. Without that it is just a story. It could just as likely be planted by someone wanting Democrats to look foolish in pursuing it.

Unless and until more sourced information comes out, Democrats should only ask questions and pull on threads to see what is real and what isn't. It certainly isn't 25th Amendment or impeachment material at this point.

And even if it were, neither of those are going to be successful anyway. Why are we even bothering to invoke their names at this point?

Jedi Guy

(3,489 posts)
22. That's not even how the nuclear code procedures work.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 11:58 AM
Apr 21

A military attache is with Trump at all times, carrying a briefcase referred to as the "football". Trump carries a card with authentication codes on them referred to as the "biscuit". If he wants to order a nuclear strike he summons the attache, provides the biscuit, and is then given the codes from the football. After that he can then order the strike by providing the codes from the football.

He doesn't need to ask the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs for the codes. He has ready access to them at all times without the Chairman being involved at all.

This story is not plausible, and it's not because Trump isn't stupid and/or crazy enough to order an unprovoked nuclear strike. It's because our nuclear command and control procedures don't work the way the story describes.

BannonsLiver

(20,757 posts)
23. I have no idea if this is true HOWEVER
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 12:08 PM
Apr 21

Those who seem to think it’s so far out of the realm of
Of possibility with this dementia addled freak have REALLY lost the plot and are now well behind the curve. .Just because you don’t believe it, or can’t comprehend it, or are still desperately holding on to the “how things used to be” shtick, doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen.

vapor2

(4,780 posts)
24. I personally believe this story and feel that some cabinet goons
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 10:45 PM
Apr 21

are bypassing partially bypassing 47. The republicans need to take action period

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