Here is the reason I think the Trump team staged PA:

[Coventina]

And go ahead and flame me after you've read my post.

My biggest sticking point (besides the miraculous ear, which was after the fact):

TRUMP IS A COWARD!

If he had truly come THAT CLOSE to death, he would have soiled his depends and quit the campaign.
There is no way that pathetic child came up shaking his fist, ready to "fight."

Yes, I am totally willing to believe someone else was shot and killed to make it "real."
These people have zero conscience. They feel they are above the law, and that non-wealthy people are non-persons, here to simply do what's best for them.

Plus the ear thing.

I won't bother with this latest "attempt" as many other DUers have pointed out how this simply does not pass any sort of smell test.

OK, flame away.

[mcar]

1. No flame here

Plus, what SS agent would allow their charge to stand back up in the face of an active shooter? And, why has there been no reporting about it? No doctor's reports, no LE investigation, nothing.

[LeftInTX]

3. Biden was president at the time! There were plenty of investigations.

We aren't entitled to Trump's medical records due to HIPAA laws. Trump's "doctor" wrote a stupid report. He obviously had an injury to his ear.

Additionally, the GOP blamed Biden for lax security at the event. The GOP blamed Biden for this! So while, we're blaming Trump, Trump had no control over Secret Service! It was Biden's SS. So are you willing to blame Biden for this??

[Ferrets are Cool]

6. Please share the obvious injury.

Cuz I never saw it. Nor do I see it now.

[LeftInTX]

7. It was a very small wound. Not much bigger than a zit. It was basically a cut.

https://www.wenigerplasticsurgery.com/plastic-surgeon-walks-us-through-trumps-ear-injury-one-year-after-assassination-attempt/

Can you show everyone a cut a week after it happens?

You can see a discolored bump on his ear.

A small wound on the scalp will bleed profusely. I was a nurse. We start IV's on babys' heads because of all the superficial veins on the scalp..

[MorbidButterflyTat]

13. I think he'd want the whole world to know about his life threatening injury!

That required a melodramatic maxi pad and left no scarring whatsoever.

Couldn't get the doctors to lie for him like Dr. Feelgood? Healthiest president ever!

[LeftInTX]

14. He had Ronny Jackson write up a strange report.

2 cm wide wound?? Give me a break! Yet, disgraced Dr Jackson said, "After a week it is healing and there was no need for stitches".

[FakeNoose]

2. You're right - nothing about that incident passed the smell test

[LeftInTX]

4. Who was president at the time and who was blamed for this?

Trump wasn't close to death. He had a small nick, near his ear. Your scalp is full of superificial veins which bleed profusely when nicked. He had a minor injury. He wasn't close to death at all. It's no worse than when I was pushed into a locker and my eyebrow lacerated.

They blamed Biden for this...

We look really stupid if we blame Trump, when the SS was under Biden's watch. Biden was blamed for this by the GOP believe or not. He was accused of purposely not providing enough agents for the event. And rumors were going around the Biden wanted Trump dead.


I'm only posting what I read. I'm not endorsing GOP talking points. It's just that Trump was not the president and was not in charge of Secret Service.

Secret Service director resigns in wake of Trump assassination attempt
U.S. Secret Service director Kimberly Cheatle resigned from her job, according to a statement released by the White House.

President Biden thanked Cheatle for her service, saying "she has selflessly dedicated and risked her life to protect our nation throughout her career in the United States Secret Service."

Biden cited the work of an independent review commission that was launched this weekend to investigate the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump in Butler, Pa., on July 13.
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/23/g-s1-12854/nancy-mace-vote-impeach-secret-service-director

[sarisataka]

5. How do you reconcile Trump's cowardice

with him agreeing to allow someone to shoot near him?

[moniss]

8. I question to a degree whether he is ever totally in control or told what is

going down or how it's going down. Maybe deep control by Putin people.

[sarisataka]

10. If he is not in control,

that negates the speculation he would drop out of the campaign. He would not be allowed

[Fla_Democrat]

11. Schrdinger's Trump

Simultaneously the worlds biggest coward, and a nerves of steel individual that will stand while someone is shooting at him from 100+ yards away with a .223 from a 16 inch upper with an unmagnified red dot optic.

[lame54]

19. It's the Trump dichotomy...

He's stupid
But smart enough to get away with everything
He's lazy
But the chaos comes at us at a break-neck pace
He's grossly unhealthy
But absorbs more stress than one would think possible - and lives
He's an OBVIOUS liar
But WAY too many people still believe him
He spends all day watching TV and/or golfing
But he's always on my damn tv
He's a germaphobe
But he raw dogs porn stars

I know I have more examples but can't recall them right now - so mu

ch garbage to retain

[Sympthsical]

9. He's a narcissist

And one of the core features of a narcissist is rage when challenged and a need to reassert control.

He was afraid when his ear was hit. It was all over his face. And then his pathology recovered. He was pissed and trying to retake control over his image (the obsession with the shoes).

Don't let the cartoon image of him built up for narrative purposes obscure what he is - a man who lands somewhere on the narcissist-sociopath spectrum who has a disregard for everyone but himself, a pathological need to have his ego stroked, and outbursts of rage when anyone dares push back against him.

Hell, just read the tweets since he started the Iran war. It's all right there.

This idea that he's always afraid and about to soil his depends is meant to make people feel better. He's a different sort of creature. He doesn't run when cornered. He acts out. And it's that penchant for true batshittery when threatened that leads to so much of the damage he causes.

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. So, he's brave enough to stand in the line of fire

But not brave enough to continue his campaign after being wounded?

You see, a real man died that day from bullet wounds, so the shooter had live ammo that could just have easily been aimed at Trump. (Unless you believe the bystander was a crisis actor now enjoying a life of luxury in the witness protection program)

But NOOOOO, he was a suicidal “Patriot” willing to kill an innocent bystander and then be killed by the SS, while Top Hollywood special effects technicians faked Trump’s ear wound.

And yet, the leakingest campaign/administration has breathed not a word of this foolproof plan involving at least dozens of people (at least as your description implies), including Mister Loose Lips himself.

Do any of these AA deniers ever think through all the moving parts required to make their Kooky CT Nonsense work?

J. F. C.

[Orrex]

15. Great. Now I can set my watch. Thanks.

[Orrex]

16. Nothing about Trump's behavior during or after the event is consistent with reality

Raising his head above his Secret Service detail to give the shooter a better target?

Stopping to pose for a triumphant campaign poster with conveniently positioned photographers?

A brave rallying cry of "Fight! Fight! Fight!" from a lifelong coward?

Never mentioning his alleged brush with death after the first week?

By which time the ear of a decrepit, obese, sedentary 78 year old had fully healed?

Not to mention Trump's established willingness to kill innocents or to allow innocents to die for his own advancement?

[Permanut]

17. No flaming here..

Seems that some posters are convinced that any consideration of any conspiracy theory makes one a "CT loon".

[hamsterjill]

18. Flameless recommendation

I don't know what happened during any of these assassination attempts, but I've doubted every single one of them. There's just no logic to his reaction, his ear, the planning, the lack of planning, etc. He's most definitely a full chick shit coward and would never in a million years have stood up there with his fist raised if he thought he was actually in danger.

I'm not even sure that I believe someone was shot and killed. Could that have been staged, too? i mean, do we ever hear anything about the person's family? Wouldn't they be suing someone?

I doubt it was a real bullet that whizzed past. I don't know.

Yes, I probably sound like a lunatic to many DU'ers who are so desperate to keep real. The problem with keeping it real is that we don't live in a normal reality any more. We have a reality television mogul in charge and there is no telling what in the hell he's capable of pulling off, and he doesn't have the moral compass AT ALL that would keep him from doing anything regardless of how preposterous.

So there! Who the hell knows what has really happened! But we all, or at least MOST of us, suspect that something has happened other than what we are being force fed and told to believe.

[calimary]

20. No flaming here, my friend.

You make some good points.

And by now, SO MANY MORE of us have discovered just how big a liar, cheat, and manipulator he is. It’s slow but sure progress, and it’s OUR side that’s building.

I believe WE ALL need to be up, wide awake, and on our toes in the weeks and months ahead. We’ve got a BIG primary to win, in November.

[ShazzieB]

21. I don't know what to think about this.

I could honestly see it either way (staged or not). The only thing I can say for sure is that I wish it had never happened. All it did was give his fans an excuse to call him a hero and exalt that "God saved him so he could be our president again!" *GAG*

Not to mention, a man in the audience died for nothing. (I know he was MAGA, but the last I heard, stupidity was not a capital offense.)

[Kaleva]

22. Biden Administration concluded it wasn't staged

[summer_in_TX]

23. I have many questions about the Butler, PA event too.

There are many anomalies that raise questions.

This video raises more questions. I ran across it last summer and haven't been able to get it out of my mind, so Idownloaded it from a post on Bluesky and saved it to my Drive, to make sure it wasn't behind a paywall. The person who shared it thinks she got it from Instagram.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dtcz-T2BPeN_lQ9wCbU3ChM1a2sH04x7/view?usp=sharing

This is from Butler, PA immediately after the shooting, taken from a different angle focusing more on action on the ground. Trump's aides move photographers to advantageous positions. Trump and the Secret Service are first down behind the podium and then you can make out that Trump and the SS are getting up, but at that size details are difficult to determine. You can see the edge of an American flag slowly appear from above as if it is being lowered from the crane into place.

I spent some time yesterday trying to find out if the video has been verified or proven false from a reliable source. It's not the type of video Bellingcat analyzes and I didn't get much further than that. So authentication of the video still needs to be done.