Instead of asking other men how to talk to women, men can just... talk to women

[ihaveaquestion]

Leslie Jones tells it like it is on The Daily Show

[Srkdqltr]

1. Leslie Jones is always right.

I turned the sound on to listen to her. I don't do that for just anyone.

[niyad]

2. KNR

[SSJVegeta]

3. But they have cooties!

(Realizing how this is almost exactly how it is still for too many grown men)

[FascismIsDeath]

4. A lot of these younger generation guys have no clue how to even attempt that.

They have "no game" as we use to say. They are terrified of rejection. The manosphere bullshit has made it 100 times worse.

[hunter]

5. I never had any "game" and have always talked to women...

...maybe even more than I talked to men.

I've never had any problems finding common interests.

"Girlfriend" status usually evolved from that.

Except for my wife. That wasn't an evolved thing at all. I was in love with her from the start.

[lostnfound]

7. Widespread decline in testosterone levels from PFAS and plastics is relevant -- and screens

in the 70s the expression ‘on the prowl’ described male behavior of teens and twenties a whole lot.
Guys generally wanted girlfriends. Social pressure to pair up was constant.

Dating behavior has collapsed.

Meanwhile, escape into screens has reduced in-person experience with friends and overcoming social fears.

The young generations are a great group in many ways, in my opinion, but i do think theyve been harmed by the above factors.

[OldBaldy1701E]

8. The concept of 'society' is about to collapse completely.

We as a society do not gather socially anymore. There always has to be a reason to do so. We don't just all go sit in the shade in the town square in the late evening and chat while the kids play.

We don't do this because the powers in the country don't want us gathering and talking. They don't want us trying to discuss things and trying to learn about other people and their lives. They wanted us at each other's throats.

And, for all intents and purposes, they got what they wanted. I cannot walk down the street these days without noticing that I am the only person with his head held up, looking forward and attempting to meet other's gaze. I say attempting, because no one here will look at another person while they are anywhere near another person. It is very concerning. No one around here will do this.

It has now become 'cool' to be as anti-social as possible.

Which bodes so well for our stated goal of being 'We, the people...'.

[GenThePerservering]

12. Huh - I wonder what all of those coffee shops full of chatting people

and noisy pubs are doing? All the running events, all the bike rides...last ride I was on went to get some pie and there were 50 people.

[OldBaldy1701E]

15. That is interesting, as the last coffee shop I was in had around dozen people in it.

Some were alone. Some were with others.

Every Single One of them was on their device... be it the phone or the computer.

NO ONE was talking to anyone, except the baristas, because they were working.

Again, would they have gathered to be 'noisy' if there had been no pub? Or any other excuse to be together, as opposed to just visiting someone and hanging out for no reason other than the fact that they want to hang out together?

Does there have to be a bike ride? Or a running event? Because it sure seems like there has to be some reason or excuse to force us to be together.

[hunter]

10. It's not a testosterone problem, it's a cultural problem.

If a lower testosterone makes it more difficult for some guys to overcome their fear of socializing with women then it's the fear of women that's the problem. Misogyny is another expression of this fear.

High testosterone levels only amplify the negative expressions of this fear.

Maybe low testosterone levels are a good thing in misogynistic cultures, possibly reducing levels of violence against women and LGBTQ people.

Growing up I was a skinny, squeaky, highly reactive, autistic spectrum klutz. Starting about sixth grade I was violently excluded from the "on the prowl" culture of males who "wanted girlfriends" and felt the constant "social pressure to pair up."

Maybe I got lucky. One consequence may have been that I didn't feel this social pressure. Or maybe I wouldn't have in the first place. Yes, I was very shy sometimes, as many people are, but otherwise my social relationships with people who were not these males "on the prowl" were nearly effortless. By the time I asked anyone out for a romantic date, or they asked me, we were already comfortable enough with one another that we might be disappointed if the answer was "no" but there were not any overwhelming feelings of rejection.

[lostnfound]

11. It's not only fear. I see a lack of interest. And i wasn't judging, just considering science and biology

[ihaveaquestion]

9. They seem not willing or able to put any effort into "the game."

Maybe they assume it should all "come naturally."

Short story:
Years ago when before I retired, I would hear from younger men at work that they didn't know where to meet women and I would tell them the best place I knew... Swing Dancing!

I was a dancer and I'd tell them about all the young women who go out dancing and would be happy to dance with nice young men, even if they were inexperienced. Most people remember when they first learned to dance and as an experienced dancer myself, I had no problem dancing with and helping a beginner. It was still fun for me. Btw, lots of dances offer short free beginner lessons, too.

It was a cheap night out, too. Maybe $5 to $15 at the time. Most dances I know of today are about $10 to $30, depending on whether there's a band or not and how popular it is. Also, if you don't like swing music, try salsa, or ballroom, or polka, or funk, or soul or country. Unless you live in the boonies, it's probably out there.

Guys - if your partner asks you to dance.... go for it! You'll probably have at least a little bit of fun and it's the best way I know of to get the juices flowing, if you know what I mean!

Enjoy!

[Wonder Why]

6. Alot of men are too shy. I was and had very few dates until I was 24. Then I met a woman who

was shy too. We started talking and we both opened up. A year later we got married. That was nearly 54 years ago. I'm not as shy as I was but still am hesitant. 9n the other hand, she has completely recovered from her shyness.

Ow! Ow! I didn't mean it that way, honey!

[DFW]

13. When I met my wife, I was blown away, and at a loss as to what kind of line to use on a woman like that

Having none, I just stuck out my hand and said hi. This July, we will have been together for 52 years, 44 of them married.

In my meager experience, women aren´t looking for fancy pick-up lines. They are looking for men who don´t use them.

"I just want someone that I can talk to.
I want you just the way you are."

--Billy Joel

[usedtobedemgurl]

14. I had a guy approach me on the internet the other day.

He sent dick pix! I told him he was a creep! Some need to stay away from women altogether.