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durablend

(9,322 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:02 PM Thursday

Fetterman: 'Iran must be so excited by the American media and the Democratic Party'

https://www.abc27.com/pennsylvania/fetterman-iran-must-be-so-excited-by-the-american-media-and-the-democratic-party/

Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) is criticizing fellow Democrats and the media for not showing more support for military operations against Iran, quipping that “Iran must be so excited” that the Democratic Party and leading media outlets are putting pressure on President Trump to cease hostilities as soon as possible.

“It’s almost as if, you know, we’ve forgotten on the Democratic side that the real enemy, the real threat, the real danger is Iran and … proxies too,” Fetterman told Fox News in an interview Wednesday evening.

He said constant Democratic criticism of Trump’s military operations against Iran is giving the Iranian regime hope that if it can withstand missile strikes and a U.S. naval blockade of its ports for a few more weeks, Trump will be forced by political pressure to pull back.

“You know, Iran must be so excited by the American media and the Democratic Party the way they, it’s like, as long as we can hang on for 60 days, more and more people continue to vote against, you know, the Trump administration to end the Iranian regime,” he said. (continues)


Another day ending in -y for him licking Trump's shoes.
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Fetterman: 'Iran must be so excited by the American media and the Democratic Party' (Original Post) durablend Thursday OP
UGH! JBTaurus83 Thursday #1
His mind is gone... Chasstev365 Thursday #2
I doubt it. But I'm cynical. mucifer Thursday #7
Fetterman embracing Trump and MAGA at this point is like a rat swiming towards the Titanic Chasstev365 Thursday #15
This is who he is. We shouldn't make excuses as if something is obstructing otherwise normal thought. themaguffin Friday #92
Dumbass Dino GTFO then...go where your heart lies...Republican faker.... wcmagumba Thursday #3
Big stupid head full of mush displacedvermoter Thursday #4
His stroke has so perma-wrecked his brain. He is a hot mess who needs to be stopped at the polls in the 2028 Dem primary Celerity Thursday #5
He was a loon well before Boo1 Thursday #54
No he was not, and the jogger involved in the 2013 gun incident, Christopher Miyares, Celerity Friday #69
Did you even read what you posted? Boo1 Friday #88
I never said it made it ok. It is background from the article. I absolutely stand by my claim that the stroke massively Celerity Friday #100
The only thing that changed Boo1 Friday #103
Disagree and I will leave it as agree to disagree. nt Celerity Friday #105
That's a long time for him to cause everybody pain. travelingthrulife Friday #90
He's still saying "Democratic" DavidDvorkin Thursday #6
Not a Pennsylvanian so someone help me, please. How on earth did this guy get elected as a Dem? walkingman Thursday #8
He beat Oz... lame54 Thursday #12
He ran as a populist JBTaurus83 Thursday #17
I remember the stroke and a growth on his neck or something. Glad he beat Oz but wow, walkingman Thursday #39
Philly and Pittsburgh are progressive JBTaurus83 Thursday #47
PA went for Trump in 2016 and 2024. Therefore, it certainly isn't that progressive. LeftInTX Friday #95
he used to be a semi-cool guy Skittles Thursday #27
As Lt. Gov. of PA he actually....... MyOwnPeace Thursday #36
I find the attitude about weed kind of strange. I've never thought of pot as a big deal walkingman Thursday #46
all I know is Skittles Thursday #51
That's interesting - never thought about something like that changing your ideology. walkingman Thursday #41
Fuck that guy ever so much and ever so hard. Ocelot II Thursday #9
SIDEWAYS with a CHOLLA CACTUS -also called the JUMPING CACTUS! If you've ever seen one of these & The_REAL_Ecumenist Thursday #55
The Fucking REAL enemy is the PEDO NAZI Cha Thursday #10
Trump and Republicans must be excited about Fetterman lame54 Thursday #11
They are MIButterfly Friday #101
Many if us were fooled. He was a fighter... lame54 Friday #115
Pennsylvania Democrats were scammed good. dalton99a Thursday #13
Unfortunately so was DU... I should know.. Cha Thursday #22
and we ended up getting a worthless centrist anyways. Emile Thursday #31
Fetterman isn't a "centrist"... he Cha Thursday #33
One thing for certain, Fetterman is not progressive. Emile Thursday #34
Fetterman was promoted by "progressives" which just means Nixie Friday #72
Fetterman was endorsed by Schumer too. Emile Friday #73
Bernie's candidate Fetterman wound up being Nixie Friday #74
Schumer's candidate Fetterman, with the one million dollars Emile Friday #75
Bernie's candidate Fetterman was eventually helped by Nixie Friday #77
LOL Emile Friday #78
LOL Nixie Friday #79
Aloha Nixie.. Please see Post # 107 Cha Friday #108
Thanks Cha...how can we forget that Fetterman was such Nixie Saturday #130
YOu're Very Welcome, Nixie.. Cha Saturday #131
This is a super bizarre take. Schumer supported Fetterman after he became the Democratic nominee tritsofme Friday #80
So he was unilaterally supported by many MichMan Friday #82
Exactly Emile Friday #84
Bernie Sanders Returns To Pittsburgh To Stump For John Fetterman Cha Friday #107
No one is denying Bernie supported Schumer's Emile Friday #113
Preach! sheshe2 Thursday #38
Fetterman went to Mar a lago on Jan 9 to kiss the ring... Cha Thursday #40
Well, we tried to warn people. sheshe2 Thursday #56
What a Legacy he's made for himself.. Cha Thursday #61
What are the odds on a more serious stroke? niyad Friday #117
I have no idea. sheshe2 Friday #119
re: your pic--I have never seen F in a suit and tie--but looking close--it is from the Senate. riversedge Friday #81
Yup, remembered well. republianmushroom Friday #112
Fetterman is a con man. Not a centrist. paleotn Thursday #42
AI overview of Fetterman, is Fetternan a centrist? Emile Friday #71
Like AI is actually accurate?? paleotn Friday #93
Yep, it's very accurate. Emile Friday #94
...... paleotn Friday #96
...... Emile Friday #97
......... paleotn Friday #98
......... Emile Friday #99
Being called a centrist by The Hill does not make one a centrist. paleotn Friday #124
The Hill is regarded as Centrist, and reliable Emile Friday #125
Anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is considered "centrist" by The Hill. paleotn Friday #128
What defines a judgemental person? Emile Friday #129
He voted with Pukes to end the shutdown and fund ICE. Multiple times!!! paleotn Saturday #133
We both agree Fetterman is a pos. Emile Saturday #134
Look back at your responses. I'm judgmental? Really? paleotn Saturday #136
If the shoe fits, wear it. Have a good day paleotn. Emile Saturday #137
No it doesn't. Look back at what you posted. And what I did. paleotn Saturday #139
I agree he lied when he ran for office. Emile Saturday #140
I have a suspicion it may be more accurate and less biased than some posts in this thread... Violet_Crumble Saturday #132
Really?? paleotn Saturday #135
I liked Lamb a lot Cosmocat Thursday #49
Good to know, CosmoCat... Cha Thursday #52
Yep Cosmocat Friday #91
Wow... That's a 180 degree turn! Cha Friday #114
Fetterman's wife Gisele was undocumented when she came to the US Zorro Thursday #14
Dear John we lived through Iraq.... Hope22 Thursday #16
Next thing you know he'll be shirtless with RFK chugging raw milk in sweatpants and Florsheims Blue Owl Thursday #18
I'm beginning to wish for an incapacitating reoccurence of his prior medical issue. 58Sunliner Thursday #19
Fettean never served for the military we love Johonny Thursday #20
Two things bluestarone Thursday #21
I think he's finally going to be pushed out the door buzzycrumbhunger Thursday #23
Fetterman is simply a fart in human form. Tim S Thursday #24
Now see here, you asshole Fetterman FullySupportDems Thursday #25
He is case of someone having a stroke and he got so brain damaged he now thinks like a repuke. kimbutgar Thursday #26
Now THAT........ MyOwnPeace Thursday #37
one doubts iran gives a toot what democrats think and do. trump is their enemy nt msongs Thursday #28
Oh, I think we know very well who the real enemy is. tavernier Thursday #29
He wasn't great before the stroke Aepps22 Thursday #30
Shut up Fetterman duckworth969 Thursday #32
The real enemy is you, dipshit. n/t flvegan Thursday #35
Two more years . . . AverageOldGuy Thursday #43
What sad is that fetterman isn't upset that trump did not go through lostincalifornia Thursday #44
Senator sweatpants somehow forgot to mention MW67 Thursday #45
LOL Senator Sweatpants leftstreet Thursday #58
My Republican sister in law was trying to impress me... Trueblue Texan Thursday #48
I think that's better than Putin being excited because *rump's war of choice is helping fund his war of choice Uncle Joe Thursday #50
Putin must be overjoyed to have a lickspittle Democratic senator Still Waters Friday #111
What's going on struggle4progress Thursday #53
The most disappointing Democrat since John Edwards and Joe Lieberman Tasmanian Devil Thursday #57
He sounds like Figarosmom Thursday #59
STFU Piggy... 2naSalit Thursday #60
FOAD DINO OMGWTF Thursday #62
To quote Lady Macbeth: "Look like the innocent flower/ But..... ColoringFool Thursday #63
Fetterman is eating fruit from a poison tree. Mblaze Thursday #64
John... GiqueCee Thursday #65
Has he forgotten that he's supposed to be a Democrat? Retrograde Thursday #66
Two years away, however the answer is yes. sheshe2 Friday #123
Fuck off, Lurch. LudwigPastorius Thursday #67
Defeated Man Walking. ColoringFool Thursday #68
The word for today is "lick-spittle." mike_c Friday #70
Stroke changed him? Doubtful. I know it has johnnyfins Friday #76
I knew he was a phony Henry203 Friday #83
To be a Democrat is to understand that there are no absolutes in the world. Baitball Blogger Friday #85
I don't think he's too old to resign and join the military. Flufferman should show the world that he supports Autumn Friday #86
He is, and he's quite ill. mr715 Friday #110
Then he should resign. nt Autumn Friday #118
He should. mr715 Friday #120
this fucker bigtree Friday #87
Anti-American ass. travelingthrulife Friday #89
He's right gulliver Friday #102
Six years is a long time to elect someone pwb Friday #104
I'm beginning to miss Joe Manchin Norbert Friday #106
Go eat shit, Fetterman. Initech Friday #109
May he receive everything he deserves. niyad Friday #116
I never fully trusted the big doofus. CivicGrief Friday #121
How do you keep from gagging when your face is near Trump's rump Fetterman? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Friday #122
Why hasn't he already been expelled from the party? Doodley Friday #126
;-{) SHIFTY Goonch Friday #127
This asshole will be unemployed soon Mysterian Saturday #138

Chasstev365

(7,994 posts)
15. Fetterman embracing Trump and MAGA at this point is like a rat swiming towards the Titanic
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:31 PM
Thursday

themaguffin

(5,299 posts)
92. This is who he is. We shouldn't make excuses as if something is obstructing otherwise normal thought.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 12:00 PM
Friday

Celerity

(54,760 posts)
5. His stroke has so perma-wrecked his brain. He is a hot mess who needs to be stopped at the polls in the 2028 Dem primary
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:07 PM
Thursday

Celerity

(54,760 posts)
69. No he was not, and the jogger involved in the 2013 gun incident, Christopher Miyares,
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:01 AM
Friday

(who was in prison serving an 18- to 36-month sentence after being convicted in 2019 of kidnapping, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, etc) said in a letter to The Philadelphia Inquirer he hoped Fetterman would win the 2022 US Senate race.

The bottom line is that pre-stroke Fetterman was profoundly different (a claim backed up by so many surrounding him in his personal, professional, and political life) from the post- stroke Fetterman. He is perma-changed and perma-damaged in my (and countless others') opinion.

Man John Fetterman confronted with a shotgun says that should not stymie his Senate bid

https://archive.ph/dd339

CHRIS BRENNAN
Philadelphia Inquirer / / STAFF WRITER


A man confronted in 2013 by a shotgun-wielding John Fetterman — then mayor of Braddock, now lieutenant governor and running for the U.S. Senate — claims Mr. Fetterman has "lied about everything" that happened that day. But Christopher Miyares, writing from a state prison in Somerset County, also told The Inquirer that incident should not stop Mr. Fetterman from becoming a senator. "Even with everything I said, it is inhumane to believe one mistake should define a man's life," Miyares wrote in one of two letters sent to The Inquirer. "I hope he gets to be a Senator." (That last line was underlined three times.)

The shotgun incident long has been discussed in political circles as Mr. Fetterman's career soared. But it has drawn new attention amid the racial reckoning stoked after the police killing of George Floyd and as Mr. Fetterman, a favorite of progressives, emerged as the early Democratic front-runner in a race next year that could determine control of the Senate.
Mr. Fetterman and Miyares tell very different versions about that January day from eight years back. Mr. Fetterman's story: He heard gunfire near his home in Braddock and saw a man wearing a mask running away, so he called 911, chased him down in his truck, and approached him with a shotgun in hand. Mr. Fetterman, who is white, has repeatedly denied knowing Miyares was Black or pointing the shotgun at him.

Miyares lived in Braddock at the time and said he liked Mr. Fetterman, but disputed his account. "He lied about everything," Miyares wrote. He has previously said he was jogging in the neighborhood when he heard fireworks, just before Mr. Fetterman confronted him. "He knew my race. The gun was aimed at my chest while he loaded five red shells into the tube of the 12-gauge TAC shotgun," Miyares wrote. "Once he finished, he aimed it at my face out of the Ford F-150 Truck." But in a second letter to The Inquirer, postmarked on the same day last month, Miyares said Mr. Fetterman could face a political backlash now if the Senate candidate revised his account. "Telling the truth on an incident 10 years ago could cause him more harm than good," Miyares wrote. "Mr. Fetterman and his family have done far more good than that one bad act or action and, as such, should not be defined by it." He signed that letter: "Gooo Fetterman."

The accounts of both men match a description in a 2013 incident report filed by Braddock police, who said Miyares was unarmed. The officer who responded to the 911 call said two people in the area stopped him to say "they heard several shots" before he got to Mr. Fetterman and Miyares. The officer wrote that Miyares, 36, was wearing "running clothing" and headphones and was "very cooperative, but was upset that Fetterman pulled a shotgun on him." Miyares' letters were in response to a letter from The Inquirer, seeking his version of the incident. He is serving an 18- to 36-month sentence after being convicted in 2019 of kidnapping, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, and other crimes against a woman who hired him for a ride to work. Miyares contended in his letter that he is "in prison for a crime I didn't commit."

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Boo1

(422 posts)
88. Did you even read what you posted?
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 10:33 AM
Friday

Fetterman was holding an unarmed black jogger at the end of a shotgun, after chasing him down in his truck.

Are you trying to say that since he was in prison for something totally unrelated a decade later that it makes it ok?

Celerity

(54,760 posts)
100. I never said it made it ok. It is background from the article. I absolutely stand by my claim that the stroke massively
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 01:01 PM
Friday

changed him and not for the better.

Boo1

(422 posts)
103. The only thing that changed
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 01:26 PM
Friday

Was his platform. More eyes on him to see how big of a shithead he always was.

DavidDvorkin

(20,631 posts)
6. He's still saying "Democratic"
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:10 PM
Thursday

When he switches to "Democrat" as the adjective, that will complete his transition.

walkingman

(11,057 posts)
8. Not a Pennsylvanian so someone help me, please. How on earth did this guy get elected as a Dem?
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:15 PM
Thursday

Being from Texas, not judging the State for having elected a dipshit for Senator because we have some real jewels (Cornyn and Cruz) but just can't see how he ever got the support of Dems?

JBTaurus83

(1,584 posts)
17. He ran as a populist
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:36 PM
Thursday

Against a more qualified candidate. The primary voters wanted to pin any magical wishes and hopes on Fetterman’s campaign which was light on details. Apparently all he had to do was travel around looking like a slob. He then had a stroke during the campaign and only won because his competition was Oz who actually lives in Jersey.

walkingman

(11,057 posts)
39. I remember the stroke and a growth on his neck or something. Glad he beat Oz but wow,
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:55 PM
Thursday

I always thought of Pa. as a pretty progressive place. I guess it depends on what district like in Texas. Here almost every Texas city is blue but everywhere else is deep red....which I find very weird. I happen to live in rural Texas and it is about as not-progressive as you could possibly imagine.

JBTaurus83

(1,584 posts)
47. Philly and Pittsburgh are progressive
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:08 PM
Thursday

The rest of the state is basically Kentucky. It’s always a battle for turnout.

Skittles

(172,336 posts)
27. he used to be a semi-cool guy
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:06 PM
Thursday

Last edited Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:39 PM - Edit history (1)

I think the stroke turned him red

MyOwnPeace

(17,601 posts)
36. As Lt. Gov. of PA he actually.......
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:38 PM
Thursday

led public hearings on the legalization of weed!
I'd love to hear his stance on that now.....

walkingman

(11,057 posts)
46. I find the attitude about weed kind of strange. I've never thought of pot as a big deal
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:06 PM
Thursday

but admittedly never tried any of the more modern versions that are supposed to be much stronger - wish Texas would legalize.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(964 posts)
55. SIDEWAYS with a CHOLLA CACTUS -also called the JUMPING CACTUS! If you've ever seen one of these &
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:31 PM
Thursday

know how it actually protects itself, you'd know how much I despise that demented sumbitch. It not only has spines, those spines are BARBED like porcupine spines are, which work their way deeper as you move. So you can see how much animus I have for that broken headed Lurch traitor. Can he be recalled?

Cha

(319,920 posts)
10. The Fucking REAL enemy is the PEDO NAZI
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:20 PM
Thursday

in the fukcing WH.

You're being Stupid Fettterman. Do you Ever call out fucking PEDO?

MIButterfly

(3,009 posts)
101. They are
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 01:12 PM
Friday

My aunt once asked me if I knew who was a rising star in the "Democrat" party. Oh, do tell who you think is a rising star in the DEMOCRATIC party. "John Fetterman. He wrote a book called Unfettered." Well, that certainly nails it.

She probably got that bit of wisdom from my ultra-conservative, Rush Limbaugh worshipping uncle. She doesn't have a single opinion that didn't come flying out of my uncle's ass.

I never talk politics with these people. It's an exercise in futility.

Cha

(319,920 posts)
22. Unfortunately so was DU... I should know..
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:47 PM
Thursday

I was for Conor Lamb, and I got told that Fetterman was a real "progressive" and Lamb was a "centrist".

Cha

(319,920 posts)
33. Fetterman isn't a "centrist"... he
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:31 PM
Thursday

supports and votes for the Fascist wing.

And, Conor Lamb is not "worthless". "AOC has apologized to him".

Nixie

(18,056 posts)
72. Fetterman was promoted by "progressives" which just means
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:25 AM
Friday

Bernie’s approval in these contexts.

Emile

(42,847 posts)
73. Fetterman was endorsed by Schumer too.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:30 AM
Friday

Bernie endorsed Mamdani, Schumer didn't. Schumer's approval in these contexts.

Nixie

(18,056 posts)
74. Bernie's candidate Fetterman wound up being
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:36 AM
Friday

endorsed which was the constant demand from Bernie fans — endorse Bernie’s “progressives.”

Emile

(42,847 posts)
75. Schumer's candidate Fetterman, with the one million dollars
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:47 AM
Friday

that he transferred in campaign funds to his effort, done more for his victory than Bernie's endorsement. Endorsements from the
Minority Leader of the United States Senate carries more weight than a single senator from Vermont.

Nixie

(18,056 posts)
77. Bernie's candidate Fetterman was eventually helped by
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:02 AM
Friday

the party after he won the primary. Bernie’s candidate Fetterman ran against centrist Conor Lamb. Using AI won’t change the facts that “progressives” wanted Bernie’s candidate Fetterman endorsed and supported by the party leaders.

Nixie

(18,056 posts)
79. LOL
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:08 AM
Friday

Yes, trying to change history to keep from taking responsibility is very funny stuff.

Nixie

(18,056 posts)
130. Thanks Cha...how can we forget that Fetterman was such
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 12:29 AM
Saturday

a big win here for Bernie and progressives.

Thanks for the article as a reminder.

Cha

(319,920 posts)
131. YOu're Very Welcome, Nixie..
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 02:43 AM
Saturday

I sure didn't forget.

Interesting how Sanders' influence is being minimized.

💔💙 ☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜

tritsofme

(19,929 posts)
80. This is a super bizarre take. Schumer supported Fetterman after he became the Democratic nominee
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:11 AM
Friday

Schumer supporting Fetterman after he became the Democratic nominee isn’t some special signal—it’s literally his job as leader to back the party’s candidate in a battleground race.

If you want to talk about “ownership,” Bernie endorsed and pushed Fetterman during the primary, when there were actually alternative choices like Conor Lamb. That’s when support matters.

Calling him “Schumer’s candidate” is just silly. Bernie has more claim to this mess than Schumer ever did.

As Nixie mentioned above, this is a pretty sad attempt at dodging accountability.

Cha

(319,920 posts)
107. Bernie Sanders Returns To Pittsburgh To Stump For John Fetterman
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 02:50 PM
Friday
Bernie Sanders is making his second campaign swing through Pennsylvania in two-and-a-half months, campaigning for the Democratic Party's nominee for lieutenant governor, John Fetterman.

https://www.wesa.fm/politics-government/2018-07-12/bernie-sanders-returns-to-pittsburgh-to-stump-for-john-fetterman

Cha

(319,920 posts)
40. Fetterman went to Mar a lago on Jan 9 to kiss the ring...
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:56 PM
Thursday

yeah, I'd say that's not "prggressive" and an early RED FLAG.

"He said PEDO was kind..." blah blah..

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5108831-john-fetterman-trump-mar-a-lago-meeting/

Mahalo, Patriot

Cha

(319,920 posts)
61. What a Legacy he's made for himself..
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:46 PM
Thursday

with the non-fascist/ Patriot giant wing of the USA

History will not be kind if we get our Democracy and sanity back! 💙💔☮️🌻🕯️🕊️💜

riversedge

(81,310 posts)
81. re: your pic--I have never seen F in a suit and tie--but looking close--it is from the Senate.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:13 AM
Friday

paleotn

(22,505 posts)
42. Fetterman is a con man. Not a centrist.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:59 PM
Thursday

It's all about him and always was. Time for PA to send him back to whatever bum fuck town he crawled out of.

Emile

(42,847 posts)
71. AI overview of Fetterman, is Fetternan a centrist?
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:31 AM
Friday

AI Overview

Senator John Fetterman is increasingly considered a centrist or center-left Democrat, having shifted away from his initial progressive branding. He frequently breaks with his party on key issues, including strong support for Israel, strict border policies, and criticizing left-wing viewpoints, leading to popularity gains among Republicans and tensions with progressive constituents.

paleotn

(22,505 posts)
128. Anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is considered "centrist" by The Hill.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:06 PM
Friday

Please. An artifact of our current politics unfortunately.

paleotn

(22,505 posts)
133. He voted with Pukes to end the shutdown and fund ICE. Multiple times!!!
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 09:06 AM
Saturday

You know, Donnie's paramilitaries who gun down Americans in the goddamn street. Remember them? Or are you cool with Trump's ICE and its mission?

Voted to confirm Trump appointees Kristi Noem, Eric Turner, and Lee Zeldin. All grossly unqualified.

Supports Trump's Gaza scheme, including sending US troops. I guess Gaza Palestinians should just cease to exist.

Supports the current debacle with Iran that's pointless, an abject failure, and has made the ME even more unstable.

Refuses to even say that Trump's policies are destructive to the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/18/john-fetterman-democrat-trump-progressive
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-fetterman-senate-voting-record-democrats-trump/

And actually had the gall to meet with the orange fascist in Florida.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fetterman-trump-mar-a-lago/

What the F does it actually take for you to recognize reality? Are you related to the conman or something? Do you actually agree with Fetterman on those issues? Don't point fingers are me. Look at yourself.



Emile

(42,847 posts)
134. We both agree Fetterman is a pos.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 09:11 AM
Saturday

Accusing me of being related to the conman is weird and judgemental.

paleotn

(22,505 posts)
139. No it doesn't. Look back at what you posted. And what I did.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 12:28 PM
Saturday

I'm merely stating Fetterman ran on what he's not. He lied. He's a con. He's not centrist, he's opportunist. Whether you chose to believe that or not is on you. I'm just stating the facts on the ground.

Emile

(42,847 posts)
140. I agree he lied when he ran for office.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 01:20 PM
Saturday

John Fetterman votes with his party 91% of the time, indicating he breaks ranks with Democrats about 9% of the time.

According to AI he's a centrist. Now you can disagree with that, I really don't care. But don't scold me for having my own opinion.

Violet_Crumble

(36,406 posts)
132. I have a suspicion it may be more accurate and less biased than some posts in this thread...
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 03:47 AM
Saturday

Here I am again with no dog in this fight, but I did ask Claude about which Democrats endorsed Fetterman and it gave me what looks like a reasonably credible answer. It didn't put the word progressives in dit-dits or call Fetterman 'Bernie's candidate', so it appears to be less biased than some comments in this thread. Isn't it pretty clear that Fetterman's stroke has had an impact on him? Accusing people of supporting him pre-stroke and before his behaviour became so horrible is pretty silly and desperate imo. I thought he was pretty cool when he started as a Senator. Am I going to be blamed for that and labelled a 'progressive?' The most acccurate description of my politics is socialist, which I suspect would cause a few heads to explode lol

We're taught at work to use AI as a tool to draft or seek information, but always double check what it gives you as it can be flat out wrong or slanted in some weird direction . I was told by Co-pilot that I only had to water my Jade plant once a month and only give it 2ml of water. It died. Screw you, copilot! I dumped you for Claude!

Anyway, I get confused about the US political spectrum, so I asked Claude. Bottom line, is the US Left is generally more to the centre than the Left in other countries and that's because of factors like first past the post voting, and non-compulsory voting. The US only has two parties and the Democratic Party is made up of a wide range of factions that would belong to separate parties in other countries. It's why I see so much contempt from some liberal Americans towards others who are further to the left or the right on the spectrum to them. I think they're all wasting their time and energy and should come together to fight the real evil, which is Trump and the Republicans.

Cosmocat

(15,456 posts)
91. Yep
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 11:59 AM
Friday

I got interested in Fetterman when he was running for LT Governor.

Saw him do a campaign stop at a local bookstore, good turnout for something like that, 50 or so people.

He stayed after to talk to anyone who talked to him, I saw because I waited to the end, took about an hour.

He was humble, was running with Tom Wolf as Govenor and said if there was a choice he would gladly lose to make sure Wolf won - his referencing super wing nut in the house, Mastronio, who was telling people that if he won Governor he would not validate any Ds who won a state level election.

He was right on all our issues - straightforward and unapologetically. He also was direct about his criticisms of Rs. One of his appeals was that he really went at them. When he won LT governor he hung a pride flag from the window of his office, which drove them nuts. As LT Gov, he was kind of a tie breaker for the Senate and had other roles with the Senate - he did his homework and figured out ways to throw wrenches at them, which again, drove the nuts.

He openly pushed, and I think successfully, some prison reforms that fell under his jurisdiction and also marijuana reforms, which I don't think made it.

I liked Lamb a lot, he was the solid slight blue doggish type, but he seems like a quality guy and would have had a good appeal in PA. But I met with Fetterman a few times, he was a politician, no doubt, but he was the kind of firebrand progressive that we so desperately needed.

Not sure that happened, even before his stroke it was clear his ego was getting the best of him once he got elected to the Senate, and was liking hearing himself talk. But, he just is not the same guy at all since the stroke.

Cha

(319,920 posts)
114. Wow... That's a 180 degree turn!
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:23 PM
Friday

TY for that interesting synopsis of Fetterman before he was this Fetterman.

One for the books!

Zorro

(18,781 posts)
14. Fetterman's wife Gisele was undocumented when she came to the US
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:25 PM
Thursday

I'm wondering whether Trump has threatened to send her back to Brazil. Could be one reason why Fetterman is so cozy with the Republicans.

Blue Owl

(59,413 posts)
18. Next thing you know he'll be shirtless with RFK chugging raw milk in sweatpants and Florsheims
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:36 PM
Thursday

Johonny

(26,419 posts)
20. Fettean never served for the military we love
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:42 PM
Thursday

And apparently he hates so fuck him.

We support our troops and want them home. Iran's leaders are awful, but they're in no way worse due to this war. Meanwhile we lost half our offensive strike capability and there no end in sight for our people in harms way.

buzzycrumbhunger

(2,077 posts)
23. I think he's finally going to be pushed out the door
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:00 PM
Thursday

Just saw this on FB:

U.S. Democratic Socialists
2h
·
OUCH: Bye traitor! Sen. John Fetterman receives ZERO support for re-election from Pennsylvania House members from his own party. Not a single one. The painful 6-year experiment with this war-mongering, traitorous monster is about to be over.

Good riddance! Hope PA has someone who’ll turn this mess around.

FullySupportDems

(468 posts)
25. Now see here, you asshole Fetterman
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:04 PM
Thursday

When you talk about what Iran thinks, you aren't talking about the Iranian people. You're talking about their government, who doesn't give a damn about them either. You're laughing at the slaughter of innocent people, for politics. So just shut the hell up about the people trying to stop it. You jerk, we used to root for you. Please just shut up.

kimbutgar

(27,406 posts)
26. He is case of someone having a stroke and he got so brain damaged he now thinks like a repuke.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:06 PM
Thursday

MyOwnPeace

(17,601 posts)
37. Now THAT........
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:43 PM
Thursday

is some SERIOUS stroke! I'll bet the Secretary of HHS (you know, BrainWorm Bobby!) has some magic herb that will help keep his brain in Republican Mush.......

tavernier

(14,485 posts)
29. Oh, I think we know very well who the real enemy is.
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:15 PM
Thursday

The more you talk, the more you give away your true motives. We the People who treasure our democracy prefer not to be lectured by you.

Aepps22

(394 posts)
30. He wasn't great before the stroke
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:24 PM
Thursday

He racially profiled and held an innocent Black man at gun point.

duckworth969

(1,395 posts)
32. Shut up Fetterman
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 08:27 PM
Thursday

Yer gonna get a primary challenge and be out on yer ass before long.

Worthless pinhead 😡

AverageOldGuy

(4,050 posts)
43. Two more years . . .
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:03 PM
Thursday

Fetterman was elected in 2022 for a 6-yr term - - - close to three years before he's out.

lostincalifornia

(5,466 posts)
44. What sad is that fetterman isn't upset that trump did not go through
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:04 PM
Thursday

Congress, or consult with our NATO allies, but went ahead unilaterally attacked them THREE different times in the middle of negotiations with Iran, then has a hissy fit because our allies didn’t support him, and even before the attacks was bashing NATO and our allies constantly.

WTF DID THIS JACKASSES THINK WOULD HAPPEN.



MW67

(201 posts)
45. Senator sweatpants somehow forgot to mention
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:05 PM
Thursday

The vast majority of the American People are also criticizing trump and his war, maybe he should tell them too how much he thinks they're helping Iran

Trueblue Texan

(4,554 posts)
48. My Republican sister in law was trying to impress me...
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:09 PM
Thursday

…by sharing that she had seen Fetterman on Faux News and was actually impressed that a Democrat could make so much sense. I flatly told her what I thought of Fetterman—and it wasn’t good. She was a bit defensive that she was only trying to tell me she liked at least one Democrat. I wish I’d thought to tell her if he actually embraced the values of the party, he wouldn’t be on interviewed on Faux News, but I also wanted to diffuse the conversation quickly so I could get her out of my house.

Uncle Joe

(65,346 posts)
50. I think that's better than Putin being excited because *rump's war of choice is helping fund his war of choice
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:14 PM
Thursday

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against Ukraine.

Thanks for the thread durablend

Still Waters

(137 posts)
111. Putin must be overjoyed to have a lickspittle Democratic senator
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:08 PM
Friday

to go along with his collection of Republican invertebrates.

Hey John, why don't you go spend July 4th in Russia like the other little gang of traitors did.

GiqueCee

(4,533 posts)
65. John...
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 10:08 PM
Thursday

... Sweetie, baby, cookie, honey... Shut the FUCK UP! And try dressing like a grown-up! You are a disgrace to everything that is good and decent and honorable. I don't live in Pennsylvania, so I couldn't vote, but I supported you, and now I'm ashamed that I did.
The world is in turmoil, and you're supporting the piece of maggot shit that is responsible for 99% of that turmoil. You will NEVER be forgiven, nor do you deserve to be.
If someone here is in a position to pass this along to him, please feel free to do so.

Retrograde

(11,439 posts)
66. Has he forgotten that he's supposed to be a Democrat?
Thu Apr 23, 2026, 10:08 PM
Thursday

Please tell me that there are some sane people planning to primary him!

sheshe2

(98,062 posts)
123. Two years away, however the answer is yes.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 04:45 PM
Friday

Conor Lamb.

Democrats are trying to figure out what to do about John Fetterman. One of them is stepping up

ENOLA, Pa. (AP) — Democratic Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania isn’t even up for reelection until 2028, but already a one-time primary foe, former U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb, is crisscrossing Pennsylvania and social media, looking and sounding like he’s preparing to challenge Fetterman again.

At town hall after town hall across Pennsylvania, Democrats and allied progressive groups aren’t hearing from Fetterman in person — or Republicans who control Washington, for that matter.

But they are hearing from Lamb, a living reminder of the Democrat they could have elected instead of Fetterman. The former congressman has emerged as an in-demand town hall headliner, sometimes as a stand-in for Fetterman — who just might bash Fetterman.

snip

Democrats are frustrated with Fetterman
Lamb’s reemergence comes at an in-between moment, roughly halfway through Fetterman’s six-year term, and is helping define the struggle facing Democrats in swing-state Pennsylvania.


https://apnews.com/article/john-fetterman-conor-lamb-democrats-pennsylvania-senate-6842b14b211abd249d8df6c8a6d54bad

johnnyfins

(3,902 posts)
76. Stroke changed him? Doubtful. I know it has
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:52 AM
Friday

happened to others, but his change? I think he was hit with the age old threat/reward offer. Prolly more threat than reward.

Baitball Blogger

(52,580 posts)
85. To be a Democrat is to understand that there are no absolutes in the world.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:57 AM
Friday

Instead, you use the same litmus tests based on concepts of human decency and fairness. What could be called a balanced morality test. The reality is that Trump is using this distraction from bringing attention to the fact he's a pedophile. The fact is that Iran was not about to attack before Trump started this mess. The fact is that we have a loon in the Oval Office and the Republican led Congress if failing to take their obligations seriously.

Autumn

(48,989 posts)
86. I don't think he's too old to resign and join the military. Flufferman should show the world that he supports
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 10:00 AM
Friday

the military more than anyone else.

gulliver

(14,047 posts)
102. He's right
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 01:24 PM
Friday

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There is nothing that outweighs the bigotry and evil of Iran's Islamic Republic regime. Any time they appear in a discussion of the lesser of two evils, the Islamic Republic is always the greater. They're murderous, theocratic, patriarchal, homophobic bigots. It's just a fact. They hang women.

It would mystify me that any liberal or progressive would believe they have reason to dispute that simple, obvious moral fact. Such a position is completely against our charter. Completely.

pwb

(12,776 posts)
104. Six years is a long time to elect someone
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 01:51 PM
Friday

who does not represent. A mean trick on people.

CivicGrief

(269 posts)
121. I never fully trusted the big doofus.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 04:11 PM
Friday

I was glad he beat Oz, but his about face doesn’t surprise me. I call him Fettermanchin.

Mysterian

(6,582 posts)
138. This asshole will be unemployed soon
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 11:40 AM
Saturday

and his new republican friends will not help him out. I see this shmuck on public assistance in the near future.

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