Convince me this wasn't another false flag.

[yellow dahlia]

[Hey Joe]

1. I just can't......

This has Trumps stink all over it.
The more I hear, the more I suspect it was staged.

[yellow dahlia]

4. Too convenient!

[graycampervan]

34. Kashyp

needs to boost his cred.

[yellow dahlia]

90. I thought it was odd that the (alleged) manifesto said the perp wanted to take down everyone but Kash.

[RainCaster]

2. Sorry, I can't

IMO, he did this to protect his feelings because they might say bad things about him.

[yellow dahlia]

3. Sure!

[johnnyfins]

5. lemme guess

Radical left antifa???

What a fucking joke.

[vapor2]

6. I can't either

[edbermac]

7. Another Epstein distraction?

Or another Iran distraction?

[angrychair]

29. Actually, I think

It's a "what can we do to improve my poll numbers" move or an excuse to declare martial law.

[sop]

8. Who can believe anything involving Trump?

[rhiannon55]

9. thDUMP is so full of shit

I think almost everything he’s involved in is a lie. He didn’t want to go to that dinner in the first place because of his fragile widdle fee fees, so he made sure to fuck it up for everyone there, and score some more bs sympathy publicity.

Man I despise him.

[ecstatic]

10. so this happens at trump's FIRST appearance at a WHCD as president

Sorry, I just don't buy it. In my opinion, it was just a ploy to stop the dinner, get sympathy and increase his poll numbers.

The thin skinned traitor never had any intention of standing in front of a room full of people who hate him and attempting to tell jokes. The comedy routine he does at his rallies is actually a serious speech in his mind.

[EdmondDantes_]

11. I can't because you didn't reason your way into the other conspiracy theories

Hard to reason you out of this conspiracy either.

[J_William_Ryan]

12. "Another Epstein distraction? Or another Iran distraction?"

Both – all of the above.

[yellow dahlia]

14. All of the above...and the sympathy factor.

[BlueKota]

23. Well a reporter was supposed to get an award

for her reporting on the lewd card from tsf to Epstein. Can't have people reminded of that.

[MustLoveBeagles]

13. I'm sceptical

The first attempt on his life was real. I'm not so sure on subsequent attempts.

[buzzycrumbhunger]

26. You mean the one in PA

… where the shooter was allowed on a roof and immediately killed once the reaction shots were taken, and then nothing more was said about him?

Sorry, that was fake as hell, too.

[MustLoveBeagles]

28. I'm willing to admit I could be wrong about that too.

Who knows what's real or fake with these people?

[Faux pas]

15. Yeah Sure Ya Betcha

Is that convincing enough for you

[yellow dahlia]

19. I knew someone would know.

[malaise]

75. Ha

😀

[Faux pas]

84. Lol

we be smarter than the noncritical thinkers out there huh?

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. Another?

I haven’t seen any evidence of any false flags, but then, I’m a member of the reality-based community.

[BannonsLiver]

85. No disrespect intended but I've been around here long enough to know that is simply not true.

[Johonny]

17. Trump lies about anything

So at this point there's no reason to believe or trust anything involving him. He is a reality TV star. Faking it is second nature.

[yellow dahlia]

22. Once a reality tv star...always a reality tv performer.

[H2O Man]

18. We may never know,

since Officer Jack Ruby killed the suspect.

Recommended.

[FHRRK1]

20. Watching MSNOW and gagging

Ken Dilanian, who I never trusted, claimed he saw a lady he recognized as a Code Pink member dressed in a ball gown. Ruhle ate the bullshit up.

So tired of this bullshit.

[LeftInTX]

27. I don't think Code Pink would get involved with shooting.

They prefer to scream and shout and disrupt. I doubt if they would make it through security though, since they're known.

[jrthin]

21. I can't.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

24. This latest attempt photo should be available on Piggy merch right now!

He loots and grifts off everything.

[PufPuf23]

25. Does a strongly typed admonition to not believe in conspiracies work?

Did not think so.

Our nation is a crumbling mess.

We will be rewarded with a replay of the WHCD to remind all that this is Trump World now.

[strongermessage]

30. Pure Theater.

Just like Butler.

[yellow dahlia]

33. Even though they have the guy - I still believe this was theater.

[D. Spaulding]

31. Reports are circulating that Patel and Hegseth

bravely rescued several bottles from tables before moving to safety.

[RB77]

79. Thank You

I needed a chuckle this morning.🤓

[IcyPeas]

32. Of all years to finally attend a WHCD... and then this happens. (wink, wink)

[LudwigPastorius]

35. A lot of people hate Trump & you can pretty much buy a gun anywhere.

Occam's Razor

Also, consider how much a recruited shooter would have to love that orange bastard to willingly face life imprisonment for him.

[orangecrush]

40. This.

[NBachers]

56. I've seen the video of him rushing past the checkpoint. They say he had multiple weapons & was a guest at the hotel.

I'll take what I see at face value until I have a valid reason not to.

[MervinFerd]

36. DO WE -REALLY- HAVE TO DO THIS?

STOP!

Leave the Alex Jones Bullshit to the MAGA nuts.

YOU provide evidence.

[Scrivener7]

76. You DON'T question every action of this administration? I don't think this was staged, but I don't think doubt is a bad

first response.

[yellow dahlia]

86. It is unfortunate that we have to question everything,

and can no longer take anything at face value coming from the government take over.

[Cheezoholic]

37. Championship President brought to you by the McMahons lol n/t

[Smokster]

47. lol

[Cha]

38. I want it to be "staged", but how

did they get that Teacher in on it from CA

[yellow dahlia]

45. A couple of possibilities come to mind.

He was promised something different than what happened.

Paid to do it and they will pardon?

[Cha]

51. Thanks.. Yeah, and how the hell

he slip by with a gun.

I saw a photo of him on the floor and hancuffed if that was even real?

[NBachers]

62. I'll play it as it lies until truth-based reasons come out to believe otherwise. I don't think the rushing video is fake

If the school teacher is the guy, then what contorted argument will explain how "they" got him to rush through the checkpoint with weapons?

[Cha]

65. Mahalo, NBachers.. I haven't

seen any vid yet. I was away traveling on the bus when it happened.

Right? Who will they blame for Lax security enough to let a guy with a gun get into the WHCD?

[NBachers]

68. Apparently the guy's not a dimwit. He's got serious academic records: Engineering degree from Caltech; Masters in

Computer Science from Cal State University; research fellowship at NASA. You don't get these credentials without a lot of ass-busting study and intelligence.

[Cha]

69. Wow.. so intelligent and brilliant

in his studies and Degrees.

But, comes to DC to shoot, Traitor.. so weird.

Is he alive?

[LeftInTX]

70. Any injuries are minor. He was staying at the hotel.

[Cha]

71. Thanks, LeftinTX...

Different, he had no injuries after "exchanging fire.."and so many weapons

snip***!

The man suspected of opening fire at officers during the White House Correspondents' Association dinner in Washington, D.C., on Saturday is a 31-year-old from Southern California, authorities said.

The suspect was identified as Cole Thomas Allen, of Torrance, a federal official familiar with the case told NBC

Allen was armed with a shotgun, handgun and multiple knives when he rushed a security checkpoint and ran toward the ballroom where the dinner was being held, said Jeff Carroll, interim police chief for the Metropolitan Police Department.

He exchanged gunfire with law enforcement and was tackled to the ground, Carroll said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooting-suspect-white-house-correspondents-dinner-cole-thomas-allen-rcna342146

[Chemical Bill]

72. That's an interesting CV.

Engineering and Tech Bro are two fields that tend conservative. Is this guy a Trumper like the last two?

[Doodley]

58. "Manchurian Candidate" A person--secretly controlled, brainwashed, or manipulated by an enemy power.

A "Manchurian Candidate" is a person—usually a politician—secretly controlled, brainwashed, or manipulated by an enemy power to subvert their own country's interests. Originating from Richard Condon's 1959 thriller, it signifies a "puppet" leader acting under foreign influence, often without realizing it.

Dictionary.com

[Attilatheblond]

91. Yes, but enough about Trump. What about the alleged would be assassin?

[appleannie1]

39. Sorry, can't help ya. Much too convenient to be believed.

[yellow dahlia]

43. Way to plug the need for the ballroom.

I don't believe in coincidence theories.

[pat_k]

41. What sucks is that even if it is, chances of exposure are zilch.

So anyone asserting it is a "conspiracy nut."

And since my first thought was, "timed too perfectly with all-time polling lows to be real," I guess I'm a conspiracy nut.

[yellow dahlia]

44. Way too convenient.

I don't believe in coincidence theories.

[sarisataka]

42. Pointless waste of effort

If a person believes a CT to be true they will dismiss any facts which show their belief to be false but will believe the theory without a shred of proof- the lack of proof become proof there is a coverup.

[Kaleva]

46. It'd be like trying to convince a Fox viewer that Trump isn't God's favorite son.

[Orrex]

83. Can you elaborate?

I'm always interested when the cheerleaders openly deride other DUers.

[IronLionZion]

48. If they find some vague nonsense engraved on the shell casings

then we'll know it's legit. Or if the perp is an undocumented Iranian.

[hamsterjill]

49. I cannot even if I tried.

Look, at some point, if this keeps happening, someone is not going to miss. That's the only way that I'm ever going to believe it's real.

The timing is always too just too convenient.

[yellow dahlia]

52. I don't believe in coincidence theories.

[Fil1957]

50. It's too early to come to any conclusions.

[SheltieLover]

53. Release the trumpstein files with perp names

[yellow dahlia]

54. They're gonna be safely secured in the new ballroom.

[RockRaven]

55. It is a heavy lift... But the largest single weight I can put on that scale is

the general gross incompetence of his admin/people.

[2naSalit]

57. Can't.

It's that simple.

[marble falls]

59. Won't even try. EPSTEIN.

[yellow dahlia]

61. And see - I told you I needed a ballroom.

[marble falls]

64. I think he needs a lobotomy.

[misanthrope]

66. I think nature is already giving him one

It is just going to take a while.

[marble falls]

81. Nature better step it up, dammit.

[bdamomma]

94. Why????

He doesn't have a brain!!!!

[marble falls]

95. He does, you just need a magnifying glass to see it. What he has none of is empathy, morals, ethics, .........

[thomski64]

60. There is just a pathetic lack of..

...quality assassins since J Edgar Hoover was in charge of assassinations...

[debsy]

63. Impossible (to convince you or be convinced myself otherwise)

[state of stupid]

67. Why, the thing is a liar first and foremost. You cannot take one word from his mouth

as truth in any form or fashion. I try to believe that when somebody dies the world loses a little bit.
With this asshole, when he dies the world actually gains.

[Celerity]

73. de rec, as the burden is on someone making a claim to prove the claim, not for others to disprove it

[Scrivener7]

74. Mary Trump's comment: "So weird Donald didn't stand up, ask for his shoes, defiantly raise his fist, and say

'Fight, fight, fight.'"

She's right. He didn't make hay in the moment over this. Also the profile of the shooter and the fact that he's still alive and didn't need to be silenced.

And, yellow dahlia, you KNOW I will never be convinced that the rally shooting wasn't a hoax. But this one looks like it passes the smell test.

After the shot they kept him covered and did the things the SS always does after an attempted shooting. Unlike Butler. There's lots of incompetence on display, but that's to be expected with this administration.

But I do think, "Sure, Jan" should always be our first response to Cankles.

[Liberal In Texas]

77. Then there's Bagdad Barbie oddly prescient:

Caroline Levett was interviewed by Fox before going into the dinner and she actually said there will be some shots fired tonight!

[Polybius]

88. If it was staged, they wouldn't tell her

For conspiracies to work, they have to keep it as minimal as possible. A press secretary isn't important enough to be in on it. Even if she were told, she wouldn't use those words.

[DUMember24]

78. Nope. Last time he was able to stand and raise his fist

yelling fight, fight, fight. This time after removing him from the table he fell out in the floor like a rag doll. It looked like he collapsed or fainted.

I don't doubt something may have been planned later in the event, to upstage or embarrass journalist, especially considering press secretary plainly joked "there will be shots fired tonight", but it may have been preempted by the real thing. He was clearly not his usual self at that press conference afterwards. More shaken.

[bucolic_frolic]

80. They've run out of patsies.

In addition they're not very believable anymore.

[Martin Eden]

82. Several reasons

This incident won't move the needle on his approval ratings.

Every actual conspiracy carries with it the risk of exposure. This one really had nothing to gain.

I think Trump was looking forward to delivering his speech to a captive audience he hates, telling the press corp to their faces they are disgraceful purveyors of "fake news" who hate America.

[fujiyamasan]

87. Nah, I won't bother

But I don’t have to convince you Trump is a coward and would never knowingly put himself in harm’s way.

Even if this were staged, plenty of things could go wrong. It’s easy to lose control in these sorts of situations. Very rarely do false flags and staged events go as planned.

Too much risk for too little payoff in my opinion.

[True Dough]

89. ...

Link to tweet

[William Gustafson]

92. I what I find odd with all these attempts on Don....

Is once they are caught or killed and convicted, we hear nothing about what actually happen... Nothing on the attempted assassin's background, nothing on Don's medical procedures from the injuries in which his ear healed in an amazing two weeks from a supposable bullet.... , nothing... This guy over the weekend, we will hear nothing about him that has any meaningful information...
Whether this was a staged incident or not, is beside the point... something happened and we will never know the truth from this administration... It's just the way it's being run right now. Don't expect any answers to your question... because we will never know.

[bdamomma]

93. Just

another DISTRACTION as usual. He's in a hole, He's a liar and a pedophile, and a war criminal.