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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe problem with every Democrat President agreed with Iran not having a nuclear weapon.
Is not the same thing as every President would have used a major conflict, on questionable evidence that the threat was imminent.
Or that they meant war at all. Could mean long negotiated agreements, sanctions, and multinational agreements and so forth. And of course, possibly very limited strikes. And not just sticks, but plenty of carrots.
IMO, it's a crap claim and we don't know what each President would actually do depending on individual circumstances.
Trump just said today, they would have a bomb in 2 weeks if we hadn't acted. I suspect a claim we'll never see evidence for.
He's already yapping again, so guess he's recovered from a potential meeting with the grim reaper. He'll be talking about the ballroom and arch in no time and other "important" things.
usonian
(26,233 posts)Using Democrat as an adjective is a maga slur.
IANTGP (I am not the grammar police)
CurtEastPoint
(20,076 posts)RoeVWade
(921 posts)nt*
lostincalifornia
(5,476 posts)Democratic Party.
You should really edit the OP to reflect Democratic president, not democrat president
We dont let MAGA or republicans define us.
RoeVWade
(921 posts)This is aside from the whole grammar argument.
lostincalifornia
(5,476 posts)is ironic, because their party has actually become the anti-democracy party.
I wont belabor the distinction, but I appreciate you listening to my point, and understanding that many here take its connotation when used the way they intentionally use it as offensive.
Thanks for understanding.
Celerity
(54,790 posts)means a governance philosophy based off centre to centre right classical liberalism, ie an emphasis on individual liberty (instead of collective orientations), limited government, deregulation, private property over public property preferences, free markets (laissez-faire), low (or at least lower) tax structures, privitisation of traditional government functions (often via public-private partnerships), free trade over fair trade, etc. It often specifically describes neoliberal stances and projections, but is certainly not limited to that.
It rarely, if ever, means left wing (perhaps at times, it may occasionally refer to a centrist, slightly lefitsh projection), does not very often refer to most forms of US-style modern progressiveness, and certainly never means what right wing (and far too many non RW Americans as well) think it means when they use it as an attempted slur, often (and so stupidly!) using it interchangeably it with socialism and even (madness) communism.
I almost never refer to myself as a liberal, not when discussing my UK, my Swedish, my EU, nor my American political stances, philosophies, voting patterns, and/or beliefs.
There are parts of classical liberalism I absolutely agree with (and those parts are ceretainly not its exclusive domain), but on balance, it is not a useful label for me when talking about American politics.
Initech
(109,049 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,013 posts)He does not care about the Iranian people or democracy.
Trump wants money, power, land, resources.
Cosmocat
(15,456 posts)and were POTUS and VP to the peaceful agreement that made sure it did not happen that was in place that the current POTUS blew up and opened this raging hot mess of a can of worms.
ThreeNoSeep
(317 posts)I respond to your post without reading anything except the title, because you are insulting us all, and nothing deserves comment until you fix it and apologize.
- Disgusted
a kennedy
(36,219 posts)🤬 🤬 🤬
JI7
(93,812 posts)ananda
(35,392 posts)instead of "Democratic."
It's NOT OK to use "Democrat" as an adjective.
ornotna
(11,535 posts)Its pretty simple. Go ahead, give it a try.
Serious question. Is "liberal' on this site considered offensive also because Republicans use it as offensive?
standingtall
(3,171 posts)The term liberal has been around for centuries even predating the United States itself and is not exclusive to progressives even some right leaning people can consider themselves liberals in some ways and anyways liberal is the actual word not a deliberate shortened form to use as a slur. Okay to say I'm a Democrat, but it is not proper to refer the Democratic party as the Democrat party that's a slur and on top of that it's bad English. Appropriating a term is not the same as mutilating it. No one goes around calling the republican party the republic party. Just admit you made a mistake edit your post and move on.
RoeVWade
(921 posts)If any group regularly refers to themselves as something and the word is not distorted, someone else can't make it a slur. And if they can, that's pretty sad state of affairs.
If Native Americans want to be called Native Americans, you can't slur Native Americans calling them Native Americans.
The only other rule I think is true, if you're OF a group you can disagree with the others in your group on whether you prefer one designation or another.
But I will obey the general consensus, whether I agree or not. Not going to censor my post. Sorry. Moderators can take whatever action is appropriate.
Justice matters.
(9,984 posts)murdering tens of thousands of civilians in what the Geneva Convention defines to be war crimes.
Same with the current administration in the USA as it relates to murdering schoolgirls and fishermen, even citizen protesting them as protesting them was protected by their First Amendment rights.
The war-criminal blood-thirsty dictator is unstable but he is requesting the nuclear codes after he tore up the international treaty with Iran because President Obama humiliated him in person with a birth-certificate joke at a WHCD (a joke that was well earned).
That treaty was the right thing to do.
Story short: Get out of the ME!